Australia: Here we go again more Howard gov't lies
Johnny B Good | 05.01.2007 21:17 | Analysis | Anti-militarism | Repression | World
DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN? IF NOT WHY NOT! WAKE UP AUSTRALIA GET THE MESSAGE OUT IT IS TIME TO TAKE JOHN HOWARD OUT OF PUBLIC OFFICE AS A FRAUD! BEFORE HE TOTALLY DESTROYES THE FABRIC OF OUR SOCIETY.
PROPAGANDA MONSTER
LIMITED NEWS
I'M FIGHTING FOR WHITEY!
STOP BUSH
WAR KIDS
I HAVE PUT TOGETHER MORE ROCKET LAUNCHER STORIES THAN YOU CAN POKE A STICK AT SO WHY ARE THE MESS MEDIA PLAYING THE SAME STUPID TUNE? READ THE LIES AND THEN READ THE LINKS!
IT JUST CANNOT BE AND DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ACCUSE A SCAPEGOAT OF THESE PLANS THAT ONLY GIVE HITLER HOWARD MORE WAR MARBLES! WHY AM I WRITING THIS IN CAPS? BECAUSE I'M SICK OF WASTING MY TIME. BUT I AM COMPELLED TO BELIEVE ONLY THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP ME EVERYONE!
REMEMBER EVERY LINK HAS A LINK THEY CAN'T ESCAPE! SO IF YOU HAVE THE TIME MESS MEDIA TAKE THE TIME AND READ ON! THEN GET IT RIGHT FOR ALL OF HUMANITY! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
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Rocket launcher suspect linked to terrorism group?
A man charged with supplying stolen Army rocket launchers is suspected of having connections with a group plotting to blow up the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Lucas Heights nuclear reactor.
A joint police and ASIO operation picked up Sydney man Abdul Rahman in the Sydney suburb of Leumeah early this morning.
Police allege the 28-year-old received seven anti-armour rocket launchers stolen from the Australian Defence Force and passed two on to one man and five to another.
The person who received five is facing terrorism charges in an unrelated matter.
That person was one of a group of 15 people arrested and charged after raids on homes in Sydney and Melbourne in November.
Rahman has been charged with 17 offences, including dishonestly, receiving stolen property and supplying a prohibited weapon without authorisation.
Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty says he has evidence of plans to use the weapons on a building in Sydney.
"There was a potential target that had been identified by the individual and the group that the individual had been operating with," he said.
New South Wales Assistant Commissioner Nick Kaldas says police have so far recovered just one of the launchers.
"It's fair to say we're concerned about those weapons being in the community," he said.
The use of hand-held rocket launchers by the military has been suspended pending the outcome of an inquiry into how they were stolen.
Rahman will remain in custody before a court hearing next week.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200701/s1822271.htm
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Bikies building bazookas
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
Bikies building bazookas
HELL'S Angels bikies are involved in the production of rocket launchers, a bikie source says.
The source claims an associate of the Hell's Angels bikie gang in Darwin has produced rocket launchers in the rural area.
It is claimed the associate obtained a copy of The Terrorists Handbook down-loaded from the internet.
The 150-page dossier details how bombs and explosives can be made, and includes instructions on what materials are required to build a rocket launcher.
A bikie source alleges the manufacturer of the weapons is making rocket launchers in an industrial shed complete with a machine press. NT Police are aware of the allegations but have declined to comment on whether officers have interviewed the associate alleged to be involved.
Police media manager Sue Bradley would only say that, ``it is Special Operations Section policy not to comment on operational issues such as this pertaining to any high-risk crime group or their associates''.
It is not the first time that the Hell's Angels in Darwin have been linked to the manufacturing, buying or selling of rocket launchers.
In May 2003, a rocket launcher was believed to have been among a cache of weapons seized during raids on residences and premises of the Hell's Angels motorcycle gang.
Also understood to have been seized during those raids were police-issue pistols and a substantial quantity of amphetamines.
Newshawk: http://www.napnt.org
Pubdate: Wed, 31 May 2006
Source: Northern Territory News (Australia)
Copyright: 2006 Northern Territory News
Contact: ntnmail (at) ntn.newsltd.com.au
Website: http://www.ntnews.com.au/
posted by NAP web team
http://www.napnt.org/blogs/ntdrugnews/2006_05_01_ntdrugnewsblogarchive.h
http://spanishredneck.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_spanishredneck_archive.htm
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A rocket launcher similar to the one that a man bought from a tip in central Queensland for $2
The type of single-use "fire-and-forget" rocket launcher found in a central Queensland town tip and handed into police this morning is used by two overseas defence forces that recently underwent live-fire exercises at a nearby army training area.
The Department of Defence's acting director-general of communications, Colonel Pup Elliott, told smh.com.au the weapon was not Australian Defence Force ordnance.
"I can tell you from the photo straight away it's not one of ours, it's not one of the weapons we use in our inventory."
It is believed the weapon came from the Shoalwater military training area, a short distance from the town of Yeppoon, near Rockhampton, where the tip was located.
Colonel Elliott said the weapon could be traced to an overseas force that recently used the training area.
"We've certainly had soldiers from Singapore, we've had US Marines and [US Army] and I think they all have it in their inventory.
"So we're just going to have ask who had it, and how they accounted for it."
The Matador anti-armour rocket launcher is a 90mm single-use weapon designed by the Singaporean army.
The launcher - already fired and therefore not an immediate threat - was found at a recycling centre attached to a tip at Yeppoon by local man James Maloney.
He told local paper The Morning Bulletin he had paid $2 for it.
"I work in the local theatre restaurant and wanted to use it as a stage prop," he said.
However, when he read a story in a local paper about the army misplacing rocket launchers - based on a story in the Herald - he decided to hand the weapon over.
He gave the weapon to a reporter from The Morning Bulletin who, after contacting the Department of Defence and being told the weapon was not dangerous, kept it for a number of days to photograph it and write a story.
This led to a period of confusion when local police, contacted by Defence, were unable to establish the whereabouts of the weapon.
"The police rang me earlier this evening and they told me they didn't know where it was so I redirected them back to the reporter," Mr Maloney said earlier this week, adding that the last time he saw the weapon was in the back seat of the reporter's car.
The reporter handed it into Yeppoon police station this morning at 8.30am local time (9.30am AEST).
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/2-rocket-launcher-found/2007/01/03/1
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Army chief tight-lipped on rocket launcher theft reports
Chief of the Army, Lieutenant General Peter Leahy, says the military is cooperating with an investigation about the possible theft of high-powered weapons.
Earlier this year, a Sydney court heard a rocket launcher was found in the city's south-west before a fatal double shooting three years ago.
It was not used in the attack.
Last month New South Wales police said it was the subject of an ongoing investigation.
Now there are claims other rocket launchers may have been stolen from the Army.
Lieutenant General Leahy says the army is cooperating with authorities.
"This is an ongoing security investigation in which the state, federal and Army authorities are involved," he said.
"I'm really not at liberty to talk very much about it.
"I'm sure that you understand ongoing operational and security matters, there's a great potential to compromise a whole range of things, so I would ask that you understand that that's really all I am able to say."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200612/s1812449.htm
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Someone deserves a rocket
Saturday, December 23, 2006
Gotcha with Gary Hughes
If the Australian Defence Force’s role is to protect us, who is protecting us from the ADF? The army has taken the extraordinary step of calling in Australia’s top spy agency ASIO to help it count its anti-tank rockets amid fears that up to nine of them might have gone missing and fallen into the hands of criminals. The move follows the discovery in Victoria that a sergeant allegedly stole enough weapons, including machine guns, from a military base to equip a small army.
The announcement of ASIO’s oversight of an audit of shoulder-fired LAW anti-tank rockets was made late yesterday in an announcement by Defence Minister Brendan Nelson. In the meantime the issue of any more of the one-use rockets has been halted.
The audit of the rockets will be followed by a security review of all ADF weapons, munitions and explosive, which will also be led by ASIO.
Last week it was revealed that NSW Police had paid $50,000 for one of the 66mm light anti-armour rockets, which had been obtained by a ethnic Sydney crime faction. The hunt for a further eight rocket launchers is underway. The rockets are believed to have been stolen from the ADF, although this has yet to be confirmed.
