Opposition grows in Rushmoor to cuts in refuse collection
Keith Parkins | 27.02.2007 17:57 | Health | Repression | Social Struggles
The first month of a six-month trial of fortnightly refuse collection in the Rotten Borough of Rushmoor has led to public outcry, with bin men calling for the 'experiment' to be scrapped.
'It should be stopped right away as it's clear it's not being supported by those involved. It gives us extra work as the amount of rubbish we're collecting from these homes is doubled. I know there are lots of larger families who cannot cope with it.' -- bin man, Rotten Borough of Rushmoor
'I urge residents involved in the trial to contact their councillors about this as they are having unfair pressure put on them.' -- Councillor David Clifford, Rotten Borough of Rushmoor
'The whole thing is going to blow up in their faces. It's in turmoil. I have residents coming to me wanting to know who's responsible for implementing it.' -- Councillor Peter Sandy, Rotten Borough of Rushmoor
'I'm quite pleased with how the trial is going at the moment and we have not had any significant hiccups.' -- Councillor Roland Dibbs, rubbish portfolio, Rotten Borough of Rushmoor
Introduction of fortnightly refuse collection on a so-called six-month trial basis in the Rotten Borough of Rushmoor, has after the first month, been hailed an unmitigated disaster by bin men, local residents, and the two honourable councillors, David Clifford and Peter Sandy, who are prepared to speak out on behalf of local residents and be counted.
David Clifford, who represents Farnborough, has described the cuts in service as 'rubbish'. He questions why the right-wing Tory-controlled council is doing neo-Labour's bidding.
Bin men who have to collect two-week-old decaying rubbish, have described fortnightly collection as 'disgusting'. The bin men have had to endure the wrath of extremely angry local residents who have been forced to participate in the six month so-called trial, including being pelted with rubbish.
Bins are overflowing, rubbish is strewn across the streets.
The bin men would be even more concerned if they were aware of research carried out in Norway and Sweden in 2003, which showed bin men were suffering inflammation of the respiratory tract from breathing in bioaerosols from two-week-old decaying putrescent waste. The Scandinavian researchers were of the view it would lead to longterm health problems.
One bin man, who does not wish to be named, has called for the experiment to be scrapped and a return to weekly collection throughout the borough.
David Clifford says he is not surprised that the bin men are against. He has spoken to people in neighbouring local authorities, and they are against. So far he has found only two people in favour.
He has done well, I have yet to find anyone in favour.
David Clifford says those who should be targeted are the supermarkets and others who produce the waste, not 'helpless' consumers, and questioned the council's agenda which is cutting costs, not reducing waste, improving the abysmal performance on recycling.
Peter Sandy, who represents Aldershot, who has been leafleting Aldershot and now intends to leaflet Farnborough, has had hundreds of replies every week, all expressing strong opposition. He has yet to meet a single person on the street who is in favour.
The only person it seems, apart from councillors and their officials, who has voiced support for the cut in service, is Rick Kimber, mouthpiece for BVFoE, a dysfunctional local FoE group that gives all environmentalists a bad name.
Rick Kimber seems incapable of grasping that cutting refuse collection services and recycling are two separate issues. Had he bothered to acquaint himself with the facts, taken the trouble to read the council's internal paperwork, he would have learnt that the entire thrust of the exercise was to cut services. He does not seem to understand that recycling is about working with local residents, encouraging them to put the right rubbish in the right bins.
But then his ignorance on the subject is understandable as he does not live in the affected borough!
People are beginning to question what is Roland Dibbs on (the councillor responsible) as he seems to be on another planet. In the face of widespread public opposition and anger he claims the cut in service has public support, that there are no problems.
He claims there are no health problems.
Only an increase in rats, bad smells, flies, maggots, fly-tipping, back yard burning of waste, chronic longterm respiratory problems for bin men.
The World Health Organisation has recommended that in a temperate climate like England, and it is getting warmer, refuse should be collected at least weekly.
A pest control organisation has reported a 69% increase in rat infestation, which they put down to fast food takeaways and fortnightly refuse collections.
In a report to ministers January last year, Defra scientists warned of health problems, that it will lead to 'disease transmission in the home environment':
'There are significant gaps in knowledge to fully understand the implications of changes to collection routines. Providing alternate weekly collection to facilitate recycling schemes could result in accumulation of waste at households.'
'This could encourage vermin and insects into the home environment, which could potentially increase disease transmission routes.'
The report entitled 'Potential health risks to humans from birds, mammals and insects associated with UK waste management operations', recommends research in specified 'key areas'.
Dibbs in his arrogance and ignorance obviously knows best.
