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Al-Qaeda car bomb false flag MI5 garbage

dh | 29.06.2007 22:21

More propaganda bullshit from the propaganda mill. Operation Gladio writ large once again over the streets of the capital
A compilation of views from the far seers

Oh we need you now!
Oh we need you now!


Its amazing how Gordon Brown comes into power and all of sudden theres a terror threat, coincidence??

Wonder what policies Gordon wants to introduce??

I'm just glad he had the brains not to explode the device and save innocent lives for a change.

Maybe I'm completely off the mark too early to say have to wait and see the aftermath and investigation.

But false flag terror is the sea on which the Brown ship sails. The PM has very little say any more.

One of the NWO's weakest arguments is that Al-CIAda's political aims can be furthered by killing innocent civillians. Of course that has the opposite effect. As any real freedom fighter knows well.

So here we have another attempt by nasty Asian types to get white Londoners to hate them even more. It's the weakest and most farcical aspect to apparent 'meme' incidents like this.

What a surreal, nightmare these little Hitlers are ushering in. Could it be the Brown leadership will be characterised by even more fear-mongering mind control than before? If so we have to highlight the fundamental illogic in killing those who are their potential anti-NWO allies.

These racist anti-terror police have elbowed their way in to a monopoly on public fear incidents. They are trusted absolutely by the press but never accountable for even one of the lies that they tell. If anyone hasn't already seen it ge hold of a DVD of Troy Kennedy-Martin's BBC drama "The Edge of Darkness" which goes about as far as anyone has into this subject.

Maybe we should have a report by the Health and Safety Executive into how many medals those who defuse pretend bombs should be awarded? All I can find myself thinking this morning is "double the MI5 budget!" they are our saviours!! Who can stand up to these creatures?

A real terrorist would hit the centres of corrupt power and/or the pockets of the city slickers and merchant bankers, such as the Bishopsgate, Stock Exchange and Canary Wharf bombs in the 1990s.

Perhaps the unseen forces are testing their new underling, maybe they have sent a little shot across his bows and keep him on his toes. Come on PM sort out this awful mess before we are overrun with terrorists. Chop Chop.

Any bets, there will be no chain of custody for this car, no insurance, no road tax, and it will have been brought with cash from a second hand car dealer months ago, possibly being resold privately in a newspaper by an Asian who is arrested and then released after months of interrogation.

MI5 can congratulate themselves because they have found their own bomb, just remember the bearded SAS soldiers arrested in Iraq, driving around in a car full of explosives dressed as Arabs. Say no more except there is nothing like a FALSE FLAG or the threat of a FALSE FLAG to launch the new prime minister into power. These people are sick and evil.

What a shame, with all those hundreds of thousands of CCTV cameras in London, we dont seem to have captured any decent image of the gladio operatives, er.. i mean islamic maniacs who are doing it because they hate my freedom.

What happened to those high tech CCTV cams, linked to those 'secret' underground bunkers that beep beep when a dodgy car enters its zone of stalking? does that mean the car was legitimate, papers tax etc? or if it wasant legitimate where were those stealth keystones cops?

when you have these cameras primed and some thug waiting to pounce and follow your every move for miles for dropping a cigerette end or macdonalds carton, surely, surely this incident in the heart of London aroused a teeny weeny bit of suspicion?

Will we have another De Menezes bout of lies about a, dark skinned man seen hurdling obstacles in a thick coat fleeing the scene, with a box of wires protruding as he disappeared into the night, and this is a clear indication that one of the 200 al qaedaers cells are now busily reverting to plan B.

All thats missing is the boot was filled with jerry cans full of kerosene that would have melted surrounding buildings causing instant ''building falling into its own footprints''.

Still this is an ideal team for my new protector and man of truth and honour Brown, to show us all what a great shepherd he is.

2 gas bottles and 6oz of roundhead nails, al qaedas are certainly not the outfit they used to be, from single handedly standing the whole USA airforce to stand down, and bypassing the pentagons anti missile defence from a cave, and being the most sophistcated terror network ever seen, to crashing a merc on a deserted road, armed with 2 gas bottles and 6oz of nails.