These rockets carry the label “light”, but don’t be fooled. The rockets, which can be easily fired by one person, can penetrate more than 300mm of armour and can be used as a “bunker buster” against enemy fortifications. Against a civilian target, such as an ordinary vehicle or a house, they would be devastating. They have a maximum range of 350 metres and can be fired at moving targets.
Earlier this week details of the weapons allegedly stolen along with truck loads of other equipment from the Puckapunyal army camp in Victoria were revealed. They included:
• 22 high-explosive grenades
• 7.62mm M60 machinegun
• F1 sub-machinegun
• 5.56mm M16 semi-automatic assault rifle
• A survival rifle
• A pistol
• Up to 500,000 rounds of ammunition.
In yesterday’s statement, Brendan Nelson said an audit of current weapons at Puckapunyal had been completed and all stocks were accounted for. Similarly, the current holdings of the LAW rockets had been accounted for, apart from those being used by troops on deployment. Historical records of weapons were now being checked.
But clearly, if someone can walk out of Puckapunyal with machine guns and automatic rifles without being detected, those records may not be all that accurate. And how many other military weapons might have been previously stolen from military bases and trafficked to criminals?
“The Government takes this issue very seriously,” Brendan Nelson said. About time.
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/garyhughes/index.php/theaustralia
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Sydney (dpa) - Australian police believe rogue elements in the Army may be behind the black market sale of rocket launchers after only one of nine anti-tank weapons suspected to have been stolen was recovered, the Sydney Morning Herald reported Friday.
The theft of military weapons was uncommon, according to Australia Defence Association executive director Neil James, but security systems were not foolproof.
He said the only previous case of a rocket launcher being used by civilians in Australia was an incident between two criminal gangs in the 1980s. That rocket launcher had been smuggled in from abroad.
The military have not confirmed that it has lost weaponry.
"Large weapon thefts from the military is actually reasonably rare, but every so often the odd weapon does go missing, generally it's an internal job," James said. "Any system is not completely foolproof, especially to an inside job, that's why most bank fraud is done by bank employees."
The recovered rocket launcher had its serial number filed off, making it impossible for police to determine its provenance. It was recovered after police paid a bounty to an underworld figure, the paper claimed.
http://social.moldova.org/stiri/eng/21641/
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Arrest made over rocket launcher theft
Police in New South Wales say a man has been arrested over his alleged involvement in the theft of seven rocket launchers.
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Another scapegoat or two bite the dust!
John Howard the rocket launcher and his AFP now lay the blame of lost rocket launchers on a scapegoat in custody. Typical propaganda to make himself look good. Again! But now there is a specific target and I strongly suggest it's John Howard's war on terror and how much of a boost he can give to his fear factor so he can continue war mongering!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57793
Community probe reports of AFP training with CIA and M15
"We can determine that there have been other reports about the illegal and degrading wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the complicity of the AFP in the Bali bombing in 2002, and now the fire sale of Australian military hardware, including a rocket launcher found on a tip. After the rocket launchers that went missing from the Australia War Force just recently and that's part of the inquiries that we are making," They said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57781
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U.S. Army Subpoenas Independent Journalist to Testify
Ring a bell? Jack Thomas and Four Corners!
Read on or better still watch the program if you can.
Australian court orders re-trial on terrorist charges
His re-trial is a warning that the political and media establishment will stop at nothing to try to secure convictions to bolster the “war on terror” and overturn essential protections against official persecution, such as the rules against torture and double jeopardy.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57711
Political scapegoat to face retrial for a Walkley award
But the facts about his torture seems a little difficult for John Howard's ABC to spit out in today's news! And John Howard's motives should be very clear to everyone. Scapegoats have become the latest fascism.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57627
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57759
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Australia Complicit in CIA Bali Bombings: Community
[There is] no doubt whatsoever of the CIA's involvement and the complicity of the Australian goverment and that view is shared by us and by our counterparts in Indonesia.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57645
Bring David Hicks home - thousands of people rally across Australia
"John Howard, he doesn't want (to) bring David Hicks here for so many reasons, because he's a good witness against the crime of the government overseas."
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57570
Billboards going up, lawsuit filed, David Hicks home by Christmas?
Finally, this Saturday December 9, you can join thousands of Australians nationwide to mark the fifth year of David's detention without trial. Peaceful protests are being coordinated by a coalition of action and human rights groups including Fair Go for David and Amnesty International, with key speakers at each event including Major Mori in Melbourne. Order your own Bring David Hicks Home sign and check out the details of a gathering near you.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57564
NATIONAL DAY OF ACTION-FIVE YEARS TOO LONG-BRING DAVID HOME NOW!
- Close Guantanamo prison camp - Stop the war on civil liberties
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57539
Hicks: Major Mori speaks
According to Mori, ?g All it would take is for the attorney-general to make a telephone call [to Washington] and David would be coming home?h. But the Australian government has a political problem, he said, because for five years they?fve labeled Hicks an ?gaccused terrorist?h or a ?gterror suspect?h. They?fve admitted that if Hicks was brought home they could not charge him with anything because he has not committed a crime under Australian law. Mori believes the Howard government is still hoping the US will do the dirty work for them.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57478
No compo for malice, rendition, false imprisonment, assault - including torture - government secrets?
The court was also told that the Government will be mounting two confidential defences in the case - one of which will only be released to Mr Habib's lawyers.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57460
hoWARd's connections with the abc in Australia and abroad
[So you have to have a story behind it to make up for the distance between false flag opps in Indonesia all the way across to Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap to cover without a terror tale to hook into? What about the Icon of the Terror movement G W Bush? At least we know he's guilty! Osama bin Laden hasn't been found guilty of anything, yo!] And Indonesia has been blowing up bombs in their own country just to move people out of villages for years!]
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57430
'Australia: Anti-Muslim “terror plot” unravels'
Without waiting for any evidence, Prime Minister John Howard and his ministers immediately claimed that the arrests provided disturbing new proof that “home-grown” terrorists were preparing attacks in Australia. Howard told parliament: “If they have broken the law or been involved in terrorism, well they deserve everything they get.”
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57319
Draconian scapegoat orders 'stacked against' Thomas
A constitutional law expert says the system is stacked against Melbourne man Jack Thomas.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21072
'Control order' should frighten all Australians
Greens Senator Kerry Nettle today condemned the issuing of a 'control order' to Jack Thomas by the Attorney General Phillip Ruddock and renewed The Greens call for this arbitrary power to be removed from law.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120775_comment.php#120787
Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988
Jack Thomas served with control order
‘Anyway who cares about civil liberties should be outraged at this decision. We hear about authoritarian governments putting people under house arrest in Burma – well, now it’s happening right here in Australia!’
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120670.php
Professor George Williams says
University of New South Wales law expert Professor George Williams says the matter could be tested in the High Court.
He says the case will reduce people's confidence in the justice system.
"The fact that a jury is not involved, the fact that the criteria are loaded against the person because the standard of proof is significantly lower than it would normally be, mean that even though a judge, I have no doubt, will attempt to give a fair hearing and do his or her best - doesn't matter," he said.
"You've got the system stacked against someone.
"This is not a normal process and indeed that's exactly the problem with it."
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120828_comment.php
If they were any tougher they'd Rust!
Tougher terrorism laws predicted after Thomas ruling?
A top defence lawyer says he is concerned the Government might push for tougher anti-terrorism laws as a result of the quashing of convictions against Melbourne man Joseph Terrence Thomas.
abc 18 Aug 06
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200608/s1718915.htm
Judge quashes Thomas conviction
This is fantastic news. Congratulations to Jack and the Thomas family! It is a vindication of everyone prepared to fight for basic rights -- and makes the bus trip all the more important. We're in the process of putting a press release out. Good news for a change!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/19874/index.php
Joseph Thomas conviction immoral
AN EMBARRASSING conviction based on TORTURE IMMORAL
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117441.php
DPP should lose the plot!