Dibbs claims a cut in service in the other councils in Hampshire has been a success. A success for who, the councils or the public?
This is not the view of residents in Eastleigh, the first in Hampshire to cut services. It is not the view in Alton or Bentley where there are problems of fly-tipping, maggots, flies, smells and back garden burning of rubbish, including plastics. It was not the view in Southampton, where having cut the service to fortnightly, the council was forced to revert back to weekly. Nor the view in Basingstoke, where the council was forced to capitulate before the cuts were introduced.
Dibbs claims there are savings on fuel costs.
The council has been encouraging people to put green waste out to be collected, not composted in the back garden. Instead of green waste being composted in the back garden, it is carted from Aldershot and Farnborough halfway across Hampshire to be composted in Basingstoke.
Then there will be the convoy of cars heading to the council rubbish tip causing further traffic congestion.
As usual, Dibbs is talking rubbish.
At a meeting of Council last week, Peter Sandy tried to ask questions of Dibbs. He was not allowed to ask his questions.
Welcome to the Stalinist state of the Rotten Borough of Rushmoor, where not only are the peasants not allowed a voice, but neither it seems are their legitimate dully elected representatives.
Par for the course, Dibbs has tried to gag bin men to stop then speaking out to the media.
At least Roland Dibbs has the appropriate portfolio in Rushmoor, ie rubbish, as all he does is spout rubbish.
Websites
http://www.thetruthinrushmoor.co.uk/
http://www.heureka.clara.net/surrey-hants/
http://www.crow.uk.com/
http://www.weeklywaste.com/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/AxetheBinTax/
http://www.recyclenow.com/
http://www.letsrecycle.com/info/localauth/league/2005ranked.jsp
References
Steve Doughty, Health alert that went unheeded over cuts in bin rounds, Daily Mail, 26 February 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=438435&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true
Marcus Mabberley, Councillors and dustman trash the trial, Aldershot News, 27 February 2007
http://www.aldershot.co.uk/news/2008/2008088/councillors_and_dustman_trash_the_trial
Keith Parkins, Natural Capitalism, www.heureka.clara.net, October 2000
http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/nat-cap.htm
Keith Parkins, A sense of the masses - a manifesto for the new revolution, www.heureka.clara.net, October 2003
http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/democracy.htm
Keith Parkins, Curitiba – Designing a sustainable city, www.heureka.clara.net, April 2006
http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/curitiba.htm
Keith Parkins, Recycling – a tale of two councils, Indymedia UK, 5 January 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/01/359341.html?c=on
Keith Parkins, Fortnightly rubbish collection creating a plague of rats, Indymedia UK, 8 January 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/01/359493.html
Keith Parkins, Recycling – the good, the bad and the ugly, Indymedia UK, 7 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/361715.html
Keith Parkins, Recycling in the Rotten Borough of Rushmoor goes from bad to worse, Indymedia UK, 9 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/361842.html
Keith Parkins, Green waste recycling, Indymedia UK, 12 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/362125.html
Keith Parkins, Recycling and waste reduction being used as an excuse to cut services, Indymedia UK, 19 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/362712.html
Keith Parkins, Axe the Bin Tax, Indymedia UK, 23 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/363167.html
Rebecca Connop Price, Bin trial gripes will get airing, Surrey-Hants Star, 22 February 2007
http://www.shstar.co.uk/news/2008/2008025/bin_trial_gripes_to_get_airing
Recycling 'risks binmen's lungs', BBC News on-line, 29 March 2003
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2891609.stm
'I urge residents involved in the trial to contact their councillors about this as they are having unfair pressure put on them.' -- Councillor David Clifford, Rotten Borough of Rushmoor
'The whole thing is going to blow up in their faces. It's in turmoil. I have residents coming to me wanting to know who's responsible for implementing it.' -- Councillor Peter Sandy, Rotten Borough of Rushmoor
'I'm quite pleased with how the trial is going at the moment and we have not had any significant hiccups.' -- Councillor Roland Dibbs, rubbish portfolio, Rotten Borough of Rushmoor
Introduction of fortnightly refuse collection on a so-called six-month trial basis in the Rotten Borough of Rushmoor, has after the first month, been hailed an unmitigated disaster by bin men, local residents, and the two honourable councillors, David Clifford and Peter Sandy, who are prepared to speak out on behalf of local residents and be counted.
David Clifford, who represents Farnborough, has described the cuts in service as 'rubbish'. He questions why the right-wing Tory-controlled council is doing neo-Labour's bidding.
Bin men who have to collect two-week-old decaying rubbish, have described fortnightly collection as 'disgusting'. The bin men have had to endure the wrath of extremely angry local residents who have been forced to participate in the six month so-called trial, including being pelted with rubbish.
