Skip to content or view mobile version

Home | Mobile | Editorial | Mission | Privacy | About | Contact | Help | Security | Support

A network of individuals, independent and alternative media activists and organisations, offering grassroots, non-corporate, non-commercial coverage of important social and political issues.

Recent attacks: a gift/slap from old friends?

Domiphen Bromide | 02.07.2007 17:18 | Terror War

The latest news on the Glasgow Airport suspects is that one is Jordanian and the other is Iraqi. The Jordanian connection could prove to be quite embarrassing or useful depending how it plays out or is exploited.

Things could be about to get very strange in the investigations into the recent bungled bombings it transpires that one suspect is apparently Jordanian:

 http://www.startribune.com/722/story/1280194.html

If a Jordanian al Qaeda link is established/fabricated (and given the sloppiness of the attacks the involvement of real al Qaeda commander would be difficult to believe), it will likely point to this guy:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Bakri_Mohammed

He was closely tied to the Al-Muhajiroun and the so-called Finsbury Park al Qaeda cell and is believed by some journalists to have been brought to the UK by Hm Gvt. with the explicit task of recruiting mujahadin for the Balkans. He was a cohort of Abu Hamzu and Aswat- all three are believed to be the real brains/fixers behind 7/7. There is indecision whether or not, as with his close colleagues, his role was double agent or flat out MI5/6/CIA asset.

After 7/7 there seems to have been a bit of a fall out of sorts, but the backlash was rather half-hearted if not downright suspicious.

In the course of Operation Crevice he was allowed to skip the country and his re-entry from Jordan was blocked. Aswat was also conveniently unobtainable and Blair seemingly blanked an offer of extradition when the US picked him up. Abu Hamza was prosecuted under newly cooked up "religious hatred", the theory being, so as to avoid terrorism charges that could have brought to light his relationship with the intelligence community.

Make of it what you will, but a Jordanian angle to this will be controversial.

 http://nafeez.blogspot.com/2006/08/asian-news-77-cock-up-or-conspiracy.html
 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20050801&articleId=782

Domiphen Bromide

Comments

Hide the following 6 comments

The US Knew A Fortnight Ago

02.07.2007 17:54

Various articles here were hidden by IM admins that claimed the US knew two weeks in advance that a terrorist attack was planned at Glasgow Airport but they didn't inform the UK. I don't blame the admins for hiding those articles as they seemed unbelievable, but they have now been reported on BBC Scotland, ABC and in the Telegraph.

This throws the case wide open. This was known about a fortnight ago and nothing was done. It is reminiscent of the month of warning about Lockerbie that were kept hidden from the British public. If this doesn't indicate culpability then it does show criminal negligence by the authorities.

Like I said, I don't blame the IM admins for hiding the original posts as they seemed so unbelievable, but I would ask you lot to bear in mind that these are extraordinary times. If you can repost the original IM article then I'd appreciate it, if you can't, then I think you should be a tad more circumspect in the coming weeks about what is hidden.

Danny
- Homepage: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/02/nterror1102.xml


Editing

02.07.2007 18:52

To be fair, just because the UK was warned two weeks ago, and by the preponderance of this story I assume it is also on the intel community newswires and thereby credible, doesn't mean to say they had enough information to know who to watch.

Without anything more specific, that story is going nowhere.

I would like to stress that even the connections mentioned above are no clear proof of inside jobs. Any role in 7/7 by these people could equally be so-called blowback/betrayal. That could only be ascertained through a real, independent inquiry.

Given the amount of journalistic and academic material indicating the Finsbury Park Mosque's relationship to the dirty war in the Balkans, we do have to start wondering what exactly Blair was hiding by blocking such an inquiry. At the very least the fact that MI5/6 was employing these terrorists to circumvent UN resolutions.

Until an inquiry is given free access to documents and witnesses, no one will ever know for sure, either way. One thing is for sure, they seem to have something highly illegal worth hiding despite being such obvious liars.

Even if 7/7 and recent events weren't inside jobs, the fact the UK has been sponsoring terrorism abroad alone is illegal enough to see scores of people behind bars, if someone was actually able to gather the evidence, build the case and present it to a court that couldn't be undermined by the Attorney General.

Domiphen Bromide


"Jordanian angle"

02.07.2007 18:52

What a strange post - according to the mainstream media we're looking at a Jordanian of Palestinian origin who was arrested on a motorway with his wife. The OP seems to have jumped several steps, as the guy hasn't been charged, let alone convicted.

Whilst radio 4 is rabbiting on about a controlled explosion at a hospital in Paisley, Debka reckons there wasn't any explosive material in the car.
 http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4363

Danny - there was no "original IM article" - it was a straight repost from ynet.

Now Debka is saying that the Amerikkans were taken by surprise as they didn't expect Glasgow to be a target.
 http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4373

Tang Jiaxuan


Tang Jiaxuan

02.07.2007 19:13

The fact that this information has started creeping all over the media is of potential significance itself.

The Jordan connection speaks for itself and would be of great significance if a link was established either honestly or dishonestly, for all sorts of reasons. It could be exploited and abused in a million ways. Where the original suggestion of home-grown terrorists is of limited use.

It is going to be difficult to shut some terrorism experts up on the subject of Bakri if the angle takes off, and the government will be in high spin cycle to deflect the fact they effectively refused to arrest the guy.

But as you rightly say, they could end up just letting him go. Either way, as the Bakri story proves, it will be no indication of innocence or guilt if he isn't charged.