Now why would the DPP do that? Based on some notion I suppose, that john hoWARd (the hangman) wants to use Thomas's butt again, to raise the fear stakes in the introduction of the new Anti-Liberty-Dissent Directives!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9617
David Hicks’s release from Guantánamo
The ongoing imprisonment of Hicks, which is designed to psychologically destroy him, has further underscored the contempt for legal precedent and democratic rights that characterises the entire Australian political establishment.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57588
No compo for malice, rendition, false imprisonment, assault - including torture - government secrets?
The court was also told that the Government will be mounting two confidential defences in the case - one of which will only be released to Mr Habib's lawyers.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57460
Andrew Sullivan and the Tortued Truth
Mr. Habib said he was taken to a room with hooks on the wall and a barrel, set sideways like a roller, on the floor. His arms were stretched out, he said, and each wrist was handcuffed and fastened to a hook on the wall. By his description, the only way not to be left hanging was to stand on the barrel; an electric wire ran through it. Mr. Habib said he believed the interrogators in that room were Pakistani.
Mr. Habib said that when he refused to confess to being part of a 1995 terror plot, one man turned on the current. He lifted his feet to avoid the shock, he recalled, and he was suspended from the wall.
"I lost everything," he said.
http://bodyandsoul.typepad.com/blog/2005/02/theres_been_a_s.html
The American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay must be closed. Let the people go free. Pardon them. Show them Christian charity. Stop this evil.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20129
International Protest Day calls for the end of Guantánamo Bay
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17099
hoWARd's connections with the abc in Australia and abroad
[So you have to have a story behind it to make up for the distance between false flag opps in Indonesia all the way across to Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap to cover without a terror tale to hook into? What about the Icon of the Terror movement G W Bush? At least we know he's guilty! Osama bin Laden hasn't been found guilty of anything, yo!] And Indonesia has been blowing up bombs in their own country just to move people out of villages for years!]
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57430
Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489
Anti-terrorism laws target non-suspects: expert
The forum will look at Australia's legal response to terrorism but would be minded to think of it as scapegoating for john hoWARd's illegal and degrading war of aggression on Iraq that's errorism on purpose. In short, the 'fear' of the politics of a war criminal!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57379
Australia: Anti-Muslim “terror plot” unravels
Without waiting for any evidence, Prime Minister John Howard and his ministers immediately claimed that the arrests provided disturbing new proof that “home-grown” terrorists were preparing attacks in Australia. Howard told parliament: “If they have broken the law or been involved in terrorism, well they deserve everything they get.”
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57319
BRING DAVID HOME NOW!
National Day of Action calling for the repatriation of David Hicks - 5 years of imprisonment & torture at the hands of the US army is more than enough: SATURDAY 9 DECEMBER 2006 - 12NOON - SYDNEY TOWN HALL Wear orange - bring drums
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/55226
The Sydney Morning who?
Mum asks Downer to help sons in prison and the Sydney [Boring] Herald thought they would help out?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/48600
Sydney Daily Telegraph (Murdoch owned) skirt the anti terror censorship laws with deliberately false yet cunning stories?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/47186
Australian media seizes upon Muslim cleric’s comments to whip up xenophobia
There is now an inescapable necessity for all those opposed to militarism and war, and committed to the defence of democratic rights, to develop an independent political opposition to the xenophobic campaign being directed against Muslims. No faction of the media or political establishment has any opposition to the drive to militarise society under the banner of “Australian values”, and all are complicit in the cultivation of anti-Muslim communalism.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/45493
Homegrown war criminal's 'a serious problem in Australia'
Jump, scream, run and hide the muswims are coming to get you! Everywhere I turn there is another terrorist. I opened the sugar bowl this morning and there was a terrorist cockroach just waiting to get me, after stealing my sugar mind you. So we must be very alert and very alarmed. How else would a war criminal get re-elected after a holocaust and what looks like a third interest rate rise this year? Mostly, Howard's goals can only be attained, amongst other things, if he pushes race hate buttons and whilst you continue to live in fear.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/44930
Another Gov't Scapegoat Denied Freedom
However the governments criminal acts and clergy all lie and cannot be believed to the gross dissatisfaction of the general community which have no confidence in the violation of human rights and dignity based on hearsay and rhetoric about thought crimes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/39895
Scott Parkin and Iraqi Asylum Seeker win court victory
In a huge victory - Scott Parkin and two Iraqi asylum seekers have won the right to view their negative ASIO security assessments in the Federal Court. The decision will expose the governments bogus attempts to link peace activism and asylum seekers with terrorism.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/11/129332_comment.php
Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489
THOUGHT CRIME IS NOT A CRIME! DROP THE CHARGES!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/15547
Doubtful justice in Lodhi sentencing
In Lodhi’s case, this has meant that the threshold of what constitutes “beyond reasonable doubt” has been lowered to an alarming degree. Justice and civil rights are the victims of this “war on terror” in which the government and security agencies benefit politically from convicting supposed terrorists. It is likely that Lodhi’s conviction and sentencing demonstrates, as in the Thomas case, that terror laws are being used to jail people who are not terrorists.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21361
QLD errorism suspect prepares bail application?
Appearing via video link today for a mention, Amundsen regularly spoke over the magistrate, saying he wanted to make another bail application because he now has technical information to prove that the devices in his home were not bombs.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20627
Lodhi gets 20 years for thought crime?
But what effect of what bombing attack? Thought crime attacks cause no vicitims or I might add no real threat to anyone! More fear has been created by the authorities baseless charges of crimes that were never committed and by the parrot press screaming out terrorist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20387
Amendments to proposed anti-terrorism/liberty directives have been dismissed in the Western Australian Parliament.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/20365/index.php
Convicted attention seeker Jack Roche called by afp as informant
A convicted 'attention seeker' Jack Roche now an afp informant has given hearsay evidence at the committal hearing for 13 men facing [alleged] terrorism charges in Melbourne.
http://sydney.indymedia.org/node/38379
American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay
Lodhi lawyer welcomes Thomas appeal win
Perhaps the abc should get another Walkley award?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19969
Prosecution playing 'dirty tricks' in terrorism trial
The defence lawyers for Melbourne's 13 terrorism suspects have accused the prosecution of playing dirty tricks.
The prosecution today played a taped conversation between defendants Shoue Hammoud and Bassam Raad in which the prosecution alleges Raad suggests the authorities that put other members of their group in jail need to be slaughtered.
But in a heated volley of legal argument, defence lawyers said the reference to slaughter instead refereed to Raad's fears about what could happen to his friends in jail.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution was trying to drum up outrageous headlines to excite the media and to compound the fear being peddled in the Australian community.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution should just get on with the evidence.
ABC 18 Aug 06
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200608/s1718526.htm
Court hears fishing expedition letter 'referred to sacrifices to a cause'
The letter reads: "My love, How I miss you already? What would I ever do if we were separated for more than a day? Inshallah I will never find out. May the only cause for our separation be the cause of Allah. And may he grant me paradise alongside you as queen of your Hoor." [kiss, kiss, kiss, hug]
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/119746.php
Faheem Lodhi - another non-terrorist jailed under Australia's 'anti-terror' laws?
Jack Thomas, a non-terrorist, has been jailed under Australia's anti-terror laws. Now Faheem Lodhi has been convicted under the terror laws on flimsy, circumstantial evidence. It is likely he is another non-terrorist jailed for political purposes under the terror laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19641
Terrorism scapegoat was kidnapped, court hears
The Melbourne Magistrates Court has heard a man charged with [allegedly] directing a terrorist organisation was kidnapped last year.
The court was told Abdul Benbrika alleged in a conversation recorded by police that he was questioned and hit during an abduction which lasted about six hours.
The defendant did not indicate who was responsible for the alleged kidnapping.
Magistrate Paul Smith heard police initiated an internal investigation into the alleged kidnapping, but it was dropped after numerous efforts to contact Benbrika.
HoWARd's abc 15 August 2006
Magistrate allows AK-47 photo to prejudice scapegoat trial
No doubt that the magistrate seeks to incorporate the media throughout the proceedings of these innocent men because of a lack of concrete evidence and just so they can be used as scapegoat's for hoWARd's war on terror.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19476
Former medical student to stand trial in kangaroo court!