Bins are overflowing, rubbish is strewn across the streets.
The bin men would be even more concerned if they were aware of research carried out in Norway and Sweden in 2003, which showed bin men were suffering inflammation of the respiratory tract from breathing in bioaerosols from two-week-old decaying putrescent waste. The Scandinavian researchers were of the view it would lead to longterm health problems.
One bin man, who does not wish to be named, has called for the experiment to be scrapped and a return to weekly collection throughout the borough.
David Clifford says he is not surprised that the bin men are against. He has spoken to people in neighbouring local authorities, and they are against. So far he has found only two people in favour.
He has done well, I have yet to find anyone in favour.
David Clifford says those who should be targeted are the supermarkets and others who produce the waste, not 'helpless' consumers, and questioned the council's agenda which is cutting costs, not reducing waste, improving the abysmal performance on recycling.
Peter Sandy, who represents Aldershot, who has been leafleting Aldershot and now intends to leaflet Farnborough, has had hundreds of replies every week, all expressing strong opposition. He has yet to meet a single person on the street who is in favour.
The only person it seems, apart from councillors and their officials, who has voiced support for the cut in service, is Rick Kimber, mouthpiece for BVFoE, a dysfunctional local FoE group that gives all environmentalists a bad name.
Rick Kimber seems incapable of grasping that cutting refuse collection services and recycling are two separate issues. Had he bothered to acquaint himself with the facts, taken the trouble to read the council's internal paperwork, he would have learnt that the entire thrust of the exercise was to cut services. He does not seem to understand that recycling is about working with local residents, encouraging them to put the right rubbish in the right bins.
But then his ignorance on the subject is understandable as he does not live in the affected borough!
People are beginning to question what is Roland Dibbs on (the councillor responsible) as he seems to be on another planet. In the face of widespread public opposition and anger he claims the cut in service has public support, that there are no problems.
He claims there are no health problems.
Only an increase in rats, bad smells, flies, maggots, fly-tipping, back yard burning of waste, chronic longterm respiratory problems for bin men.
The World Health Organisation has recommended that in a temperate climate like England, and it is getting warmer, refuse should be collected at least weekly.
A pest control organisation has reported a 69% increase in rat infestation, which they put down to fast food takeaways and fortnightly refuse collections.
In a report to ministers January last year, Defra scientists warned of health problems, that it will lead to 'disease transmission in the home environment':
'There are significant gaps in knowledge to fully understand the implications of changes to collection routines. Providing alternate weekly collection to facilitate recycling schemes could result in accumulation of waste at households.'
'This could encourage vermin and insects into the home environment, which could potentially increase disease transmission routes.'
The report entitled 'Potential health risks to humans from birds, mammals and insects associated with UK waste management operations', recommends research in specified 'key areas'.
Dibbs in his arrogance and ignorance obviously knows best.
Dibbs claims a cut in service in the other councils in Hampshire has been a success. A success for who, the councils or the public?
This is not the view of residents in Eastleigh, the first in Hampshire to cut services. It is not the view in Alton or Bentley where there are problems of fly-tipping, maggots, flies, smells and back garden burning of rubbish, including plastics. It was not the view in Southampton, where having cut the service to fortnightly, the council was forced to revert back to weekly. Nor the view in Basingstoke, where the council was forced to capitulate before the cuts were introduced.
Dibbs claims there are savings on fuel costs.
The council has been encouraging people to put green waste out to be collected, not composted in the back garden. Instead of green waste being composted in the back garden, it is carted from Aldershot and Farnborough halfway across Hampshire to be composted in Basingstoke.
Then there will be the convoy of cars heading to the council rubbish tip causing further traffic congestion.
As usual, Dibbs is talking rubbish.
At a meeting of Council last week, Peter Sandy tried to ask questions of Dibbs. He was not allowed to ask his questions.
Welcome to the Stalinist state of the Rotten Borough of Rushmoor, where not only are the peasants not allowed a voice, but neither it seems are their legitimate dully elected representatives.
Par for the course, Dibbs has tried to gag bin men to stop then speaking out to the media.
At least Roland Dibbs has the appropriate portfolio in Rushmoor, ie rubbish, as all he does is spout rubbish.
