Global Warming On The Ropes
Paul Joseph Watson | 22.03.2007 14:00 | Climate Chaos | Ecology
Hysteria of climate cult begins to look increasingly inane
[according to the loons at prisonplanet that is! Please let this repost stand to show people the mindset of that commercial site]
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Global Warming On The Ropes
Hysteria of climate cult begins to look increasingly inane
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, March 19, 2007
The religion of man-made global warming has encountered a fierce backlash in recent weeks, partly as a result of Martin Durkin's excellent "Swindle" documentary, but also as a consequence of the sheer hysteria warming advocates are forced to attach their argument to when self-evident facts are in short supply.
A case in point was presidential candidate John Edward's screed last week, in which he said that global warming would make world war look like heaven. It being highly unlikely that Edwards fought in either of last century's world wars, he can only be fixing his premonition around an expected casualty figure of over 19 million human deaths as a result of a short term temperature increase.
The ironic truth, as highlighted in the "Swindle" documentary, is that Western enforced caps on carbon emissions, which are uniformly ignored by India and China, are preventing poverty stricken third world nations from achieving development by cutting off access to their huge natural resources. The measures employed to supposedly fight the negative impact of man-made global warming are in fact inflicting more death and disease on those already ravaged by famine and squalor.
Martin Durkin left a sufficient gap between his documentary and his next public statement to allow the frothing and maniacal vitriol to spew forth from the establishment left, aghast that their precious belief system had been challenged by sober evidence impenetrable by public relations stunts, rock concerts and photos of polar bears supposedly stranded on icebergs.
His response, carried by the Telegraph, noted with surprise not the volume of the attacks but their consistently feeble premise, including charges that Durkin had used an incorrect temperature graph when the program used the same one as the darlings of the climate cult, the IPCC.
"Too many journalists and scientists have built their careers on the global-warming alarm. Certain newspapers have staked their reputation on it. The death of this theory will be painful and ugly. But it will die. Because it is wrong, wrong, wrong," concludes Durkin.
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Another would-be President and establishment kingpin of the man-made circus, Al Gore, today appears before the Energy and Commerce Committee on Capitol Hill to make his case for further control freak measures to be clamped on our behavior in the name of saving mother earth.
Gore will face some very interesting questions and his reaction will go a long way to judging the real agenda behind the climate crowd.
"How can you continue to claim that global warming on Earth is primarily caused by mankind when other planets (Mars, Jupiter and Pluto) with no confirmed life forms and certainly no man-made industrial greenhouse gas emissions also show signs of global warming? Wouldn’t it make more sense that the sun is responsible for warming since it is the common denominator?"
"Do you think the earth is significantly overpopulated and that is a major contributor to your view of climate change. (If yes, what do you think is a sustainable population for the planet?)"
Gore is likely to try and evade the second question because any specific response will put him firmly in the same camp as the Dr. Pianka's of the world, who have openly advocated genocide to forcibly reduce world's population to a fraction of its current level.
The orthodoxy took another blow over the weekend when two of its own adherents, Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier, warned their own choir to stop preaching doomsday scenarios about global warming, recognizing that the hysteria has eroded a lot of credibility the man-made camp had built.
This admonition came too late because the fallacy of man-made global warming is already running out of steam for two reasons. One - the hysteria will only get louder because man-made advocates have a dearth of facts to base their alarmism on and always have to resort to fearmongering. Two - as we progress further into the 21st century and the much vaunted eco-apocalypse never arrives, the alarmists will begin to look increasingly stupid and untrustworthy.
It is at this point that man-made global warming will hold as much legitimacy as the 1970's global cooling scare does in hindsight, absolutely zero.
Hysteria of climate cult begins to look increasingly inane
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, March 19, 2007
The religion of man-made global warming has encountered a fierce backlash in recent weeks, partly as a result of Martin Durkin's excellent "Swindle" documentary, but also as a consequence of the sheer hysteria warming advocates are forced to attach their argument to when self-evident facts are in short supply.
A case in point was presidential candidate John Edward's screed last week, in which he said that global warming would make world war look like heaven. It being highly unlikely that Edwards fought in either of last century's world wars, he can only be fixing his premonition around an expected casualty figure of over 19 million human deaths as a result of a short term temperature increase.
The ironic truth, as highlighted in the "Swindle" documentary, is that Western enforced caps on carbon emissions, which are uniformly ignored by India and China, are preventing poverty stricken third world nations from achieving development by cutting off access to their huge natural resources. The measures employed to supposedly fight the negative impact of man-made global warming are in fact inflicting more death and disease on those already ravaged by famine and squalor.
