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John Bowden and Guantanamo Bay

Danny | 10.07.2007 13:31 | Repression

I just received a lovely letter from John Bowden. He has been told in writing why he isn't allowed to hear the CD I made for him. An assistant governor at Glenochil listened to it and deemed it contained sectarian songs. When asked for an example she said it was the Seize the Day song "Club X-Ray". She wrote this clearly criticised Guantanamo Bay and such criticisms would offend prison staff.

So the Scottish Prison Service have banned any criticism of Guantanamo Bay, a camp that is condemned worldwide, in case officers are offended. I take it prison officers at Glenochil have a great deal of respect and love for their collegues at Guantanamo.
This is a minor point but it does illustrate several things - the political nature of the prison regime and of Johns detention, the mendacity of the SPS who have given four different reasons for seizing the CD, and the petty-minded harassment that goes on in our prisons. It is also quite short-sighted of the SPS as it is slanderous/libellous of one of Britains best up-and-coming bands and a breach of their copyright. If they had just given him the CD like they initially promised then it would have been forgotten about. It also misrepresents this "happy little song" about a "happy little place".

I'm going to print and post these lyrics to John to see if they get through to him:

Guantanamo Bay / Club X-Ray - Seize the Day

I think most people know about Guantanamo Bay or they've heard a lot about it and it's been bad press mainly, and we think it's been misrepresented. People are saying that innocent invividuals have been walking along the streets in Pakistan and places, they've been picked up by the FBI-CIA and bundled off, find themselves kept in cages in Guantanamo Bay with no right of appeal and possibly facing execution. We say that's all nonsense. It's actually Club X-Ray and they are having a great time there and learning this dance, it's called the Shackle-Shuffle. These two people are going to demonstrate on the stage, like all the people at Guantanamo Bay a very willing volunteer here. You're going to have to imagine that they are wearing orange boilersuits cos that's de riguer at Club X-Ray, and you may worry that she's a child, but you know some of the people at Guantanamo Bay are under 16 years old, that doesn't matter. It's a happy little song. It's a happy little place.

If you're a Sheikh who is a mover
or fundamentally a groover
Get with the brothers on maneuver
Comin at you all the way from Cuba
- Not the Cuba of Havanas
Where the Presidente is bananas
But the Cuba that is free, lookin over the sea
to the Florida Key ( to democracy )
At Guantanamo Bay, it's the U.S. of A.,
Shackle-Shuffle every day at the Club X-Ray
Wear a chain on your wrist, do the Islamacist
Bossa Nova with a twist, and it goes like this:
Put your hands on your head (Reach!)
And Shackle-Shuffle to the left (Move!)
You do the monkey-squat and then (Squat!)
You Shackle-Shuffle back again
Bow in prayer to the East (Pray!)
Down on your belly like a beast (Beast!)
You're never gonna be released (Peace!)
Till the day you're deceased
No time for sleeping at Club X-Ray
No time for chilling-out the next day
Although we wouldn't call it torture
We're gonna sweat you now we've caught ya.
At first you feel humiliated
Cos every move is regulated
But as the beat interrogates you
Join the club that liberates!
At Guantanamo Bay, it's the U.S. of A.,
Shackle-Shuffle every day at the Club X-Ray
At Guantanamo Bay, it's the U.S. of A.,
Shackle-Shuffle every day at the Club X-Ray
Put your hands on your head (Reach!)
And Shackle-Shuffle to the left (Move!)
You do the monkey-squat and then (Squat!)
You Shackle-Shuffle back again
Bow in prayer to the East (Pray!)
Down on your belly like a beast (Beast!)
You're never gonna be released (Peace!)
Till the day you're deceased
It isn't really so important
whether you came dressed as a combatant
Or just a towel-headed farmer
who had a cousin called Osama
We're not conventional believers
No busy-bodies from Geneva
If you're a friend of Tora Bora
There's no restriction on the door

All you'll need to get in is the beard on your chin,
An indefinite stay and you don't have to pay
At Guantanamo Bay, it's the U.S. of A.,
Shackle-Shuffle every day at the Club X-Ray
Put your hands on your head (Reach!)
And Shackle-Shuffle to the left (Move!)
You do the monkey-squat and then (Squat!)
You Shackle-Shuffle back again
Bow in prayer to the East (Pray!)
Down on your belly like a beast (Beast!)
You're never gonna be released (Peace!)
Till the day you're deceased
At this exclusive little venue
Halal is always on the menu
Free Toiletries, and what is more an
Edition of Gideon's Koran
O heck - did I forget to mention
We're busy building an extension
Where every wish will be respected
As you are lethally injected!