Can you please stalk me more, and take more of my freedoms please, as i am now sleeping even more soundly knowing that by taking away all my freedoms bit by bit, i will be free.

We have gone from, the merc swerving into some bins and the driver legging it

But not before putting one of his gas bottles behind the car as if using it as a 'cone' warning

To the bouncers approaching the car and looking in the boot and signalling the alarm.

We then have the conspiracy theory turning into, the car was parked up nicely, and along came an ambulance, saw some smoke, and alerted the local keystones who came running, truncheons in hand.

One would have thought these likely Gladio operatives would be better planners than this, it would appear its some crazy ill thought out al qaedas doing it again false flag, judging from the concocted version of events we have been subjected to thus far. Almost as an after thought to, hey Gordo's the new primey, lets set up one of those al qaedas dun it cluedo games, so Gordy can show us how good and qualified he is

BBC 6 O'clock News is a wonderful programme. They just said that "CCTV will help this investigation just as it did with the 7/7 bombers"!

Hmmm.

Plus, why on earth are the journos not asking why there was an intelligence vacuum YET AGAIN?

90 day detention without trial is on the agenda.
The 'right' climate has to be created.
Just like climate change justifies ever more punitive taxes and loss of services so a climate of terror justifies ever more repressive measures.

The racist nature of this campaign is so blatant that the Rothermere press have printed pictures of discos and bars implying muslims want to blow them up and that a terror plot of enormous proportions was averted.

If they continue along this path ...tourism will go down the pan.
How long will all businesses put up with it?

Interesting that Al Ukqaeda have to keep re-inventing the whee... er IED. No sooner than they discover the devastating chapati flower SADM, it's off to liquids and planes. Now gas canisters and nails. Shall we start a sweepstake on what their next devilish munition will be? Rhubarb and custard is my entry.


dh
- e-mail: wy911@goowy.com

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Cui Bono?

29.06.2007 22:31

A couple of reposted blog entries from Craig Murray:  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/06/374688.html

HyperLink


Crock

29.06.2007 22:54

Yup I appreciate that this is running on another crock of shit thread
Surely most people must see through it by now.
And there ought to be constant exposure of the repetitive lies over this channel.
Well done!

dh


Title of this comment

29.06.2007 23:25

Yet again we find ourselves being manipulated by lies and fear mongering. Brown ... Blair .... Thatcher ... does it matter who the friggin' lead is - they are each interested in wielding final and total control. CCTV cameras need to come down, the fundamental rift of trust needs to be repaired ... and for many, myself included, this is not going to be a whitewash, a laundry list replete with empty platitudes to amuse our politicians in their autumnal years. We need action - we need to wipe off the scum that has accumulated , coagulated at the head of the country. He claims he listens, but let's face it, he only listens to the messaages that are fed him and which fit his agenda.

Now, car bombs in London ... oh dear! How feeble an attempt this is to whip some fear up among Londoners ... what crap really. Who gives a shit? The moment that this came on the news it smelt rotten, like a 3 day old pile of pooh: rotten and infested with maggots.


Brown: we ... no , I .... had expected so much more of you than this. And if it isn't your doing, by sleight of hand or otherwise, then show your genitalia and call time on the bullshit marketed by the Secret Services and Mi5. because WE the PEOPLE are not amused!!!

cassandra


Hi Cassandra, how rotten is this?

30.06.2007 00:00

You've detected how rotten this is
Gordon is not a favoured child such as Blair was
Give it a few months and the whole economy collapses
Put it in gold or something - anything whereby they cant take your whole wealth, or mostly debt- back.
Thats the whole meaning of Brown
To take it off you

dh


I would be laughing ...

30.06.2007 08:46

... if it were funny.

But top marks dh, an amusing, refreshing & chilling piece.

It's bound to come to a head soon and then we will see who is wearing the grime 'I told you so T-shirt'.