Martin Durkin left a sufficient gap between his documentary and his next public statement to allow the frothing and maniacal vitriol to spew forth from the establishment left, aghast that their precious belief system had been challenged by sober evidence impenetrable by public relations stunts, rock concerts and photos of polar bears supposedly stranded on icebergs.
His response, carried by the Telegraph, noted with surprise not the volume of the attacks but their consistently feeble premise, including charges that Durkin had used an incorrect temperature graph when the program used the same one as the darlings of the climate cult, the IPCC.
"Too many journalists and scientists have built their careers on the global-warming alarm. Certain newspapers have staked their reputation on it. The death of this theory will be painful and ugly. But it will die. Because it is wrong, wrong, wrong," concludes Durkin.
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Another would-be President and establishment kingpin of the man-made circus, Al Gore, today appears before the Energy and Commerce Committee on Capitol Hill to make his case for further control freak measures to be clamped on our behavior in the name of saving mother earth.
Gore will face some very interesting questions and his reaction will go a long way to judging the real agenda behind the climate crowd.
"How can you continue to claim that global warming on Earth is primarily caused by mankind when other planets (Mars, Jupiter and Pluto) with no confirmed life forms and certainly no man-made industrial greenhouse gas emissions also show signs of global warming? Wouldn’t it make more sense that the sun is responsible for warming since it is the common denominator?"
"Do you think the earth is significantly overpopulated and that is a major contributor to your view of climate change. (If yes, what do you think is a sustainable population for the planet?)"
Gore is likely to try and evade the second question because any specific response will put him firmly in the same camp as the Dr. Pianka's of the world, who have openly advocated genocide to forcibly reduce world's population to a fraction of its current level.
The orthodoxy took another blow over the weekend when two of its own adherents, Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier, warned their own choir to stop preaching doomsday scenarios about global warming, recognizing that the hysteria has eroded a lot of credibility the man-made camp had built.
This admonition came too late because the fallacy of man-made global warming is already running out of steam for two reasons. One - the hysteria will only get louder because man-made advocates have a dearth of facts to base their alarmism on and always have to resort to fearmongering. Two - as we progress further into the 21st century and the much vaunted eco-apocalypse never arrives, the alarmists will begin to look increasingly stupid and untrustworthy.
It is at this point that man-made global warming will hold as much legitimacy as the 1970's global cooling scare does in hindsight, absolutely zero.
Paul Joseph Watson
Homepage:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/190307theropes.htm
Comments
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Remove this shit
22.03.2007 14:29
Not news
take this post and him away
22.03.2007 15:56
agree
Is not news brainwashed
22.03.2007 16:13
- what proportion of gas in the atmosphere is made up of C02?
- what proportion of that CO2 is man-made?
- how important is CO2 as a greenhouse gas?
- what proportion of CO2 must there be in the atmosphere for it to have a significant impact on global warming?
Let me help. Not News doesn't know. So, the useful idiot can be used by people a lot richer and a lot smarter than he is.
insidejob
please remove this
22.03.2007 16:52
crap
fuck prison planet
22.03.2007 18:31
c
The Dupes Are Seething With Righteous Indignation
22.03.2007 19:57
This scam, as another poster pointed out, is directed at the heart of the developing world. It is just another tactic being used by the developed world to keep billions of people in poverty. Just look what is happening in Africa. The people of Africa are being told to go "solar" and use wind to generate electricity - the two most expensive electricity-generating technologies. These poor Africans would barely be able to afford cheaper electricity-generating technologies - if it were available. But, they are being told that solar and wind are their only only options. And, all the while, the developed world burns petroleum-based fuels like there's no tomorrow.
Bram Devlin
Great insults!!! What of the basics?
22.03.2007 20:44
God, the intellectual precision of you people amaze me. I just can't get to your level. You see, simple minded me is still trying to work out the basics of man-made global warming. You know like:
- how much CO2 is there in the atmosphere?
- how much CO2 needs to be in the atmosphere to cause global warming?
- is CO2 the most important greenhouse gas?
That sort of thing. Heh, some people might even put these questions in capital letters!
But I bet you intellectual insulters know all this already. So, why don't you do us all a favour and tell us. Because, you know what you're talking about, don't you? No one should ever say that you talk crap.
insidejob
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22.03.2007 21:19
The vast majority of gas in the earth's atmosphere is CO2, and is natural, not man-made. But it doesn't take a big change to cause dramatic effects. Just as, in the human body, a small fluctuation in blood sugar levels can cause terrible sickness, so can small changes in an ecosystem cause dramatic changes. The Earth is in a kind of fever, caused by an excess of too much Carbon Dioxide, and other greenhouse gases.