We'd a pipeline to lay, but you got in the way,
So we sacrificed you to the needs of the few
In the heat of High Noon you will dance to our tune
An example to all to obey Unocal,
See the prisoners kneel, with no right of appeal,
In the land that is free - free to take liberty -
Till the sea starts to boil, till we run out of oil
In Guantanamo Bay… Hey - Hey!
At the Club X-Ray! (Shackle-Shuffle to the right) Cha-cha-cha.

Danny
- Homepage: http://www.seizetheday.org/albums/theTideIsTurning/guantanamoBay.cfm

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Prison not registered with DP act

11.07.2007 12:25

"According to a report by the UK Information Commission, a "horrifying" number of firms, government bodies and other public agencies have breached rules designed to govern the use of personal information...The Ministry of Justice has warned that in the future, those misusing personal data could be given prison sentences." [1]

A search on the information commisioners website shows that HMP Glenochil, FK10 3AD, isn't registered with the Data Protection act. This means either they have no records on their prisoners and their staff, and no CCTV, or the prison staff themselves could be given prison services according to the Ministry of Justice.

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/06/374288.html

[1]  http://www.pcretailmag.com/news/28059/Horrifying-number-of-data-protection-breaches

Danny


Prisons and Data Protection

11.07.2007 13:36

Don't know how it works in Scotland but the Prison Service in England and Wales has a complicated system for Data Protection and Freedom of Information. You can find this on the Prison Service's website by looking for Prison Service Orders and then finding PSO 9020 which deals with Data Protection Act requests.

Under these provisions, prisoners can make requests to see all info held on them. Stuff is frequently withheld on spurious security grounds and there is endless red tape. However a procedure does exist and the SPS will have to have somethig similar. The individual prisons do, I think, appoint 'data controllers', but the requests for disclosure are done centrally and not via the individual prison.

N


Protect My Datah !

11.07.2007 16:27

Thanks N, but unless you know differently then prisons are as liable as any other public body to register under the Data Protection act. I started writing to Glenochil politely but got beaten back with lies and bureaucracy. I hate the state more thn most but I am smitten with the Information Commisioners office. The Ministry of Justice is threateneing to imprison people who fail to comply with the DP act but they themselves don't comply and aren't exempt. So they can go imprison themselves as far as I care.

On a personal note, my dole was stopped 45 days ago because I failed to sign-on. I tried, and their CCTV witnessed it, but I wasn't able to make a Freedom of Information request before they wiped their tapes because the dole-office isn't DP compliant. It is a loophole to hang them with, a double-edged sword of their own making. I'm going to the dole tommorow, I'll be on CCTV, I'll request a copy of the tape, and then I'll phone the cops since when they can't deliver.
To paraphrase Cartman, it is not so much 'Respect my Authoritah' as 'Protect My Datah'.

Danny
- Homepage: http://www.esd.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/esd/search.asp


Public bodies

12.07.2007 09:30

Don't think an individual prison is a public body. The Scottish Prison Service will be the public body.

N


petty vacant

12.07.2007 12:19

I should have said public buildings. I believe individual buildings within larger organisations have to have a data controller to comply with the data protection act if they maintain local records of staff or clients or if they have a CCTV system. So, my local Shell garage is registered individually as it has CCTV but not for staff records. Shell HQ is also registered for it's CCTV but also for staff records. I can see no legal exemption for civil service buildings - even Buckingham Palace is there and the Queen has legal immunity from everything. So I don't see why HMP Glenochil and my local job centre aren't registered, at least for their CCTV systems.

The implication was clearly spelled out by the Information Commisioner. 90% of CCTV footage that is used in prosecutions should be inadmissible in court. If you are on trial and CCTV evidence has been used as evidence then type in the postcode of the organisation that submitted it and if it isn't registered it should be ruled as inadmissible.

Back to Club X-Ray though. To get the CD into prison I had to get copyright permission from the artists. They granted this permission but only for this one CD and only for John Bowden to hear, several of them were explicit about this. After I learned that a prison guard had played it, I reminded them that it was a breach of copyright unless they had sought Johns permission. Now an assistant governor has knowingly broken copyright again. I know I am being petty, but they started it. I had thought I was going to get the first comp CD into a prison but other prisoners get comp CDs all the time, the guards at reception told me my written permission wasn't even necessary when I handed the CD in. I hope to get from John the written declaration that Seize the Days song has been banned because it is sectarian and critical of the prison service so that I can pass that to the band. If I were them I'd sue but even if they don't it is good publicity "as banned by the prison service".