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19027
Student loses bid for High Court hearing
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18535
Attorney General Ruddock is Oddball over anti-terrorist laws!Attorney
Attorney General Ruddock attacks different laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17746
Australia's Guantanamo
Have the 13 Muslim men arrested under Australia's new anti-terror laws been subjected to Guantanamo Bay-style conditions? It's an allegation being made by Civil Rights Defence
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18341
Major Michael Mori writes re David Hicks
The US Supreme Court has ruled the special Guantanamo trials illegal. An acceptable solution from the Americans is likely years away and our Government has run out of excuses not to act. Nearly 40,000 Australians have put their name to the Open Letter calling for David Hicks to be repatriated. I hope you'll join us now by clicking on the link:
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/DefendAustralianRights
Judges weigh 'Joseph Thomas's' appeal! Get your facts right!
What would she have imposed for stealing a passport?
http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2006/07/843328.shtml
Standardising terrorism in the prison population?
Try giving us hope, access to our communities, a sense of caring by the outside community. And letting us out to make restitution instead of building festering anger.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117580.php
Scapegoats accused 'exploited' by guberment prostitutor
The rest of the prisoners had to stay in jail in AA maximum security segregted with no contact with human people in a box within a box with no fresh air or sunlight with the worst of the worst offenders.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117553.php
Jury indicated it could not reach a verdict, but was ordered to push on?
These charges were that he collected maps of the Australian electricity supply system in preparation of a terrorist act (15 years), BUT WITH NO DETAILS ABOUT THE PREPARATION ACCEPT MATERIAL TO SUPPORT THOUGHT CRIME? that he sought information on chemical prices for the use of explosives for a terrorist act (life), BUT NO SOUND EVIDENCE ABOUT WHETHER THE CHEMICALS WERE GOING TO BE PURCHASED OR USED FOR THE USE OF EXPLOSIVES OR A TERRORIST ACT and that he possessed a document with information on the manufacture of poisons and bombs in preparation for a terrorist act (15 years). THAT HE LIKE MANY OTHERS MAY HAVE DOWNLOADED FROM THE INTERNET WHICH IS NOT ILLEGAL USUALLY?
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/115129.php
A dangerous precedent: Australian man convicted of “preparing terrorism”
Since 2001, the government has seized upon the “war” declared by US President George Bush for both domestic and international purposes. Under the guise of combating terrorism it has participated in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, diverted attention from mounting economic and social problems at home and legitimised previously unthinkable police state-style measures, including semi-secret trials, “preventative” detention and the ability to impose life sentences without any evidence of an actual terrorist act.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/16401
Secret evidence used in Australian “terrorist” trial
Lodhi was bundled into the court building in shackles, in full view of the media. The display was intended to convey the impression that he is a violent and highly dangerous individual. Like several other Muslim men charged with terrorist offences in Australia over the past year, Lodhi has been denied bail and held in virtual solitary confinement in a “super max” prison, cut off from family and friends. Under state and federal “counter-terrorism” laws, the traditional presumption in favour of bail has been scrapped. It will only be granted in “exceptional circumstances”. On receiving a confidential affidavit from the Commonwealth, Magistrate Michael Price imposed a number of secrecy orders despite vigorous objections by lawyers for Lodhi and by media organisations. The orders mean that the affidavit itself will remain suppressed, and the media is barred from disclosing even the general nature of the material relied upon in it.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/866066.shtml
Merry Christmas Mr Kent and Mr Haddara
After and ASIO fishing expedition they were charged last month with knowingly belonging to a Melbourne-based terrorist group, that did not exist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9799
ASIO raid family home
This is an assault on civil liberties, for all Australians - on the eve of Human Rights Day 2005 that marks the day in 1948, that the United Nations adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Shame hoWARd shame on you!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9706
Tight security impedes scapegoat case
Indymedia has learnt this includes a bank account his supporters say was set up to fund legal representation for Muslims facing any kind of legal action. The prosecution is understood to allege the money was intended for terrorist purposes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9693
Some evidence is prejudicial to national insecurity
It has been previously reported that he is facing nine charges and is accused of planning a major terrorist attack on Sydney defence sites and the electricity grid using downloads off the internet and having 100 rolls of toilet paper to wipe his arse after low level bombs and farts. Shit!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9682
Terrorism suspects' custody conditions 'inhumane'
"This treatment is very cruel and inhumane and what I've put forward to the Premier Morris Iemma to intervene and put an end to this scandal," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9657
Things and places identified
He said Mulahalilovic worked as a handyman, lived with his wife, parents and brother and, with the help of family members, could provide around $1 million security to ensure his freedom until trial.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9423
Dangerous handyman terror threat?
But the only mother of SATAN here is John HoWARd and his new Ant-Terrorism Bill!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9418
Terror suspects 'kept in dark'
"They're all kept in solitary confinement, they're kept in Guantanamo Bay style conditions and they're very oppressive," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9413
What are the dangerous chemicals police found when they went fishing?
If police say they were making bombs when they were painting motor vehicles then the only terrorist act that wasn't prevented was when police went on a fishing expedition.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9395
Man shot by police in fishing raids
But there is no such thing as an independent investigation team in NSW because police investigate themselves and cannot be relied upon ever.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9392
ASIO fishing expedition makes arrests
Are you satisfied truthseeker? Well I'm not this is just another public relations exercise that no one can prove. But trust us we know best?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9384
hoWARd, ruddock, ellison, keelty and news ltd plotted chaos
Now they go on in the article to describe themselves as intelligence officials? But I'm sorry to say that any group of people who ask another group of people to believe what they believe based on no evidence is amongst the most unintelligent and lost group of people the world has ever known.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8663
Houses raided over 'possible' political attack plans?
"Furthermore, nothing is reasonable about a raid on people's homes because for an alleged possibility. For those sorts of enquiries one should approach a 'soothsayer' and if you get the all clear only then should they approach people via the front door with the appropriate warrant to search one's home. A warrant based on concrete evidence that has been filtered by a juge or magistrate of the court to see whether the material is frivolous or vexatious."
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8659
If he'd been given his passport he'd be a free man
During his trial Mr Mallah's defence counsel said he was only trying to sustain the media spotlight when he sold details of his plans to an undercover officer posing as a journalist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8192
Melbourne man charged over ASIO links
Apparently this victim will appear before the Melbourne Magistrates Court later today and hopefully he won't be sent to the nearest "AA" Super-max prison for "social isolation" just in case ASIO aren't telling us the truth!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/7545/index.php
Australian prisoners' linked to Bin Laden: Ten News
Hatzistergos: "For example, because of a perceived risk that they may engage in, or incite other persons to engage in, terrorist activities."
Terrorist prisoners held in a "box within a box" with no "fresh air or sunlight" at Goulburn HRMU may incite alleged terrorists in Long Bay to blow up Long Bay Prison's Twin Towers?
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/liverpool/2004/11/300344.html
Mercy for murderers
Every family member of a 'victim' must feel this way. So when you think of the innocent victims in Bali then also think of the innocent victims in Iraq and Afghanistan the very reason for Bali.
http://scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/2078/index.php
IT JUST CANNOT BE AND DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ACCUSE A SCAPEGOAT OF THESE PLANS THAT ONLY GIVE HITLER HOWARD MORE WAR MARBLES! WHY AM I WRITING THIS IN CAPS? BECAUSE I'M SICK OF WASTING MY TIME. BUT I AM COMPELLED TO BELIEVE ONLY THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP ME EVERYONE!
REMEMBER EVERY LINK HAS A LINK THEY CAN'T ESCAPE! SO IF YOU HAVE THE TIME MESS MEDIA TAKE THE TIME AND READ ON! THEN GET IT RIGHT FOR ALL OF HUMANITY! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
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Rocket launcher suspect linked to terrorism group?
A man charged with supplying stolen Army rocket launchers is suspected of having connections with a group plotting to blow up the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Lucas Heights nuclear reactor.
A joint police and ASIO operation picked up Sydney man Abdul Rahman in the Sydney suburb of Leumeah early this morning.
Police allege the 28-year-old received seven anti-armour rocket launchers stolen from the Australian Defence Force and passed two on to one man and five to another.
The person who received five is facing terrorism charges in an unrelated matter.
That person was one of a group of 15 people arrested and charged after raids on homes in Sydney and Melbourne in November.