I just hope that my feeling that they have - ultimately - bitten off more than they can chew is based more on instinct than wishing.

[one off] The best thing to do is keep on appreciating life and beauty, not buying into the fear and hate.

jackslucid
mail e-mail: jackslucid@hotmail.com


The IRA

30.06.2007 12:33

would have blew the heart out of the west end and the next day we would have all gone about our business as usual.Without new laws or cameras.We were not frightend then and we are not now.

Joe


Petrol :"The next devilish munition"

30.06.2007 16:38

Judging from the blazing Cherokee in Glasgow Airport Int. Arrivals.

Have 'Plane Stupid' finally gone militant ? These are two manic idiots rather than dangerous terrorists by the sounds of things, real terrorists prepared to die could easily have got their vehicle onto the runway. Seemingly it was five minutes before the second police officer arrived - this at a time of 'critical' alerts.

dna


MI5 false flag....?

30.06.2007 21:46

So dh, given the events that have happened in Glasgow since you posted the crap above I was wondering if you are prepared to retract your conspiracy theorys? Or are we to believe that MI5 got two young men (described of Asian appearance) to try and martyr themselves at Glasgow airport? Such dedication by MI5's agents...

One witness (an airport worker) has just told BBC News that one of the men fought the Police shouting 'Allah' while on fire. Was this witness an MI5 agent as well? And then there is the hundreds of witnesses who saw the failed attack. Are they all spooks too?

Hope this leaves you and other conspiraloons in no doubt as to why some of us think that this kind of shit should be hidden as routine from the newswire. It is afterall supposed to be a newswire rather than a forum for fantasists.

P.S. Hope you feel as stupid as you look.



Guido


certainty vs spin

30.06.2007 22:50

It seems to me Guido that you are just as guilty as dh of using the story to justify your own worldview.

You assert a link between London and Glasgow, and yet you have no evidence. Looking at Google news at the moment - this is from the latest story:

""I can confirm that we believe the incident at Glasgow airport is linked to the events in London yesterday," Rae said. "There are clearly similarities and we can confirm that this is being treated as a terrorist incident.""
 http://www.tri-cityherald.com/24hour/world/v-world/story/3650955p-13001655c.html

There is suspicion, and there are supposedly similarities - but at the same time, you may have to concede the fact that the London drivers have not been found, whilst there are suggestions that at least one of the Glasgow detainees had a 'suicide belt'.

You may also recall that there was no direct link between 7/7 and 21/7, other than that the planners of 21/7 were spurred on by the reports of 7/7.

The report I quoted from goes on to offer us this:

"A British government security official said the methods used in the airport attack and Friday's thwarted plots were similar, with all three vehicles carrying large quantities of flammable liquid.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information."

Thats an anonymous source planting information in the media, wouldn't you think?

I find it quite alarming that you are certain enough of your facts to feel justified in censoring someone elses take on the matter.

ftp


MC or idiots

30.06.2007 23:02

They're either externally programmed or total fucking self-programming idiots.
Undoubtedly some self-termed muslims have been taken in and believe the false crap
Sheep are self deprecating sheep and convinced of their worthlessness and non-viability via trauma-based mind control, the internet wrong-handers or the telly
What a stupid performance as per usual from so-called dedicated terrorists
See through it

dh


The link

30.06.2007 23:14

"You may also recall that there was no direct link between 7/7 and 21/7, other than that the planners of 21/7 were spurred on by the reports of 7/7."

Oh yes there was ftp,MI6 asset currently awaiting deportation to the US, Haroon Rashid Aswat, connected to both events, of no interest to Scotland Yard
They haven't even questioned him

dh
mail e-mail: wy911@goowy.com
- Homepage: http://westyorkshiretruth.aceboard.com


Link

30.06.2007 23:38

FTP said 'You assert a link between London and Glasgow, and yet you have no evidence.'