Domiphen Bromide


Correction

03.07.2007 09:39

Okay, no one spotted the erm intentional error then: Bakri was left stranded by the Home Office in the Lebanon, not Jordan. Hamza however is wanted on terrorism charges in Jordan. The two were close, so it wouldn't stop the spin machine drawing a line- whether there is any real connection or not

And let's face it, any Middle East connection/smear could be useful to your average warmongering imperialist at the moment.

Domiphen Bromide


a friendly face at last

03.07.2007 17:41

Jeez, emigre, okay, I've never seen your face but I'd still count it as friendly. Friendlier than the fucks I used to support who have proven themselves to be fascist here in the past few days.

Here is one link to the arson attack:
 http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1514037.0.0.php

There are many others, just search on Bathgate and Mosque on googlenews.

Scotland is now at war. I suppose it always was but I personally am at war and doubt I'l ever meet you now. I had a few positive plans but I hope everyone I was helping can understand, this really is war. Those who sow violence will reap the same crop.

Sorry for the siege mentality, it comes from being under seige.

Danny


Upcoming Coverage
View and post events
Upcoming Events UK
24th October, London: 2015 London Anarchist Bookfair
2nd - 8th November: Wrexham, Wales, UK & Everywhere: Week of Action Against the North Wales Prison & the Prison Industrial Complex. Cymraeg: Wythnos o Weithredu yn Erbyn Carchar Gogledd Cymru

Ongoing UK
Every Tuesday 6pm-8pm, Yorkshire: Demo/vigil at NSA/NRO Menwith Hill US Spy Base More info: CAAB.

Every Tuesday, UK & worldwide: Counter Terror Tuesdays. Call the US Embassy nearest to you to protest Obama's Terror Tuesdays. More info here

Every day, London: Vigil for Julian Assange outside Ecuadorian Embassy

Parliament Sq Protest: see topic page
Ongoing Global
Rossport, Ireland: see topic page
Israel-Palestine: Israel Indymedia | Palestine Indymedia
Oaxaca: Chiapas Indymedia
Regions
All Regions
Birmingham
Cambridge
Liverpool
London
Oxford
Sheffield
South Coast
Wales
World
Other Local IMCs
Bristol/South West
Nottingham
Scotland
Social Media
You can follow @ukindymedia on indy.im and Twitter. We are working on a Twitter policy. We do not use Facebook, and advise you not to either.
Support Us
We need help paying the bills for hosting this site, please consider supporting us financially.
Other Media Projects
Schnews
Dissident Island Radio
Corporate Watch
Media Lens
VisionOnTV
Earth First! Action Update
Earth First! Action Reports
Topics
All Topics
Afghanistan
Analysis
Animal Liberation
Anti-Nuclear
Anti-militarism
Anti-racism
Bio-technology
Climate Chaos
Culture
Ecology
Education
Energy Crisis
Fracking
Free Spaces
Gender
Globalisation
Health
History
Indymedia
Iraq
Migration
Ocean Defence
Other Press
Palestine
Policing
Public sector cuts
Repression
Social Struggles
Technology
Terror War
Workers' Movements
Zapatista
Major Reports
NATO 2014
G8 2013
Workfare
2011 Census Resistance
Occupy Everywhere
August Riots
Dale Farm
J30 Strike
Flotilla to Gaza
Mayday 2010
Tar Sands
G20 London Summit
University Occupations for Gaza
Guantanamo
Indymedia Server Seizure
COP15 Climate Summit 2009
Carmel Agrexco
G8 Japan 2008
SHAC
Stop Sequani
Stop RWB
Climate Camp 2008
Oaxaca Uprising
Rossport Solidarity
Smash EDO
SOCPA
Past Major Reports
Encrypted Page
You are viewing this page using an encrypted connection. If you bookmark this page or send its address in an email you might want to use the un-encrypted address of this page.
If you recieved a warning about an untrusted root certificate please install the CAcert root certificate, for more information see the security page.

Global IMC Network


www.indymedia.org

Projects
print
radio
satellite tv
video

Africa

Europe
antwerpen
armenia
athens
austria
barcelona
belarus
belgium
belgrade
brussels
bulgaria
calabria
croatia
cyprus
emilia-romagna
estrecho / madiaq
galiza
germany
grenoble
hungary
ireland
istanbul
italy
la plana
liege
liguria
lille
linksunten
lombardia
madrid
malta
marseille
nantes
napoli
netherlands
northern england
nottingham imc
paris/île-de-france
patras
piemonte
poland
portugal
roma
romania
russia
sardegna
scotland
sverige
switzerland
torun
toscana
ukraine
united kingdom
valencia

Latin America
argentina
bolivia
chiapas
chile
chile sur
cmi brasil
cmi sucre
colombia
ecuador
mexico
peru
puerto rico
qollasuyu
rosario
santiago
tijuana
uruguay
valparaiso
venezuela

Oceania
aotearoa
brisbane
burma
darwin
jakarta
manila
melbourne
perth
qc
sydney

South Asia
india


United States
arizona
arkansas
asheville
atlanta
Austin
binghamton
boston
buffalo
chicago
cleveland
colorado
columbus
dc
hawaii
houston
hudson mohawk
kansas city
la
madison
maine
miami
michigan
milwaukee
minneapolis/st. paul
new hampshire
new jersey
new mexico
new orleans
north carolina
north texas
nyc
oklahoma
philadelphia
pittsburgh
portland
richmond
rochester
rogue valley
saint louis
san diego
san francisco
san francisco bay area
santa barbara
santa cruz, ca
sarasota
seattle
tampa bay
united states
urbana-champaign
vermont
western mass
worcester

West Asia
Armenia
Beirut
Israel
Palestine

Topics
biotech

Process
fbi/legal updates
mailing lists
process & imc docs
tech