So what the alterative do you oppose? Let the Taliban take over Afghanistan and let the two tribes of Iraq slug their guts out whiles the third sit by and watches? Mmmmm ending wars are so easy… A pause for thought.

Its so tough having to be benign and benevolent to the 'savages', doncha find Mmmmmm?

Imagine what nasty places Iraq and Afghanistan would be if we weren't helping to keep things sweet, eh?

That Saddam Hussein made it so dangerous, didn't he? Thank goodness we stopped the killing!

And who kick-started the Taliban?

Surely not western agents..........

As L of A points out, the ongoing occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan aren't exactly helping matters. Indeed, as long as imperialism continues to crush any real alternatives in the region, there's no prospect of the violence stopping any time soon.

What if there is no way of stopping the war from the part of small left wing groups in the UK? And we know the big left wing groups are not really an opposition. I mean, does it not seem strange that the Labour party leads the country to war and there are so many labour party people effectively leading the STWC. Does this not seem strange to anybody?? Is it not a fact that really, the only way the US/UK allied forces will leave Iraq or Afghanistan are if they are beaten militarily by Islamicists or Nationalists or whatever. We should still protest and do direct action (more direct! more action!) but it is clear that these things are not big factors that determine whether the state goes to war or not. Do not we all know this already? Does anyone really believe that the STWC demos really had much effect, either on British policy or on worldwide opinion? Yet, we should still protest to show our solidarity with the oppressed and those fighting back, and to educate and spread information.What if this is all a western anti war movement can do, the rest is up to those fighting back in Iraq or whatever?

...we will still be building up solidarity networks, which will help us in other struggles. The main aim must be to abolish capitalism itself, and create a world where war is impossible. The profit system causes wars, and the Stop The War coalition does not attack the profit system. This is why there is a need for direct action, especially with attacks on Iran in the (ahem) pipeline.

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