According to News 24 who have been speaking to witnesses in Glasgow there was large amounts of petrol used as well as gas cannisters in the vehicle that failed to ram through the front doors of the airport and into the terminal. The mobile phone footage shown repeatedly shows more than one explosion and jets of flame coming from the burning wreck suggesting cannisters in the vehicle. The man fighting the Police while screaming Allah was on fire all over his body suggesting some kind of accelerant like...well petrol. Though determined these people are clearly complete amateurs. So 4 obvious similarites:

1) Vehicle used
2) Petrol used
3) Gas cannisters
4) Failure of badly planned mission by people who are clearly very angry but not very efficient.

Or are we to believe that an MI5 'false flag' operation inspired two pissed off Muslims to do the same thing with equally embarrasing results just a few hours later. And where is the evidence linking MI5 or any other state asset to what happened on Thursday as the title of this post proclaims? Its just speculation and definately not news.

One more thing. If the forces of darkness were to conduct a false flag operation surely they would do something more impressive than a stunt that involves some cars and a bit of shopping? These are after all the same security services that fought a 30 year dirty war against the IRA the details of which are only coming to light now.

Guido


ricin?

30.06.2007 23:57

I'm sure we're supposed to believe that al-Qaida done it at Iran's behest.

Personally I don't believe that. Nor do I think I know what really happened.

ftp


Guys,

01.07.2007 01:51

If a MI5 or another group of that kind does a black-op, it does it properly usually.

Now the timing of those attacks appears so fishy to me that I do not exclude the hypothesis that the people who did that got activated by MI5.

In a sense one could even say that the knighting of Rushdie might have possibly been a strong catalyst for those events, this on top of the slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan for which Blair seems to have been rewarded.

styx


Yawn...

01.07.2007 12:06

ftp said: "Nor do I think I know what really happened."

Neither do I, nor have I claimed anywhere above that what I have said is solid fact. Merely a response to the original post which should have been hidden. A response based on the availible information.

Which brings me to my next question: As one of our newswire police perhaps you can explain why the original post is 'news'. If you can't perhaps you can explain why it has not been removed? You are after all very efficient at hiding just about everything else?

Guido


Guidelines

01.07.2007 12:43

Which guideline do you assert it broke? And why not use your admin log-in to hide it if it has breached a guideline?

I'd prefer you to take your personal attacks to the appropriate forum ie the list, or what about discussing it with me next time you see me?

In terms of 'policing' - as an admin I report all my hiddens to the newswire - its all open and transparent, and of course open to challenge.

Neither you, I nor dh know what happened - and I believe he acknowledges that in the 4th paragraph of his original post.

As far as I can see, the major difference between our positions is that you have far more faith than I in the words of the police, and the way that they are relayed in the corporate media.

From my perspective, neither has been very reliable in the past, and I see no reason to believe that they've suddenly become honourable and trustworthy.







ftp


Rhubarb and Custard - spot on!

01.07.2007 12:49

If Orwells 1984 had been required reading in schools for the last 40 years, none of this fear and loathing nonsense would ever have got a toehold. Judging by (massively moderated!) BBC 'have your say' comments, we need millions more CCTV units and millions more thought police so we can 'lose our liberties to secure freedom' as one interviewee was caught saying in 'Terrorstorm'. Doublespeak or what?

I think all seekers of truth should check out this MSNBC clip on YouTube:-

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK5-jIfOBjQ wherein "ex-CIA agent Larry Johnson joined Keith Olbermann to underscore the truth behind the [London] madness"

Meanwhile:-
"The current NIST working collapse hypothesis for WTC 7 is described in the June 2004 Progress Report on the Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster (Volume 1, page 17, as well as Appendix L), as follows:

An initial local failure occurred at the lower floors (below floor 13) of the building due to fire and/or debris induced structural damage of a critical column (the initiating event) which supported a large span floor bay with an area of about 2,000 square feet;" Blah blah blah.

---

"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you."

-Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

-----

9/11 was an inside job - new evidence shows presence of thermate - www.911mysteries.com - minutes 47-50 in their excellent focused DVD - sections available on YouTube.

www.patriotsquestion911.com

and MI6 have some questions to answer about 7/7 too...

