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Indymedia is overtaken by racists and Bush-Blair propagadndists

Justthought | 24.08.2006 14:42 | Analysis | Anti-racism | Indymedia | World

This is seen daily.

Every time there is a post with a Muslim or Arabic named contributor, within seconds almost there appears a most various hateful retort.

Irrespective of what the topic of the contribution is. Irrespective of how new and how relevant the given original post is, the anti-Muslim racist post has a go at the 'Muslim' contributor regardless.

Even if what that 'Muslim' contributor was saying was the most necessary sensible and universally truthful comment that indymedia was there to provide the space for

Why is it that of all the comparable web outlets, indymedia UK is so full of racist and especially brimming with contributors ready to pounce against anyone they count as a Muslim?

Add to that the almost predictable instant antagonism to any Muslim named contributor.

This evidence is undeniable and it must serve to warn us all about just who is writing the agenda for the annihilation of 'civilisation as we know it'.

All the hostile contributors are almost always making remarks against anyone they consider a Muslim.

Given that these publications are taking place at a timer in the West when there is also non stop posts and events going on allegedly against the Bush Blair Nato schemes against various targets states and nations in the Middle East, one has got to owner just where these hostile contributions are coming from.

Almost like clockwork, any contribution that is posted by a Muslim or by anyone that appears to be imperial and no wantonly anti Muslim, is treated as if they lack in something vital.

Hatred therefore has become a prerequisite, a prime banner

And these hateful contributions are not even coming from any instantly traceable source within the stat of Blair or of Bush. These are posts that are apparently coming from allegedly ordinary people.

Which creates a serious logical problem: if there are so many more people with such anti-Muslim hatred in society then it must follow that Blair and Bush are on that level representing those apparent majorities in their crusading attacks on Muslim destinations.

So what does that say about the relevance of the various stop the war factions?

Where do they go when these hateful and very racist post are displayed?

Do those ‘stop the war’ factions only respond or come on when ‘their’ groups are referred to in any way whether in a positive or in a negative way?

And the rest of the time, the ‘rows’ can be ignored?

How influential are the unchallenged words and phrases of raciest venom on the minds of the less educated, the less informed and the less enlightened?

How many people take as read whatever appears in the Daily Mail, the SUN and on the BBC?

How are we going to get out of the cycle of hatred that is being made even worse by those who control the Indymedia UK?

Why do they allow the racist posts to appear?

Or are those involved in ‘editing’ the UK indymedia party to these racists posts which they aim at targeted contributors?

Do they think that there is no longer any need to bother about fairness let alone be worked up [!] about the torrents of anti-Muslim posts that appear whenever a Muslim-named contrition is posted?

Justthought

Additions

Please report abusive posts

24.08.2006 18:22

Sorry if abusive comments are not being delt with -- there are only a few people doing regular admin on the site and not all comments are read by admins -- there is no intention to leave hate rants up.

Please report abuse to this list:

 http://lists.indymedia.org/imc-uk-features

Or to a local collective.

Insidejob the email about the hiding of your article is here:

 http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/mmid/imc-uk-features/2006-0812-cg

If you would like to discuss this please use the email list.

imc'er


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Banned posts

24.08.2006 16:06

And I post an analysis of what could be happening in the Middle East ie. either a Balkanisation of the region or a regional war that could go global followed by a global power-grab by international bankers. It was substantiated by a reasonable amount of sources. Up pops an administrator from Urban75 website saying it was sub-nazi, anti-semitic and 'conspiraloon'. It was those magic words 'anti-semitic' and off the post went in a minute. No one even bothered to argued why the post was anti-semitic.

insidejob


prince charles

24.08.2006 17:23

is it true prince charles is a muslim convert?

bad george


this tendency extends further

24.08.2006 20:16

In addition to the OP's comment about racism - there is also the tendency for any criticism or calling into doubt the official story around the "war" on terror to quickly become an item for the paranoid puppy brigade to trot out that stoopid phrase "conspiraloon" and to kill any serious debate. There is more than enough evidence for people to begin to question the rationale behind this so-called war on terror, and yet with a few carefully placed comments about being a "conspiraloon" all discussion is stopped. Friggin' plants to quell analysis and stop the spread of ideas and doubts about the official story.

dr jeckyl doesn't hyde


Probably comments from israel

24.08.2006 22:15

it's well known that the israeli governement has such a well funded global propaganda machine that it can afford to pay armies of its students to continuously monitor and subvert all sites that dare to criticise their terrorist regime in any way. Don't take such rantings to heart.

sid


A reply

25.08.2006 06:38

If you take Indymedia UK at face value, you are a fool. Nothing that happens on Blair's own turf is going to be innocent, if it can be easily subverted (and the cost of subverting an operation like Indymedia is near zero, and the effort trivial).

