Like in England: 70% of the Europeans want a Lisbon 'treaty' referendum
Henk Ruyssenaars - Foreign correspondent | 20.10.2007 09:57 | G8 Germany 2007 | Globalisation | Social Struggles | Workers' Movements | World
Very underreported: "The Financial Times/Harris survey showed (last Thursday) that 70 pct of respondents in Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Spain wanted a vote on the new treaty, with 20 pct saying one was not necessary, and 10 pct unsure." The survey again confirmed that people do NOT want a totalitarian superstate.
FPF - Amsterdam - 20-10-2007 - Last Thursday, and to phrase it nicely, the 'very underreported' result of a poll among people in five EU countries resulted in an average of seventy percent (70%) saying they want a referendum. They want their voices and votes back, want the "Treason of Lisbon" stopped in it's tracks, and absolutely do NOT want a totalitarian European Union, as planned. They want their right back to vote NO!
Because what happened last Thursday and Friday in the Portuguese capital, was the EU presidents and PM's betraying the hundreds of millions of people in the 27 countries. As I also wrote: "In Lisbon, and to avoid another defeat, the managers of the EU have decided not to hold any referenda at all. Hundreds of millions of EU people in the 27 countries thus have the right to vote about their own lives and destiny stolen: they have all been betrayed again by their champagne drinking political personnel, and the screwed people pay the bill too. Whether they want it or not, the Euros are taken from their wallets. At present 61% of the Dutch has sleeping problems because they don't know anymore how to pay the bills in the highest taxed country in the world, and according to official figures (CPB) more than one million people must be soon as poor. In one of the richest countries in the world proving how the usurers EU rules result in rampant poverty.
As former Czech President Vaclav Klaus, in 'Mlada Fronta Dnes' said concerning the EU plans: "This is crossing the Rubicon, after which there will be no more sovereign states in Europe with fully-fledged governments and parliaments which represent legitimate interests of their citizens, but only one state will remain. Basic things will be decided by a remote 'federal government' in Brussels and, for example, Czech citizens will be only a tiny particle whose voice and influence will be almost zero. We are against a European superstate." [andend] - More information at Url.:
http://antwerpen.indymedia.org/news/2007/10/12837.php
POLLS: FIXING THE FACTS AROUND THE POLICY
One has to keep in mind that only people in five of the 27 EU countries have been asked. Because polls in general, and especially when they are done by criminal creatures collaborating with the US/UK junta, like Thomson, the Financial Times or Forbes as propaganda sources, are carefully constructed so as to give the wanted results. But in this case they couldn't deny the answers, and field research is easy. Have a look at Ireland where it is said a referendum will be held, surely resulting in a NO vote. The other people do not want their lives to get worse either. Internationally seen it's bad enough with the US/UK junta's mad doctrine that "Might makes Right', ignoring all laws and conventions, killing human beings by the millions for power and profit. This is not what human beings want. Nowhere on earth.
The majority of the people on earth do not want it this genocidal way, and people, when asked, will react the same way as the Europeans did in the five countries: the "Treason of Lisbon" allowing further participation in the quest for world power and profit is absolutely not acceptable to any decent human being. The people want the 'humanoids' out, and severely punished for life, because of their scavenging and scorching of the earth we all live on. The people are taking their voices back, and that must put an end to the treacherous propaganda-media, one way or the other stopping the megaphones of the so called 'mighty' which, like the stooges they work, for keep saying that a (totalitarian) constitution for the whole EU is the best that could happen to all people. Lies of course, as the EU voters showed. The so called constitution, as the 'Treaty of Lisbon' is, is only meant to further enrich the money mafia 'running' the EU too.
''Voters in five EU countries want treaty referendum,'' was the result of a poll published by Thomson and the Financial Times in London, a scoop-like item which was also reprinted in the bible of the money makers, Forbes: "A substantial majority of voters in five large European Union countries want a referendum on the bloc's new reform treaty, according to a poll published Thursday.
70% WANTS A VOICE AND VOTE
The Financial Times/Harris survey showed that 70 pct of respondents in Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Spain wanted a vote on the new treaty, with 20 pct saying one was not necessary, with 10 pct unsure.
It comes as EU leaders are set to kick off a two-day summit in Lisbon today, where they hope to reach agreement on a final draft of the treaty, which critics allege is essentially the same as the moribund constitution, which was torpedoed in 2005 by 'no' votes in France and the Netherlands.
According to the poll, 76 pct of Germans, 75 pct of Britons, 72 pct of Italians, 65 pct of Spaniards and 63 pct of French wanted a referendum on the treaty.
A separate Daily Telegraph/YouGov survey, also published on Thursday, said that 69 pct of Britons wanted a vote on the document.
The FT/Harris poll showed that, overall, 38 pct of those surveyed thought the treaty would have a positive impact, compared with 23 pct who thought it would be negative.
(If 38% is said to be positive, there's 62% left. The Dutch in 2005 voted 63% against the totalitarian EU constitution which rightfully is seen as a blank cheque the criminal EU managers have written, with themselves as creditors. - HR)
EU leaders agreed in June to the broad guidelines for the new document, aimed at streamlining decision-making in the enlarging bloc.
If the leaders back the new text in Lisbon, they could formally sign it in December. That would leave a year for member states to ratify it so that it could come into effect, as planned, on January 1, 2009.