Thermate


Response to Dr . 'WOW'

01.07.2007 12:56

"Are there no pissed off Muslim in the UK who would take to the streets with even the most simple of IED?"

None who would trash a decent Merc in the process, no...

This has Gladio written all over it - for those who really can be bothered to figure out what's going on.

I await some further Brownian motion...

Thermate


"this kind of shit should be hidden as routine from the newswire"...

01.07.2007 13:39

Ah, so Guido would censor Indymedia? Are you finding that matters are slipping out of your control?

Is your name Guido or Gladio?

Bon Chance


Yawn...2

01.07.2007 13:49

"As far as I can see, the major difference between our positions is that you have far more faith than I in the words of the police, and the way that they are relayed in the corporate media.

From my perspective, neither has been very reliable in the past, and I see no reason to believe that they've suddenly become honourable and trustworthy."

I have no faith in the Police whatsoever, as well you know. Nor have I quoted them anywhere above. I have merely refered to the eyewitness accounts from Glasgow and London (who were not Police) and the mobile phone/camcorder footage taken by holiday makers (also not Police).

The reason I think that the paranoid rant above should be hidden is because it breaches the 'non news' and 'innacurate' guidelines. It also encourages other conpiracy theorists to turn the IMC UK newswire into their own debating forum/advertising space. See posts by 'Thermate' above for a topical example. I apoligise if you think I was personally attacking you, that was not my intention or the case. As you know I have the greatest respect for the time that you and others commit to maintaining IMC UK. The reason, as I have explained in the past, why I do not generally enter the shark infested waters of moderation is because I barely have time to get my own reports up and can't be everywhere at once.

Hugs

Guido


Nothing new

01.07.2007 15:12

Hitler do the same with Reichstag burning and Gleiwitz radiostation provocation. They need Evil.

Tom


not bad at all

01.07.2007 15:24

not bad at all, but (there's always one of those), you must not forget that the media barons are amongst the shadows that are pulling Browns strings and will blow the reports out of all proportions anyway. none of the mainstream media can be trusted.
we've seen B. Liar depart, hes past his usefulness, will, his mate make us discover that andrenalin is indeed brown?

P S
how comes those millions of high tech cameras never work when they needed most? are they equipped with automatic "turn off at bullshit time" switch?

Len
mail e-mail: len@lbduk.org
- Homepage: http://www.lbduk.org


my last off topic response to Guido

01.07.2007 18:18

Well thanks for clearing that up Guido. I think I should repond to this:

" As one of our newswire police perhaps you can explain why the original post is 'news'. If you can't perhaps you can explain why it has not been removed? You are after all very efficient at hiding just about everything else?"

I think that the article cannot be described as non news, as it is about something that happened yesterday. I am not the only person who hides articles, but the ones I do hide are generally ones I feel certain breach the guidelines, or ones that have been discussed in IRC and agreement has been reached to hide.

I'm not in the habit of hiding stuff that I don't feel sure about, and I don't feel sure about this one. I have raised it in IRC and the only responses so far have not favoured hiding. As the author clearly states that he doesn't know what happened, the article is his thoughts on what may be happening - and I'm not in a position to judge his accuracy.

Its clear to me that we do need people putting time into moderating the wire, and personal circumstances mean that I have time available to help out. But I have never claimed that I will hide every offending article, and often I miss stuff.

In this case I'm not in favour of hiding.

ftp


US Warned of Attacks 2 weeks ago

01.07.2007 21:12

08:48 , 07.01.07
Ynet.com (Israel's Yedioth Ahronoth Internet Site) ynetnews.com

Terror Attack

Glasgow airport Photo: Reuters

US warned of Glasgow attack 2 weeks ago - report

Security official says Washington received warnings of possible terror attacks against airports in Scotland two weeks ago
Ynet

US security officials received warnings two weeks ago of a possible terror attack against "airport infrastructure or aircraft" in Glasgow, a senior official told ABCNews.com on Saturday.