Your question of how much CO2 has to be in the atmosphere to cause global warming is stupid, because any substantial amount of Carbon Dioxide can cause global warming. If Carbon Dioxide didn't warm the planet, we would all freeze to death. We need it. But like I said earlier, if it is too much, the world will heat up too much.
The whole science behind these sort of small changes causing dramatic consequences is called non-linear dynamics, or chaos theory.
Your last question is easy....yes, CO2 is the most important greenhouse gas, because there is so much of it. It is the main gas that traps heat in the atmosphere, and is the primary factor in keeping us warm.
It is not the most powerful greenhouse gas, which is perhaps what you meant to say. Methane is more powerful. Which is why some scientists have said that having a vegetarian diet does more to combat climate change than changing to a hybrid car. Because raising cattle produces a lot of methane, from all their farting, and the industry around it generates much more CO2 than that around vegetable agriculture.
That was easy....
Hermes
No shit Sherlock....
22.03.2007 21:56
So we cant turn down the central heating system, but wrapping yourself in a few more duvet's is not going to improve the situation!
and,,,,, by the way, this is indymedia UK we dont drink 'kool aid' over here.... re-assess the zombie remark......... mmmmm mcD...mmmmmmm coke....mmmmmm bush......... mmmmmm 9/11 Iraq.......mmmmmm get a brain
Silent Bob
Solar and Celestial Causes of Global Warming
22.03.2007 23:19
Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD
Homepage:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller21.html
Environmentalists - still brainwashed
23.03.2007 01:34
Are we really supposed to believe that 0.1% (or indeed1%) of the atmosphere made up of CO2 is going to create climate chaos?
Why don't you environmentalists say that over and over again when you start haranguing people about man-made warming: a little more than the 0.1% of CO2 in the atmosphere is going to bring us all disaster...
THE GEOLOGIC RECORD AND CLIMATE CHANGE
By Tim Patterson : 01 Jan 2005
The following remarks were delivered at the Risk: Regulation and Reality Conference by Dr. Tim Patterson, Professor of Geology at Carleton University. The conference was co-hosted by Tech Central Station and was held on October 7, 2004 in Toronto, ON.
I am a Quaternary geologist by profession. That is to say that my research interests are focused primarily on about the last 2 million years of Earth's history. An important aspect of my research is assessing past climate conditions. Thus I am also a paleoclimatologist. Earth's climate has varied considerably during the past 2 million years or so as indicated by the more than 33 glacial major advances and retreats that have occurred through this interval. Based on geologic paleoclimatic data it is obvious that climate is and has been very variable. Thus the only real constant about climate is change. It changes continually…
…But if the sun is important to climate change what role do greenhouse gases play then? Greenhouse gases are really important. THEY MAKE UP SOMETHING LIKE 0.1 PERCENT OF OUR ATMOSPHERE AND ARE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THE EARTH'S BIOSPHERE. If you listen to the rhetoric produced by some environmental groups one would come away with the understanding that , all greenhouse gases must be expunged. However, without them, the earth would be uninhabitable; it'd be too cold...
...THE NUMBER ONE GREENHOUSE GAS IS ACTUALLY WATER VAPOR. IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 98 PERCENT, BY VOLUME, OF ALL GREENHOUSE GASES. I like the way that my colleague, Jan Veizer at the University of Ottawa, a world-renowned expert on the carbon cycle, lists the relative importance of greenhouse gases when he speaks on the topic. He points out that the number one greenhouse gas is water vapor, the number two greenhouse gas is water vapor, the number three greenhouse gas is water vapor, the number four greenhouse gas is water vapor and CO2 is a distant fifth. Of course, this list is somewhat facetious as there is only one type of water vapor. However, he lists the relative importance of greenhouse gases this was to indicate just how insignificant the tiny carbon dioxide cycle is to the water vapor cycle that it piggybacks on. To give you an example of this comparison lets consider the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. IN THE 19TH CENTURY, WHEN THE WORLD WAS RELATIVELY UNINDUSTRIALIZED THE LEVEL OF CO2 IN THE ATMOSPHERE STOOD AT AROUND 285 (parts per million) PPM. BY 2003 THE LEVEL OF CO2 IN THE ATMOSPHERE, PRIMARILY THE RESULT OF INDUSTRIALIZATION AND LAND USE CHANGES, STOOD AT 376 PPM.
insidejob
...