Rahman has been charged with 17 offences, including dishonestly, receiving stolen property and supplying a prohibited weapon without authorisation.
Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty says he has evidence of plans to use the weapons on a building in Sydney.
"There was a potential target that had been identified by the individual and the group that the individual had been operating with," he said.
New South Wales Assistant Commissioner Nick Kaldas says police have so far recovered just one of the launchers.
"It's fair to say we're concerned about those weapons being in the community," he said.
The use of hand-held rocket launchers by the military has been suspended pending the outcome of an inquiry into how they were stolen.
Rahman will remain in custody before a court hearing next week.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200701/s1822271.htm =============================
Bikies building bazookas
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
Bikies building bazookas
HELL'S Angels bikies are involved in the production of rocket launchers, a bikie source says.
The source claims an associate of the Hell's Angels bikie gang in Darwin has produced rocket launchers in the rural area.
It is claimed the associate obtained a copy of The Terrorists Handbook down-loaded from the internet.
The 150-page dossier details how bombs and explosives can be made, and includes instructions on what materials are required to build a rocket launcher.
A bikie source alleges the manufacturer of the weapons is making rocket launchers in an industrial shed complete with a machine press. NT Police are aware of the allegations but have declined to comment on whether officers have interviewed the associate alleged to be involved.
Police media manager Sue Bradley would only say that, ``it is Special Operations Section policy not to comment on operational issues such as this pertaining to any high-risk crime group or their associates''.
It is not the first time that the Hell's Angels in Darwin have been linked to the manufacturing, buying or selling of rocket launchers.
In May 2003, a rocket launcher was believed to have been among a cache of weapons seized during raids on residences and premises of the Hell's Angels motorcycle gang.
Also understood to have been seized during those raids were police-issue pistols and a substantial quantity of amphetamines.
Newshawk:
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A rocket launcher similar to the one that a man bought from a tip in central Queensland for $2
The type of single-use "fire-and-forget" rocket launcher found in a central Queensland town tip and handed into police this morning is used by two overseas defence forces that recently underwent live-fire exercises at a nearby army training area.
The Department of Defence's acting director-general of communications, Colonel Pup Elliott, told smh.com.au the weapon was not Australian Defence Force ordnance.
"I can tell you from the photo straight away it's not one of ours, it's not one of the weapons we use in our inventory."
It is believed the weapon came from the Shoalwater military training area, a short distance from the town of Yeppoon, near Rockhampton, where the tip was located.
Colonel Elliott said the weapon could be traced to an overseas force that recently used the training area.
"We've certainly had soldiers from Singapore, we've had US Marines and [US Army] and I think they all have it in their inventory.
"So we're just going to have ask who had it, and how they accounted for it."
The Matador anti-armour rocket launcher is a 90mm single-use weapon designed by the Singaporean army.
The launcher - already fired and therefore not an immediate threat - was found at a recycling centre attached to a tip at Yeppoon by local man James Maloney.
He told local paper The Morning Bulletin he had paid $2 for it.
"I work in the local theatre restaurant and wanted to use it as a stage prop," he said.
However, when he read a story in a local paper about the army misplacing rocket launchers - based on a story in the Herald - he decided to hand the weapon over.
He gave the weapon to a reporter from The Morning Bulletin who, after contacting the Department of Defence and being told the weapon was not dangerous, kept it for a number of days to photograph it and write a story.
This led to a period of confusion when local police, contacted by Defence, were unable to establish the whereabouts of the weapon.
"The police rang me earlier this evening and they told me they didn't know where it was so I redirected them back to the reporter," Mr Maloney said earlier this week, adding that the last time he saw the weapon was in the back seat of the reporter's car.
The reporter handed it into Yeppoon police station this morning at 8.30am local time (9.30am AEST).
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/2-rocket-launcher-found/2007/01/03/1 ========================
Army chief tight-lipped on rocket launcher theft reports
Chief of the Army, Lieutenant General Peter Leahy, says the military is cooperating with an investigation about the possible theft of high-powered weapons.
Earlier this year, a Sydney court heard a rocket launcher was found in the city's south-west before a fatal double shooting three years ago.
It was not used in the attack.
Last month New South Wales police said it was the subject of an ongoing investigation.
Now there are claims other rocket launchers may have been stolen from the Army.
Lieutenant General Leahy says the army is cooperating with authorities.
"This is an ongoing security investigation in which the state, federal and Army authorities are involved," he said.
"I'm really not at liberty to talk very much about it.
"I'm sure that you understand ongoing operational and security matters, there's a great potential to compromise a whole range of things, so I would ask that you understand that that's really all I am able to say."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200612/s1812449.htm ===============================
Someone deserves a rocket
Saturday, December 23, 2006
Gotcha with Gary Hughes
If the Australian Defence Force’s role is to protect us, who is protecting us from the ADF? The army has taken the extraordinary step of calling in Australia’s top spy agency ASIO to help it count its anti-tank rockets amid fears that up to nine of them might have gone missing and fallen into the hands of criminals. The move follows the discovery in Victoria that a sergeant allegedly stole enough weapons, including machine guns, from a military base to equip a small army.
The announcement of ASIO’s oversight of an audit of shoulder-fired LAW anti-tank rockets was made late yesterday in an announcement by Defence Minister Brendan Nelson. In the meantime the issue of any more of the one-use rockets has been halted.
The audit of the rockets will be followed by a security review of all ADF weapons, munitions and explosive, which will also be led by ASIO.
Last week it was revealed that NSW Police had paid $50,000 for one of the 66mm light anti-armour rockets, which had been obtained by a ethnic Sydney crime faction. The hunt for a further eight rocket launchers is underway. The rockets are believed to have been stolen from the ADF, although this has yet to be confirmed.
These rockets carry the label “light”, but don’t be fooled. The rockets, which can be easily fired by one person, can penetrate more than 300mm of armour and can be used as a “bunker buster” against enemy fortifications. Against a civilian target, such as an ordinary vehicle or a house, they would be devastating. They have a maximum range of 350 metres and can be fired at moving targets.
Earlier this week details of the weapons allegedly stolen along with truck loads of other equipment from the Puckapunyal army camp in Victoria were revealed. They included:
• 22 high-explosive grenades
• 7.62mm M60 machinegun
• F1 sub-machinegun
• 5.56mm M16 semi-automatic assault rifle
• A survival rifle
• A pistol
• Up to 500,000 rounds of ammunition.
In yesterday’s statement, Brendan Nelson said an audit of current weapons at Puckapunyal had been completed and all stocks were accounted for. Similarly, the current holdings of the LAW rockets had been accounted for, apart from those being used by troops on deployment. Historical records of weapons were now being checked.
But clearly, if someone can walk out of Puckapunyal with machine guns and automatic rifles without being detected, those records may not be all that accurate. And how many other military weapons might have been previously stolen from military bases and trafficked to criminals?
“The Government takes this issue very seriously,” Brendan Nelson said. About time.
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/garyhughes/index.php/theaustralia ===========================
Sydney (dpa) - Australian police believe rogue elements in the Army may be behind the black market sale of rocket launchers after only one of nine anti-tank weapons suspected to have been stolen was recovered, the Sydney Morning Herald reported Friday.
The theft of military weapons was uncommon, according to Australia Defence Association executive director Neil James, but security systems were not foolproof.
He said the only previous case of a rocket launcher being used by civilians in Australia was an incident between two criminal gangs in the 1980s. That rocket launcher had been smuggled in from abroad.
The military have not confirmed that it has lost weaponry.
"Large weapon thefts from the military is actually reasonably rare, but every so often the odd weapon does go missing, generally it's an internal job," James said. "Any system is not completely foolproof, especially to an inside job, that's why most bank fraud is done by bank employees."
The recovered rocket launcher had its serial number filed off, making it impossible for police to determine its provenance. It was recovered after police paid a bounty to an underworld figure, the paper claimed.
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Arrest made over rocket launcher theft
Police in New South Wales say a man has been arrested over his alleged involvement in the theft of seven rocket launchers.
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Another scapegoat or two bite the dust!