I'd love to repeat what John wrote about this - I mean the SPS have read our correspondence anyway - but I don't want to distract from his case or preempt his next move. I'd be happy to have John stay at my house and leave him with my nephews and neices, and I wouldn't say that about most peace activists I've met. He is obviously no danger to the public. The prison service are obviously punishing him for standing up to them. It's like in the torture scene in 1984, the torture continued after the confession and it was explained that it wasn't to get Winston to confess, it was to break his spirit and make him believe the confession. the SPS have handled this very stupidly. They think by keeping him locked up in maximum security he is less likely to cause them future problems than if he was released. As long as he is supported on the outside, he is actually much more of a problem for them inside. And it is an awful thing to say, but he is much more of an asset to prisoners rights activism inside than if he were free. I hope he gets released asap and will work for that, as I would have broken and licked their boots under this much pressure, but since he hasn't broken he is a shining example.

He is not even an anarchist, and yet he is under lock down conditions simply for refusing to condemn anarchists as terrorists. He is more free than any of us on the outside who bite our tongues just to protect our benefits or get promotion. Even within prisons dissent is bought off with privileges for obedience. To me at least that fact illustrates that the whole of the UK is a prison island, John is just in the most oppressive wing of that state penitentionary. Johns case and treatment isn't unique, but I can think of no one who embodies libertarian principles to the same degree. As Henry David Thoreau wrote,

"Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison." -

Danny


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IM Coup ?

12.07.2007 16:01

Danny | 12.07.2007 16:24 | Indymedia
The last "middle feature" Browns Bombs has just been "disappeared", apparently without any discussion on the lists.

Sure, only me and dh had responed to that, but I am as proud of what I wrote there as on the other threads. If you are going to censure/censor me then please remove all my posts at once. You don't have to explain why to me, you obviously control this website now, but it seems obscene to let my other contributions stand when you disappear some of them without discussion.

I know this post will be hidden as 'it should be taken to the lists' but before you do that I'd like to see a link to the lists that explains why we can't blame the current government for the current wave or terrorist attacks when all the establishment groups are allowed to ?

If you can't, please remove all my posts visible under this name.

Danny

PS who are you 'independent' from ? I know three, maybe four Scottish IMCistas who are definitely MI5. The proof of this is you are more self-censoring than the mainstream media who feel able to criticise Brown for his responsibility for the recent attacks.

IM5
- Homepage: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/07/375759.html


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The hidden IM5 comment was me

12.07.2007 18:46

If you choose to hide some of my comment FOR NO FUCKING REASON then please hide them all. I have never described these comments as copyleft. So be consistent in your censorship. IM is infiltrated by MI 5, I know this to be fact from previous personal experience, I just never thought they were in the majority until today.

You shameful middleclass fakers.

Danny


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Eh, sorry

12.07.2007 20:56

seen no discussion of this on the list so I have to ask - why are my comments I've asked to be removed still stand whn the comment I said should remain be hidden ?

Some IMCista must have done this. Yet no one is prepared to put their name to this. I know as a matter of course, for privacy, you don't record IP numbers. And I know any administrator on any website can. You have my full permission to record mine. I'll post that to you if you want. Wht I don't accept, and what I am angry about, is that that you publish the comments you like but censor the comments critical oI IMs admin policy. All or nothing, either way is fine with me. What I don't understand, what no one has argued here, is why only certain comments are allowed ? Was this discussed on the list cos i don't post there but I do read it and I never noticed this discussion.

So maybe I over stepped the mark by calling this a MI5 coup. Maybe it is just self-censorship. Either way though kids, if you cut one of my posts please have the common courtesy to cut them all.

Danny


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Danny

12.07.2007 21:07

This thread is about John Bowden and Guantanamo - you started it - why on earth would you want to derail it with your own bad temperness?

"what I am angry about, is that that you publish the comments you like but censor the comments critical oI IMs admin policy"

Yes - because that is what the list is for - no way does everyone in admin read all the comments - and grandstanding through comments is not news - its been done a million times before.

Keep breaching the guidelines and the posts keep getting hidden - its a futile waste of time that could be used doing something else - eg making banners for tomorrow.

imcista


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Oh very fuck you

12.07.2007 22:12

>This thread is about John Bowden and Guantanamo - you started it - why on earth would you want to derail it with your own bad temperness?

