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dodgy bullshit -
07.03.2007 09:25
What is DYR?
Deir Yassin Remembered
> Bewildered by their viciousness, I then started to monitor what is known as the Palestinian solidarity activity of
> the Jewish people in the UK. For the first time in my life I confronted the real meaning of Diaspora Jewish
> identity, for the first time I learned what segregation and Goy hating is all about. For the first time in my life I
> realised how devastating Jewish lobbying is. I summarised my impression in a satirical piece that was
> comprised of genuine quotes made by those very few JAZ
I know nothing about the people or groups you're talking about, but there's lots of informal and organised UK Jewish Palestinian solidarity, such as Jews for Justice for Palestinians.
You didn't confront the "real meaning of Diaspora Jewish identity", unless you are generalising and discounting all Jews, which would be anti-Semitic and just plain bullshit.
I'd hope you mean Zionist lobbying - Jewish lobbying just means lobbying by someone who is Jewish, for their local school not to close down, or whatever; ditto bullshit.
> Apparently, Greenstein has a lot to hide, his personal history is tainted with some unsavoury unlawful activity.
> Yet, this is not the issue here. I do not care much
Unlawful can be morally right. And if it's not the issue, don't fucking mention it (again and again)!
> I am tired of people being labelled Nazis, anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers
Whatever the truth of this case, when people are any of the above, they should be named as such.
> The solidarity movement should move forward, it is all about Palestine rather than about the four or five UK
> Marxist Jews who care solely about anti-Semitism.
Don't believe the SWP - it's not and what you think, it has moved forward.
whatever
clarification
07.03.2007 09:52
So, if a group of parents lobby to save their local school, they are involved in Jewish lobbying and non-Jewish lobbying?
If a group calls itself "Jews for/against X" I can see that might be a Jewish lobby. If an individual Jew joins a local campaign I don't think it would be on to start referring to them as a 'Jewish lobbyist'.
Eva Watt
virtual violence
07.03.2007 10:46
How do you read someones intention?
If your assertion is that violence doesn't require physical force, then I plain and simply don't agree with you.
I'd rather be photographed than hit over the head with a baseball bat.
How about you?
That was a rhetorical question btw. I'm not the least bit interested in carrying on a discussion where you insist that an egg is a potato.
photographic model
Tony Greenstein: on Gilad Atzmon
07.03.2007 12:05
dogma detector
sounds
07.03.2007 12:23
jesus2
i'm with stupid (ie Gilad Atzmon should not be on this newswire)
07.03.2007 17:43
GA's views are anti-Semitic fucking dodgy shit, and should be deleted from this newswire as against editorial guidelines.
whatever
'fucking dodgy shit'
07.03.2007 18:20
GA's views are anti-Semitic fucking dodgy shit, and should be deleted from this newswire as against editorial guidelines."
Hmm, I've looked at the article that Greenstein links to - it places the quote in context.
Which part of Atzmon's argument are you disputing?
dogma detector
this wouldn't be the first time
08.03.2007 02:58
It wouldn't be the first time the SWP allied themselves with anti-Israelis, which is quite ironic given how many Yids are in their ranks.
The Paki loving SWP are a joke, like Tony Greenstein.
biddly bees knees
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