John Howard the rocket launcher and his AFP now lay the blame of lost rocket launchers on a scapegoat in custody. Typical propaganda to make himself look good. Again! But now there is a specific target and I strongly suggest it's John Howard's war on terror and how much of a boost he can give to his fear factor so he can continue war mongering!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57793 Community probe reports of AFP training with CIA and M15
"We can determine that there have been other reports about the illegal and degrading wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the complicity of the AFP in the Bali bombing in 2002, and now the fire sale of Australian military hardware, including a rocket launcher found on a tip. After the rocket launchers that went missing from the Australia War Force just recently and that's part of the inquiries that we are making," They said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57781 ==============================
U.S. Army Subpoenas Independent Journalist to Testify
Ring a bell? Jack Thomas and Four Corners!
Read on or better still watch the program if you can.
Australian court orders re-trial on terrorist charges
His re-trial is a warning that the political and media establishment will stop at nothing to try to secure convictions to bolster the “war on terror” and overturn essential protections against official persecution, such as the rules against torture and double jeopardy.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57711 Political scapegoat to face retrial for a Walkley award
But the facts about his torture seems a little difficult for John Howard's ABC to spit out in today's news! And John Howard's motives should be very clear to everyone. Scapegoats have become the latest fascism.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57627 http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57759 ================================
Australia Complicit in CIA Bali Bombings: Community
[There is] no doubt whatsoever of the CIA's involvement and the complicity of the Australian goverment and that view is shared by us and by our counterparts in Indonesia.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57645 Bring David Hicks home - thousands of people rally across Australia
"John Howard, he doesn't want (to) bring David Hicks here for so many reasons, because he's a good witness against the crime of the government overseas."
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57570 Billboards going up, lawsuit filed, David Hicks home by Christmas?
Finally, this Saturday December 9, you can join thousands of Australians nationwide to mark the fifth year of David's detention without trial. Peaceful protests are being coordinated by a coalition of action and human rights groups including Fair Go for David and Amnesty International, with key speakers at each event including Major Mori in Melbourne. Order your own Bring David Hicks Home sign and check out the details of a gathering near you.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57564 NATIONAL DAY OF ACTION-FIVE YEARS TOO LONG-BRING DAVID HOME NOW!
- Close Guantanamo prison camp - Stop the war on civil liberties
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57539 Hicks: Major Mori speaks
According to Mori, ?g All it would take is for the attorney-general to make a telephone call [to Washington] and David would be coming home?h. But the Australian government has a political problem, he said, because for five years they?fve labeled Hicks an ?gaccused terrorist?h or a ?gterror suspect?h. They?fve admitted that if Hicks was brought home they could not charge him with anything because he has not committed a crime under Australian law. Mori believes the Howard government is still hoping the US will do the dirty work for them.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57478 No compo for malice, rendition, false imprisonment, assault - including torture - government secrets?
The court was also told that the Government will be mounting two confidential defences in the case - one of which will only be released to Mr Habib's lawyers.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57460 hoWARd's connections with the abc in Australia and abroad
[So you have to have a story behind it to make up for the distance between false flag opps in Indonesia all the way across to Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap to cover without a terror tale to hook into? What about the Icon of the Terror movement G W Bush? At least we know he's guilty! Osama bin Laden hasn't been found guilty of anything, yo!] And Indonesia has been blowing up bombs in their own country just to move people out of villages for years!]
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57430 'Australia: Anti-Muslim “terror plot” unravels'
Without waiting for any evidence, Prime Minister John Howard and his ministers immediately claimed that the arrests provided disturbing new proof that “home-grown” terrorists were preparing attacks in Australia. Howard told parliament: “If they have broken the law or been involved in terrorism, well they deserve everything they get.”
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57319 Draconian scapegoat orders 'stacked against' Thomas
A constitutional law expert says the system is stacked against Melbourne man Jack Thomas.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21072 'Control order' should frighten all Australians
Greens Senator Kerry Nettle today condemned the issuing of a 'control order' to Jack Thomas by the Attorney General Phillip Ruddock and renewed The Greens call for this arbitrary power to be removed from law.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120775_comment.php#120787 Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988 Jack Thomas served with control order
‘Anyway who cares about civil liberties should be outraged at this decision. We hear about authoritarian governments putting people under house arrest in Burma – well, now it’s happening right here in Australia!’
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120670.php Professor George Williams says
University of New South Wales law expert Professor George Williams says the matter could be tested in the High Court.
He says the case will reduce people's confidence in the justice system.
"The fact that a jury is not involved, the fact that the criteria are loaded against the person because the standard of proof is significantly lower than it would normally be, mean that even though a judge, I have no doubt, will attempt to give a fair hearing and do his or her best - doesn't matter," he said.
"You've got the system stacked against someone.
"This is not a normal process and indeed that's exactly the problem with it."
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120828_comment.php If they were any tougher they'd Rust!
Tougher terrorism laws predicted after Thomas ruling?
A top defence lawyer says he is concerned the Government might push for tougher anti-terrorism laws as a result of the quashing of convictions against Melbourne man Joseph Terrence Thomas.
abc 18 Aug 06
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200608/s1718915.htm Judge quashes Thomas conviction
This is fantastic news. Congratulations to Jack and the Thomas family! It is a vindication of everyone prepared to fight for basic rights -- and makes the bus trip all the more important. We're in the process of putting a press release out. Good news for a change!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/19874/index.php Joseph Thomas conviction immoral
AN EMBARRASSING conviction based on TORTURE IMMORAL
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117441.php DPP should lose the plot!
Now why would the DPP do that? Based on some notion I suppose, that john hoWARd (the hangman) wants to use Thomas's butt again, to raise the fear stakes in the introduction of the new Anti-Liberty-Dissent Directives!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9617 David Hicks’s release from Guantánamo
The ongoing imprisonment of Hicks, which is designed to psychologically destroy him, has further underscored the contempt for legal precedent and democratic rights that characterises the entire Australian political establishment.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57588 No compo for malice, rendition, false imprisonment, assault - including torture - government secrets?
The court was also told that the Government will be mounting two confidential defences in the case - one of which will only be released to Mr Habib's lawyers.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57460 Andrew Sullivan and the Tortued Truth
Mr. Habib said he was taken to a room with hooks on the wall and a barrel, set sideways like a roller, on the floor. His arms were stretched out, he said, and each wrist was handcuffed and fastened to a hook on the wall. By his description, the only way not to be left hanging was to stand on the barrel; an electric wire ran through it. Mr. Habib said he believed the interrogators in that room were Pakistani.
Mr. Habib said that when he refused to confess to being part of a 1995 terror plot, one man turned on the current. He lifted his feet to avoid the shock, he recalled, and he was suspended from the wall.
"I lost everything," he said.
http://bodyandsoul.typepad.com/blog/2005/02/theres_been_a_s.html The American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay must be closed. Let the people go free. Pardon them. Show them Christian charity. Stop this evil.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20129 International Protest Day calls for the end of Guantánamo Bay
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17099 hoWARd's connections with the abc in Australia and abroad
[So you have to have a story behind it to make up for the distance between false flag opps in Indonesia all the way across to Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap to cover without a terror tale to hook into? What about the Icon of the Terror movement G W Bush? At least we know he's guilty! Osama bin Laden hasn't been found guilty of anything, yo!] And Indonesia has been blowing up bombs in their own country just to move people out of villages for years!]
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57430 Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489 Anti-terrorism laws target non-suspects: expert
The forum will look at Australia's legal response to terrorism but would be minded to think of it as scapegoating for john hoWARd's illegal and degrading war of aggression on Iraq that's errorism on purpose. In short, the 'fear' of the politics of a war criminal!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57379 Australia: Anti-Muslim “terror plot” unravels
Without waiting for any evidence, Prime Minister John Howard and his ministers immediately claimed that the arrests provided disturbing new proof that “home-grown” terrorists were preparing attacks in Australia. Howard told parliament: “If they have broken the law or been involved in terrorism, well they deserve everything they get.”
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57319 BRING DAVID HOME NOW!
National Day of Action calling for the repatriation of David Hicks - 5 years of imprisonment & torture at the hands of the US army is more than enough: SATURDAY 9 DECEMBER 2006 - 12NOON - SYDNEY TOWN HALL Wear orange - bring drums
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/55226 The Sydney Morning who?