Try to use real words. The word is temper. More fully my bad temper which I admit. And I also admit some shame in derailing Johns cause here by complaining about an unrelated issue. I also know myself to be unrelated to Johns cause, and I also know John to be a person of principle who most probably would agree with, and who who you personally have failed to support in the lightest. So don't lecture me.

"what I am angry about, is that that you publish the comments you like but censor the comments critical oI IMs admin policy"

>Yes - because that is what the list is for - no way does everyone in admin read all the comments - and grandstanding through comments is not news - its been done a million times before. Keep breaching the guidelines and the posts keep getting hidden - its a futile waste of time that could be used doing something else - eg making banners for tomorrow.

Yeah, and John could be released tomoorrow if he agreed to the same submission to a higer authority. I have no indiction that he would agree with me on this or any other issue, but I have a sense of his attitidue you obviously don't have. And I have to say again, fuck you. You are only able to hide me since you can't debate with me Speaking only for myself, fuck the admins here who have hid my posts without any argument. And to block my email account account which I've been using to recruit people for an action in suppot of John on the very day of that action, well whoever you are, it isn't John you have to answer to. I persoanlly am furious as you can probably see, and yet I am still capable of an argument you can only hide. I doubt anyone else could infiltrate IM and find your IP/home addresses, and I doubt John'd be inclined to . I can though, and I will. You want me to take this to the lists ? Give me an url. IM has shamed itself today, it has aligned with the with the worst aspects of our society. Self censoring fakers.

I know this will be hidden without debate. You just hid your own post. I am perfectly sober, perfectly straight and still really furious that the main feature was hidden - and I find it telling that my email was just blocjked for expressing my anger. Shame on RiseUp.Net too. Fuck you and the horses you rode in on. You think by crippling me you will sabotage John, or that you can use my support for him as an excuse to bite my tongue on unrleated issues ? Have you not read why he is in solitary today ? Do you not understand the basics of liberty ? My complaint at your earlier censorhsip has nothing to do with my admirataion of John and it is awful for you to try to use that to silence me. Awful for IM. Your (hidden) implication that it does should shame the whole collective, not me, not John. Somebody debate with me or just act like the nazis you seem to be and so expect the retaliation you deserve. I don't know John nor would I pin my flag to his mast. I mistook this place as a libertarian place to recruit for his demo. You have shown me my error.

FASCISTI IMCISTA

Danny


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Please remove or hide the whole of this thread or unhide the hidden portions

12.07.2007 22:43

It is copyright you know. And you have proven yourselves today to be no friends of liberty.

Put your hands on your head (Reach!)
And Shackle-Shuffle to the left (Move!)
You do the monkey-squat and then (Squat!)
You Shackle-Shuffle back again
Bow in prayer to the East (Pray!)
Down on your belly like a beast (Beast!)
You're never gonna be released (Peace!)
Till the day you're deceased
No time for sleeping at Club X-Ray
No time for chilling-out the next day
Although we wouldn't call it torture
We're gonna sweat you now we've caught ya.
At first you feel humiliated
Cos every move is regulated
But as the beat interrogates you
Join the club that liberates!

Danny
- Homepage: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/07/375494.html?c=all


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I am serious you know

12.07.2007 22:51

If you can hide a middle-feature with comments without debate, then why can't you hide apromoted feature ? It is a cause i chose to promote, but I now feel from your collective actions that I chose the wrong forum and don't want to discredit myself or the cause by posting here. So why the dalay in rmoeving my post when you have already shown you will do that at a seconds notice when an insider requests it ?

Danny


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My brother in law is a top english lawyer you know

12.07.2007 23:13

The lyrics are copyright of Seize the Day. Do you have permission to reprint them ?

The preceding sentiments were mine. You do not have permssion to still publish them now that you are proving youservleves to be a self-censoring bunch of MI5 infiltrated fuck-wits So preferably hide all of the comments I have made here, or reinstate the ones you hid earlier.

You know, at the end of the day, I have more time on my hands than the whole of IM-UK combined, and I have oher recources to justice than appealing to a collective I know to be corrupted. So if an IM admin can get their own posts hidden simply by doing it, in the process hiding my posts, why can't I get my my on articles and coments retracted simply by asking for it ? Same rules apply surely.

What no debate ? All I alleged was that it was admissible to link our governments foriegn slaugher on the recent terrorism. When did that opinion, often repteated in the mainstream media, become unprintibale here ?

12th July 2007. Thank you guidoreports for giving me that date.

Danny


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