Websites
http://www.thetruthinrushmoor.co.uk/ http://www.heureka.clara.net/surrey-hants/ http://www.crow.uk.com/ http://www.weeklywaste.com/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/AxetheBinTax/ http://www.recyclenow.com/ http://www.letsrecycle.com/info/localauth/league/2005ranked.jsp References
Steve Doughty, Health alert that went unheeded over cuts in bin rounds, Daily Mail, 26 February 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=438435&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true Marcus Mabberley, Councillors and dustman trash the trial, Aldershot News, 27 February 2007
http://www.aldershot.co.uk/news/2008/2008088/councillors_and_dustman_trash_the_trial Keith Parkins, Natural Capitalism, www.heureka.clara.net, October 2000
http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/nat-cap.htm Keith Parkins, A sense of the masses - a manifesto for the new revolution, www.heureka.clara.net, October 2003
http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/democracy.htm Keith Parkins, Curitiba – Designing a sustainable city, www.heureka.clara.net, April 2006
http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/curitiba.htm Keith Parkins, Recycling – a tale of two councils, Indymedia UK, 5 January 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/01/359341.html?c=on Keith Parkins, Fortnightly rubbish collection creating a plague of rats, Indymedia UK, 8 January 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/01/359493.html Keith Parkins, Recycling – the good, the bad and the ugly, Indymedia UK, 7 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/361715.html Keith Parkins, Recycling in the Rotten Borough of Rushmoor goes from bad to worse, Indymedia UK, 9 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/361842.html Keith Parkins, Green waste recycling, Indymedia UK, 12 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/362125.html Keith Parkins, Recycling and waste reduction being used as an excuse to cut services, Indymedia UK, 19 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/362712.html Keith Parkins, Axe the Bin Tax, Indymedia UK, 23 February 2007
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/363167.html Rebecca Connop Price, Bin trial gripes will get airing, Surrey-Hants Star, 22 February 2007
http://www.shstar.co.uk/news/2008/2008025/bin_trial_gripes_to_get_airing Recycling 'risks binmen's lungs', BBC News on-line, 29 March 2003
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2891609.stm
Keith Parkins
Homepage:
http://www.heureka.clara.net/surrey-hants/
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Ignore the propaganda
27.02.2007 20:41
The only way the amount of rubbish will have doubled is if people have suddently started buying twice as much packaging and food they don't eat. Unlikely.
"Bin men who have to collect two-week-old decaying rubbish, have described fortnightly collection as 'disgusting'."
My bin has just been collected, as it is once a month. It had a nearly four week old chicken carcass in it, but it was not in the least disgusting.
If some people can't learn how to manage their bins properly why should others pay for their incompetence? The sooner these people are charged for the waste they produce, instead of being subsidised by others, the better.
"One bin man, who does not wish to be named, has called for the experiment to be scrapped and a return to weekly collection throughout the borough."
No doubt there still is at least a weekly collection, though what is collected each week varies. It is most unlikely that this one area will be that much different to other areas.
"David Clifford says those who should be targeted are the supermarkets and others who produce the waste, not 'helpless' consumers,"
I'm sure that many consumers don't take too kindly to being patronised by this man. Consumers are not helpless, for instance they decide to buy vegetables which come in a plastic box or vegetables that come lose. If they buy the ones in a plastic box they shouldn't complain about the box they bought.
A N Other
Nonsense
01.03.2007 12:19
Waste was collected weekly, it is now collected fortnightly. Simple maths (yes I know education in this country is bad) tells me there will be double the waste to collect on the day it is collected.
Waste that has had twice as long to decay is going to be in a more disgusting state. No one is in a better position to discover this than the bin men.
Try visiting a war zone where bloated bodies have been left to rot in the street!
Across the country there is a serious problem with maggots, rats, flies, smells.
In a temperate climate like England, then on health grounds alone, you collect waste at least once a week.
Or are we to go back to the Middle Ages, throw our slops out into the street, use a bucket to draw our water from the local ditch?
The major improvements in health were not down to the use of chemical intervention, it was due to improvements in publish health and sanitation.
David Clifford is not patronising the local community. He is stating an unpalatable fact, most of what we buy from supermarkets is enclosed in excess packaging. And it is the supermarkets we should target, not the hapless householder, who is at the end of the waste chain.
Yes, we should buy more off farmers markets, veg box schemes etc. In an ideal word, we would all buy organic, seasonal produce from the local farm, grow our own food, compost all our green waste in the back garden, buy goods that last our lifetime. But we achieve none of these worthy aims by punishing people by cutting services.
But even many of the farmers markets have not got the message. Far too much is shrink wrapped or in plastic bags, because the stallholders are too lazy to weigh out what you want and put it in a paper bag.
Smug comments on recycling along the lines 'mine is bigger than yours' get us nowhere.
We all need to generate less waste, recycle more. The only way to get the general population to do so is through education and support, not by cutting services.
Going from weekly to fortnightly collection has nothing to do with recycling, it is a simple exercise in cutting services.
Keith
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