Mum asks Downer to help sons in prison and the Sydney [Boring] Herald thought they would help out?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/48600 Sydney Daily Telegraph (Murdoch owned) skirt the anti terror censorship laws with deliberately false yet cunning stories?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/47186 Australian media seizes upon Muslim cleric’s comments to whip up xenophobia
There is now an inescapable necessity for all those opposed to militarism and war, and committed to the defence of democratic rights, to develop an independent political opposition to the xenophobic campaign being directed against Muslims. No faction of the media or political establishment has any opposition to the drive to militarise society under the banner of “Australian values”, and all are complicit in the cultivation of anti-Muslim communalism.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/45493 Homegrown war criminal's 'a serious problem in Australia'
Jump, scream, run and hide the muswims are coming to get you! Everywhere I turn there is another terrorist. I opened the sugar bowl this morning and there was a terrorist cockroach just waiting to get me, after stealing my sugar mind you. So we must be very alert and very alarmed. How else would a war criminal get re-elected after a holocaust and what looks like a third interest rate rise this year? Mostly, Howard's goals can only be attained, amongst other things, if he pushes race hate buttons and whilst you continue to live in fear.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/44930 Another Gov't Scapegoat Denied Freedom
However the governments criminal acts and clergy all lie and cannot be believed to the gross dissatisfaction of the general community which have no confidence in the violation of human rights and dignity based on hearsay and rhetoric about thought crimes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/39895 Scott Parkin and Iraqi Asylum Seeker win court victory
In a huge victory - Scott Parkin and two Iraqi asylum seekers have won the right to view their negative ASIO security assessments in the Federal Court. The decision will expose the governments bogus attempts to link peace activism and asylum seekers with terrorism.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/11/129332_comment.php Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489 THOUGHT CRIME IS NOT A CRIME! DROP THE CHARGES!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/15547 Doubtful justice in Lodhi sentencing
In Lodhi’s case, this has meant that the threshold of what constitutes “beyond reasonable doubt” has been lowered to an alarming degree. Justice and civil rights are the victims of this “war on terror” in which the government and security agencies benefit politically from convicting supposed terrorists. It is likely that Lodhi’s conviction and sentencing demonstrates, as in the Thomas case, that terror laws are being used to jail people who are not terrorists.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21361 QLD errorism suspect prepares bail application?
Appearing via video link today for a mention, Amundsen regularly spoke over the magistrate, saying he wanted to make another bail application because he now has technical information to prove that the devices in his home were not bombs.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20627 Lodhi gets 20 years for thought crime?
But what effect of what bombing attack? Thought crime attacks cause no vicitims or I might add no real threat to anyone! More fear has been created by the authorities baseless charges of crimes that were never committed and by the parrot press screaming out terrorist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20387 Amendments to proposed anti-terrorism/liberty directives have been dismissed in the Western Australian Parliament.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/20365/index.php Convicted attention seeker Jack Roche called by afp as informant
A convicted 'attention seeker' Jack Roche now an afp informant has given hearsay evidence at the committal hearing for 13 men facing [alleged] terrorism charges in Melbourne.
http://sydney.indymedia.org/node/38379 American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay
Lodhi lawyer welcomes Thomas appeal win
Perhaps the abc should get another Walkley award?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19969 Prosecution playing 'dirty tricks' in terrorism trial
The defence lawyers for Melbourne's 13 terrorism suspects have accused the prosecution of playing dirty tricks.
The prosecution today played a taped conversation between defendants Shoue Hammoud and Bassam Raad in which the prosecution alleges Raad suggests the authorities that put other members of their group in jail need to be slaughtered.
But in a heated volley of legal argument, defence lawyers said the reference to slaughter instead refereed to Raad's fears about what could happen to his friends in jail.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution was trying to drum up outrageous headlines to excite the media and to compound the fear being peddled in the Australian community.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution should just get on with the evidence.
ABC 18 Aug 06
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200608/s1718526.htm Court hears fishing expedition letter 'referred to sacrifices to a cause'
The letter reads: "My love, How I miss you already? What would I ever do if we were separated for more than a day? Inshallah I will never find out. May the only cause for our separation be the cause of Allah. And may he grant me paradise alongside you as queen of your Hoor." [kiss, kiss, kiss, hug]
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/119746.php Faheem Lodhi - another non-terrorist jailed under Australia's 'anti-terror' laws?
Jack Thomas, a non-terrorist, has been jailed under Australia's anti-terror laws. Now Faheem Lodhi has been convicted under the terror laws on flimsy, circumstantial evidence. It is likely he is another non-terrorist jailed for political purposes under the terror laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19641 Terrorism scapegoat was kidnapped, court hears
The Melbourne Magistrates Court has heard a man charged with [allegedly] directing a terrorist organisation was kidnapped last year.
The court was told Abdul Benbrika alleged in a conversation recorded by police that he was questioned and hit during an abduction which lasted about six hours.
The defendant did not indicate who was responsible for the alleged kidnapping.
Magistrate Paul Smith heard police initiated an internal investigation into the alleged kidnapping, but it was dropped after numerous efforts to contact Benbrika.
HoWARd's abc 15 August 2006
Magistrate allows AK-47 photo to prejudice scapegoat trial
No doubt that the magistrate seeks to incorporate the media throughout the proceedings of these innocent men because of a lack of concrete evidence and just so they can be used as scapegoat's for hoWARd's war on terror.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19476 Former medical student to stand trial in kangaroo court!
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19027 Student loses bid for High Court hearing
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18535 Attorney General Ruddock is Oddball over anti-terrorist laws!Attorney
Attorney General Ruddock attacks different laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17746 Australia's Guantanamo
Have the 13 Muslim men arrested under Australia's new anti-terror laws been subjected to Guantanamo Bay-style conditions? It's an allegation being made by Civil Rights Defence
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18341 Major Michael Mori writes re David Hicks
The US Supreme Court has ruled the special Guantanamo trials illegal. An acceptable solution from the Americans is likely years away and our Government has run out of excuses not to act. Nearly 40,000 Australians have put their name to the Open Letter calling for David Hicks to be repatriated. I hope you'll join us now by clicking on the link:
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/DefendAustralianRights Judges weigh 'Joseph Thomas's' appeal! Get your facts right!
What would she have imposed for stealing a passport?
http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2006/07/843328.shtml Standardising terrorism in the prison population?
Try giving us hope, access to our communities, a sense of caring by the outside community. And letting us out to make restitution instead of building festering anger.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117580.php Scapegoats accused 'exploited' by guberment prostitutor
The rest of the prisoners had to stay in jail in AA maximum security segregted with no contact with human people in a box within a box with no fresh air or sunlight with the worst of the worst offenders.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117553.php Jury indicated it could not reach a verdict, but was ordered to push on?
These charges were that he collected maps of the Australian electricity supply system in preparation of a terrorist act (15 years), BUT WITH NO DETAILS ABOUT THE PREPARATION ACCEPT MATERIAL TO SUPPORT THOUGHT CRIME? that he sought information on chemical prices for the use of explosives for a terrorist act (life), BUT NO SOUND EVIDENCE ABOUT WHETHER THE CHEMICALS WERE GOING TO BE PURCHASED OR USED FOR THE USE OF EXPLOSIVES OR A TERRORIST ACT and that he possessed a document with information on the manufacture of poisons and bombs in preparation for a terrorist act (15 years). THAT HE LIKE MANY OTHERS MAY HAVE DOWNLOADED FROM THE INTERNET WHICH IS NOT ILLEGAL USUALLY?