The anti-muslim racism that appears here is anything BUT an accident. Actually, crude so-called 'anti-jewish' comment is also used to sabotage anti-war articles as a very standard, and old method. The 'anti-jewish' rant is used as an 'excuse' by Indymedia moderators to apply a 'Stalin' style history wipe to the reasonable comments of others (as happened during the discussion about the Israeli atrocity on the beach in Gaza).

Do you really think that the recent holocaust that Israel and Blair carried out in Lebanon could have gone ahead with such success if there existed any true 'joined-up' opposition against such depraved crimes?

Of course, at this site, some do comment against the racists (many of whom are agents directly in Blair's employ). However, understand that for the most part these 'racists' are engaged in 'trolling', an act of disruption that magnifies if people engage in discussion directly with them. Trolls are best ignored.

Your statement that Blair merely reflects opinion makes me extremely suspicious of the true reason behind your post. Would you suggest that Hitler merely reflected natural German racism? I think not.

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How many people take as read whatever appears in the Daily Mail, the SUN and on the BBC?
UNQUOTE

I do not wish to be rude, but on your suggestion that Blair and Bush FOLLOW rather than LEAD, I can say with certainty that YOU certainly "take as read" whatever appears in these rags, even if you don't realise it.

QUOTE
And these hateful contributions are not even coming from any instantly traceable source within the stat of Blair or of Bush. These are posts that are apparently coming from allegedly ordinary people.
UNQUOTE

What logic do you use to claim this. You state the tactic of abuse works powerfully against people such as yourself. If this is true, why on Earth do you think this proves that the State is not involved. It is their JOB to be effective, whatever that takes. It may amaze you, but LYING is the cheapest of all political methods. Misrepresentation is just another form of lie.

The real problem is exampled by the comment from "imc'er" above. Such people are tasked to exterminate any articles or comments that discuss the true significance of events like war in Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Their job is to tell you, for example, that it is entirely random and insignificant that Israel is able to carry out widespread crimes against humanity in Lebanon and Gaza while enjoying the full support of the governments of the UK, Germany, France, Poland, Netherlands, Australia, Canada, US etc. Has NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER to those that control the mass media of the West. Has NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER to those that control massive chunks of the world's finance. Has NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER to the massively disproportionate influence that one minority has in law, PR (and other 'mind control' businesses), and politics within the aforementioned nations. Indeed, those parents that proudly praised their kids as they wrote messages of hate on the bombs destined to murder the children of Lebanon, and those that censor Indymedia UK would both agree that THIS is the only type of 'racist' comment that should be automatically removed from this site.

If you had someone on your street that raped and murdered on a regular basis, in full public knowledge, but with no hastle from the police, you would know that friends of that monster were in control of the so-called police. This isn't 'conspiraloon' thinking but straightforward common sense. Those that belong to the same 'tribe' that 'created' Israel have worked long and hard to learn from the successes and failures of the last 'master-race' that threatened the Earth, namely the nazis. This 'tribe' has influence and power today that Hitler could never have even dreamt of. It can proudly boast that murder of muslim children is simply the destruction of 'sub-humans' assured of having moronic non-tribe servants from the 'right' AND the 'left' (see the recent sickening letter from Hollywood scumbags praising Israeli mass murder as an example) rally to its defense.

No one forces Humans to adopt evil ideologies. Thoughts are NOT part of people's genes. Therefore, criminals are self-defining, through a clear and deliberate act of will. Israel is a criminal state, and its supporters and apologists therefore require judgement and punishment as quickly as possible. They know this far better than I, so their every thought is intended to help prevent justice EVER being applied to themselves. Meantime they ramp up the racist hate against the muslims. Why? Well because their ideology requires them to (a 'master-race' always needs to be stomping on 'lesser' mortals), but just as importantly because this is one minority that doesn't intend the muslims to 'steal' their power simply because there are far more of them.

The engine of racist hate against the muslims is formed by the supporters of Israel (remember, Spielberg's tag line for his 'War of the Worlds' remake was "they are already here" because the aliens were actually a metaphor for muslims in the US- hence the massive use of '911' imagery throughout the film). Others, like Blair, use this hate to their own advantage, and thus encourage it to grow within other groups.

Anyway, try to find ways of dealing with the 'hate' because for the foreseeable future it will continue to get worse, and we are a long way from being ready to fight back with any probability of victory.

twilight


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