23.03.2007 13:21
The Earth is a very complicated system. You can't just do what you like and expect the Earth to absorb it. If you farm in an unsustainable way, you destroy the fertility of the soil, and it is dead. We operate under the impression that somehow the ecosystem can just absorb anything we throw at it.
Like blood sugar levels, we don't want too little or too much. The idea that we have to eliminate all greenhouse gases like you said in the article is obviously not an idea of anybody, but the Earth generates enough of it's own greenhouse gases, in the form of water vapour, carbon dioxide and methane. When we start pumping out man-made greenhouse gases, it is like a man with a bad diet, eating too many sugary things. Except the consequences in this case are more severe.
The people who deny climate change are like the alcoholic who is developing liver problems, who does't believe the doctor when he tells him that drinking is causing the problem. And he continues doing what he wants. Except in this case it isn't just the life of one person, it is the lives of everybody that are at stake.
The scientists came to the conclusion that global warming is highly likely to have been caused by human activity, and these scientists are in the majority. What are the consequences if we don't take their advice, and they are right? We will have rising sea levels, starvation, famine, disease, war....serious problems that would threaten all of civilisation.
What are the consequences if we listen to them, and they turn out to be wrong? Well, maybe we won't be dependent on oil anymore, because we'll have switched to renewable energy. Maybe the roads of the cities won't smell so disgusting, because we'll have replaced dirty petrol cars with clean hydrogen fuel. Maybe a load of people in oil companies will have to find different jobs. Well, good. Maybe that will mean less strife in the middle-east, Nigeria, etc. People will all be using solar panels and wind turbines to generate their own electricity. Excellent, they will be more economically self-dependent. We'll develop technologies that we'll need to develop anyway for when the oil runs out. Wonderful. Climate change is not the only reason to take their advice, but it seems to be the most important one.
So let's make a rational decision here. Do we listen to the advice of the vast majority of renowned scientists, the good doctor, who recommends we cut down fossil fuels in the case that we might ALL DIE. Or do we listen to the minority of scientists, some of whom are paid by oil companies, and who, like the Tobaccaco company, want us to keep with a bad habit, the only real benefit of which is to keep them all filthy rich.
Hermes
Big Joke!
23.03.2007 13:22
Think about it. Perhaps they think that by giving God a really good belly laugh the decision to cancel the Reurrection and not bother with an afterlife will be reversed.
Methane is far more diabolical than CO2 - once the CO2 makes things warm enough to start the Methane being released (which it as) then Methane will make a positive feedback to push the temperature much higher. Too high to grow food.
Can you eat money? Or share certificates? Or houses?
Ilyan
Environmentalists - sounds like loonies
24.03.2007 11:46
So, let me get this straight. CO2 is a bit like cyanide so that it doesn't need much to kill you if it's in your system. Like 200, 300 or 150 parts per million. But, we don't want to get rid of all cyanide in your system because we need it to stay alive.
I'm confused.
I asked two people who support the man-made global warming theory to guess the proportion of gas in the atmosphere is CO2. They both said 25%. Not 1% or 0.1% or 0.54% but 25%. Of course, they'd say that because the politicians and environmentalists have been telling them that we pumping out so much CO2 that it's going to kill us. And of course it sounds stupid to say 1%.
Which is why Hermes and the rest of them have so much difficulty is saying that 1 or 2% of the atmosphere is going to create disaster and chaos. Because most people would say that you sound like a looney.
insidejob
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24.03.2007 14:46
If you don't understand how tiny quantities can have big effects, then you obviously don't understand anything about science, or even cooking. How much salt do you need to add to your food, in order to completely change the flavour? How much sugar do you need to put into your tea?
CO2 is not like cyanide, obviously, because it isn't a deadly poison. I think the analogy with blood sugar is better. The world needs some, but not too much.
Hermes
Befor the clean air act
25.03.2007 12:47
How come
Ummmm
25.03.2007 21:06
And how come now we have all this extra carbon dioxide being produced, we don't have snow every winter any more. Is it all a big coincidence? That somehow, the 'cycle of warming' just happened to coincide with a time when we were pumping so many extra greenhouse gases into the atmosphere?
Hermes
Dimming
25.03.2007 21:26
By the way, we are responsible for 0.01% out of 0.05% co2 in the atmosphere, but this is definitely enough to have the current half a degree temperature increase. Most water vapour is not in complete gaseous form but in droplet form, creating reflective clouds. If water vapour gas was i the same quantities as co2, it would be a lot hotter today...
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