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/115129.php A dangerous precedent: Australian man convicted of “preparing terrorism”
Since 2001, the government has seized upon the “war” declared by US President George Bush for both domestic and international purposes. Under the guise of combating terrorism it has participated in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, diverted attention from mounting economic and social problems at home and legitimised previously unthinkable police state-style measures, including semi-secret trials, “preventative” detention and the ability to impose life sentences without any evidence of an actual terrorist act.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/16401 Secret evidence used in Australian “terrorist” trial
Lodhi was bundled into the court building in shackles, in full view of the media. The display was intended to convey the impression that he is a violent and highly dangerous individual. Like several other Muslim men charged with terrorist offences in Australia over the past year, Lodhi has been denied bail and held in virtual solitary confinement in a “super max” prison, cut off from family and friends. Under state and federal “counter-terrorism” laws, the traditional presumption in favour of bail has been scrapped. It will only be granted in “exceptional circumstances”. On receiving a confidential affidavit from the Commonwealth, Magistrate Michael Price imposed a number of secrecy orders despite vigorous objections by lawyers for Lodhi and by media organisations. The orders mean that the affidavit itself will remain suppressed, and the media is barred from disclosing even the general nature of the material relied upon in it.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/866066.shtml Merry Christmas Mr Kent and Mr Haddara
After and ASIO fishing expedition they were charged last month with knowingly belonging to a Melbourne-based terrorist group, that did not exist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9799 ASIO raid family home
This is an assault on civil liberties, for all Australians - on the eve of Human Rights Day 2005 that marks the day in 1948, that the United Nations adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Shame hoWARd shame on you!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9706 Tight security impedes scapegoat case
Indymedia has learnt this includes a bank account his supporters say was set up to fund legal representation for Muslims facing any kind of legal action. The prosecution is understood to allege the money was intended for terrorist purposes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9693 Some evidence is prejudicial to national insecurity
It has been previously reported that he is facing nine charges and is accused of planning a major terrorist attack on Sydney defence sites and the electricity grid using downloads off the internet and having 100 rolls of toilet paper to wipe his arse after low level bombs and farts. Shit!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9682 Terrorism suspects' custody conditions 'inhumane'
"This treatment is very cruel and inhumane and what I've put forward to the Premier Morris Iemma to intervene and put an end to this scandal," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9657 Things and places identified
He said Mulahalilovic worked as a handyman, lived with his wife, parents and brother and, with the help of family members, could provide around $1 million security to ensure his freedom until trial.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9423 Dangerous handyman terror threat?
But the only mother of SATAN here is John HoWARd and his new Ant-Terrorism Bill!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9418 Terror suspects 'kept in dark'
"They're all kept in solitary confinement, they're kept in Guantanamo Bay style conditions and they're very oppressive," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9413 What are the dangerous chemicals police found when they went fishing?
If police say they were making bombs when they were painting motor vehicles then the only terrorist act that wasn't prevented was when police went on a fishing expedition.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9395 Man shot by police in fishing raids
But there is no such thing as an independent investigation team in NSW because police investigate themselves and cannot be relied upon ever.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9392 ASIO fishing expedition makes arrests
Are you satisfied truthseeker? Well I'm not this is just another public relations exercise that no one can prove. But trust us we know best?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9384 hoWARd, ruddock, ellison, keelty and news ltd plotted chaos
Now they go on in the article to describe themselves as intelligence officials? But I'm sorry to say that any group of people who ask another group of people to believe what they believe based on no evidence is amongst the most unintelligent and lost group of people the world has ever known.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8663 Houses raided over 'possible' political attack plans?
"Furthermore, nothing is reasonable about a raid on people's homes because for an alleged possibility. For those sorts of enquiries one should approach a 'soothsayer' and if you get the all clear only then should they approach people via the front door with the appropriate warrant to search one's home. A warrant based on concrete evidence that has been filtered by a juge or magistrate of the court to see whether the material is frivolous or vexatious."
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8659 If he'd been given his passport he'd be a free man
During his trial Mr Mallah's defence counsel said he was only trying to sustain the media spotlight when he sold details of his plans to an undercover officer posing as a journalist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8192 Melbourne man charged over ASIO links
Apparently this victim will appear before the Melbourne Magistrates Court later today and hopefully he won't be sent to the nearest "AA" Super-max prison for "social isolation" just in case ASIO aren't telling us the truth!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/7545/index.php Australian prisoners' linked to Bin Laden: Ten News
Hatzistergos: "For example, because of a perceived risk that they may engage in, or incite other persons to engage in, terrorist activities."
Terrorist prisoners held in a "box within a box" with no "fresh air or sunlight" at Goulburn HRMU may incite alleged terrorists in Long Bay to blow up Long Bay Prison's Twin Towers?
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/liverpool/2004/11/300344.html Mercy for murderers
Every family member of a 'victim' must feel this way. So when you think of the innocent victims in Bali then also think of the innocent victims in Iraq and Afghanistan the very reason for Bali.
http://scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/2078/index.php
Johnny B Good
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Give us a break
05.01.2007 23:36
Moderator, please hide this rubbish. We are all better off without this cluttering up this place.
Norville B.
If they were stolen?
06.01.2007 00:19
If they were stolen they may have been stolen for drugs by the person who works in the ADF, on a high he could not afford, or did not want to pay his drug dealer for out of his living wage!
But if you found what was stolen then you could decide whether they just ended up on the tip and someone bought it for $2.00!
If they were stolen and the one that was found was not just delivered by a police informer, as was suggest, whereby an AFP or ASIO person attempted to offer one for sale for $50,000 then that makes the story all bullshit and just a set up!
So that was reported and so was the one found during the gang drug fight.
That makes it two rocket launches? But now they say they only found one?
Maybe the police have the other 5 as well as the sixth which was used by the informer to catch an alleged terrorist? Because police say one was found during a family drug fight.
If one was found how do they know who made it? No serial number and bikies were making them as well.
Was the one alleged to have been found fired like the one on the tip? As was stated 'they only fire once'!
Why was the original story posted that stated the one found was a rivalry between two families in a drug war? Not a terrorist plot?
Why did it take three to four years to look for the alleged rest of them?
Why did it take three to four years to link it with some type of terrorist plot? Why did it take an additional day to link it with the harbour bridge and Lucas Heights nukiller facility?
Too many questions for the ABC and not enough answers.
I could ask more questions but you know what I can't be bothered with liars and pissants from the abc and the govt who won't admit to it.
Mick
Exuse me norvil are you a troll? Then read this!
06.01.2007 00:24
Conspiracy Theories And The Truth Scale
Full information is the key to knowing whether any argument or theory is true or false. You would know whether a companion animal is named Spot, or not, if you named it. You would have complete information about the question of what the animal's name is, and how it came to be so called. But what about someone else who does not know you or your dog? Since they lack any relevant information they cannot be sure whether the name is Spot, of something else. If they are given a clue, say by the initial S on the animal's collar, a stranger can begin to move from a position of complete uncertainty, halfway between absolute truth and absolute falsity, to a position on a scale that is closer to the name Spot being true than to it being false. The diagram below shows such a Truth Scale, that can be used to reflect degrees of certainty or uncertainty about a statement, assertion, theory, or notion.
In the diagram, zero is absolute falsity and 8 is absolute truth. Only those in full possession of all the relevant facts and information can know whether an assertion, such as "The dog's name is Spot", fits at 0 or at 8. Everyone else has either to: (a) accept the truth of the statement, without any real basis for doing so, or (b) fit the statement into the scale that bridges the range of probabilities between 0 and 8. If there is no other information, the fit should be Step 4. There is an equal probability of the statement being true or false. The notion is "half authentic".
Luke
Actually
06.01.2007 09:03
Then some defence force dude says words to the effect, 'what makes you think those rocket launches come from the war force?'. In other words he wasn't going to wear the slure for John Howard, ASIO, AFP scapegoat frame up and the scapegoat must have got them he says from somewhere else.
The next funny thing I noticed was that opposition leader Kevin Rudd wasn't alarmed by the bullshit story except to argue about the responsibility of the ADF, in other words scapegoat frame up's and the use of scapegoats was okay by him.
With respect if that idot was to get into public office himself and he won't anyway because the federal dictatorship is nailed to the wall by PNAC, he would 'want' to use the same manipulation and scapegoating of citizenry as the John Howard gov't and that my friends is the reason that all he can say is that the ADF should be more responsible.
I ask you people, is Kevin Rudd blind, deaf, or dumb? Or just totally ignorant?
The answer in mho is the later! Because his parties idea is just as despotic as the Howard gov't is, hence the reason for Labor turning a blind eye to scapegoating,rendition, torture, draconian laws, and false flag opps of citizenry, in order to manipulate fear and oppression for PNAC.
He sees PNAC as an invitation for public office and not an overwhelming despotic empire of the USA.
Mick
Australia's security credentials under fire
06.01.2007 10:29
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