The intelligence reports also warned that airports and aircraft in the Czech Republic would be the targets of attacks by al-Qaeda terrorists.

An SUV laden with explosive materials went ablaze at Glasgow airport on Saturday after its two occupants, apparently al-Qaeda operatives, crashed it into entrance doors in the main terminal.

The incident occurred a day after police in London defused two cars laden with gas canisters, gasoline and nails in two bustling areas in the capital.

US officials told ABC that the warnings about a possible terror attack in Scotland were kept secret for operational reasons.

US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the US would not raise the level of alert because there was no specific intelligence pointing to imminent terror attacks in the US.

american


Thanks

01.07.2007 21:58

ftp,
my main point is that we repeatedly get served up apparently, to those of us who see it that way, utterly surrealist and absurdist scenarios.
The court case where chapati flour is the chief explosive, now gas cylinders, nails and petrol.
Strangely incompetent bufoonery, of extremely black comedy proportions apparent in the latest events. And we're supposed to believe what we're told and be afraid, very afraid!!!!
This is news, albeit some version of tabloid and main media interpretive news.
If the establishment media is saying shit yourself in fear at the extreme threat and accept all the impositions that result, little sheep to the slaughter, then surely the riposte from the independent media should be that we'd piss our pants laughing if the whole sham being presented wasn't so very very serious.
Strength in humour, resistance by exposure - they can no longer hide, they evidence themselves repeatedly in the very absurdity of what they present for us to believe
There are those in the independent media who have a place for everything, and everything in its place, who never get out more than they can put away, who line public toilet seats with toilet paper, who try to protect their fragile socialised worldview by trying to hide and censor anything that threatens it

dh


Thanks american

01.07.2007 22:08

There you have it you see.
A pre-arranged event.
Do you think the US intelligence get this stuff from the mythical internet "chatter"
What crap is the "chatter" thesis
Do you think the analysts at Menwith and elsewhere cannot zone in on pertinent communications.
No the US intelligence knew of this because it was all part of planned events using programmed dupes in keystone cops capers

dh


so..

03.07.2007 20:48

Let's just get this clear:

The immensely powerful intelligence services, who after all 'carried out 9/11' and appear to have got away with it, arranged for a set of blokes to carry out a shoddy terrorist effort leaving so many clues they were bound to get caught (or else invented a set of blokes etc., etc.), one of them pouring petrol on himself and setting fire to it in the process. (Jeepers they must pay their stooges well !).
Their US branch also publicly warned their UK branch of this in advance, wanting for some reason to create an impression of incompetence or conspiracy...

Or did a small group of very pissed-off muslim extremists, launch a determined but unsophisticated attempt to kill people and embarass Brown on his coronation..

Trying to be objective, which sounds more plausible?

Btw, if you don't believe in the eye-witnesses, do you believe in Glasgow airport? After all, these fiends are apparently capable of anything...

Phats

phats


good comment phats

03.07.2007 23:22

Only the pissed off Muslim thesis doesn't hold when you're talking nicely paid doctors living in suburbia
Why the fuck would you want to burn yourself alive?
The thesis doesn't hold
Get a grip.
This is a shite story
Paul

dh


Welcome back

04.07.2007 00:00

Hi phats
Seems like you are putting out the same old shite everywhere
Still, that's ok The whole scenario hums
The most important thing is that you shouldn't believe the official story and proceed from there

dh


Cryptome

06.07.2007 12:33

Cryptome is linking to this embarrassing trash!

 http://cryptome.org/mi6-garbage.htm

Ouch!


getting to know you

25.11.2007 16:13

I think we all would like to view some of the CAMERA tech. that makes finding some of the guys that hate my freedom I think that citizens like my self whom are all BONIFIED PATRIOTS and have the time to sit and watch ..can be of immense help ,so what say you ?

Ron Sorino
mail e-mail: ronsorino@msn.com
- Homepage: http://don't know


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