Harris questioned a total of 5,604 adults between October 3 and 15 over the Internet.
1,126 Germans, 1,138 Britons, 1,090 Spaniards, 1,128 Italians and 1,122 French were surveyed.
YouGov questioned 2,122 voters between October 12 and 15.
[andend] - Source: story Forbes - Url.: http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/10/18/afx4232952.html
FPF - RELATED:
* EUROPEANS DO ABSOLUTELY NOT WANT AN EU SUPERSTATE! NEVER ACCEPT THEIR 'EU TREASON' IS THE SLOGAN! NOBODY SHOULD BE THEIR SLAVE! - Url.: scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/3981/index.php
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Because what happened last Thursday and Friday in the Portuguese capital, was the EU presidents and PM's betraying the hundreds of millions of people in the 27 countries. As I also wrote: "In Lisbon, and to avoid another defeat, the managers of the EU have decided not to hold any referenda at all. Hundreds of millions of EU people in the 27 countries thus have the right to vote about their own lives and destiny stolen: they have all been betrayed again by their champagne drinking political personnel, and the screwed people pay the bill too. Whether they want it or not, the Euros are taken from their wallets. At present 61% of the Dutch has sleeping problems because they don't know anymore how to pay the bills in the highest taxed country in the world, and according to official figures (CPB) more than one million people must be soon as poor. In one of the richest countries in the world proving how the usurers EU rules result in rampant poverty.
As former Czech President Vaclav Klaus, in 'Mlada Fronta Dnes' said concerning the EU plans: "This is crossing the Rubicon, after which there will be no more sovereign states in Europe with fully-fledged governments and parliaments which represent legitimate interests of their citizens, but only one state will remain. Basic things will be decided by a remote 'federal government' in Brussels and, for example, Czech citizens will be only a tiny particle whose voice and influence will be almost zero. We are against a European superstate." [andend] - More information at Url.:
http://antwerpen.indymedia.org/news/2007/10/12837.php POLLS: FIXING THE FACTS AROUND THE POLICY
One has to keep in mind that only people in five of the 27 EU countries have been asked. Because polls in general, and especially when they are done by criminal creatures collaborating with the US/UK junta, like Thomson, the Financial Times or Forbes as propaganda sources, are carefully constructed so as to give the wanted results. But in this case they couldn't deny the answers, and field research is easy. Have a look at Ireland where it is said a referendum will be held, surely resulting in a NO vote. The other people do not want their lives to get worse either. Internationally seen it's bad enough with the US/UK junta's mad doctrine that "Might makes Right', ignoring all laws and conventions, killing human beings by the millions for power and profit. This is not what human beings want. Nowhere on earth.
The majority of the people on earth do not want it this genocidal way, and people, when asked, will react the same way as the Europeans did in the five countries: the "Treason of Lisbon" allowing further participation in the quest for world power and profit is absolutely not acceptable to any decent human being. The people want the 'humanoids' out, and severely punished for life, because of their scavenging and scorching of the earth we all live on. The people are taking their voices back, and that must put an end to the treacherous propaganda-media, one way or the other stopping the megaphones of the so called 'mighty' which, like the stooges they work, for keep saying that a (totalitarian) constitution for the whole EU is the best that could happen to all people. Lies of course, as the EU voters showed. The so called constitution, as the 'Treaty of Lisbon' is, is only meant to further enrich the money mafia 'running' the EU too.
''Voters in five EU countries want treaty referendum,'' was the result of a poll published by Thomson and the Financial Times in London, a scoop-like item which was also reprinted in the bible of the money makers, Forbes: "A substantial majority of voters in five large European Union countries want a referendum on the bloc's new reform treaty, according to a poll published Thursday.
70% WANTS A VOICE AND VOTE
The Financial Times/Harris survey showed that 70 pct of respondents in Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Spain wanted a vote on the new treaty, with 20 pct saying one was not necessary, with 10 pct unsure.
It comes as EU leaders are set to kick off a two-day summit in Lisbon today, where they hope to reach agreement on a final draft of the treaty, which critics allege is essentially the same as the moribund constitution, which was torpedoed in 2005 by 'no' votes in France and the Netherlands.
According to the poll, 76 pct of Germans, 75 pct of Britons, 72 pct of Italians, 65 pct of Spaniards and 63 pct of French wanted a referendum on the treaty.
A separate Daily Telegraph/YouGov survey, also published on Thursday, said that 69 pct of Britons wanted a vote on the document.
The FT/Harris poll showed that, overall, 38 pct of those surveyed thought the treaty would have a positive impact, compared with 23 pct who thought it would be negative.
(If 38% is said to be positive, there's 62% left. The Dutch in 2005 voted 63% against the totalitarian EU constitution which rightfully is seen as a blank cheque the criminal EU managers have written, with themselves as creditors. - HR)
EU leaders agreed in June to the broad guidelines for the new document, aimed at streamlining decision-making in the enlarging bloc.
If the leaders back the new text in Lisbon, they could formally sign it in December. That would leave a year for member states to ratify it so that it could come into effect, as planned, on January 1, 2009.
Harris questioned a total of 5,604 adults between October 3 and 15 over the Internet.
1,126 Germans, 1,138 Britons, 1,090 Spaniards, 1,128 Italians and 1,122 French were surveyed.
YouGov questioned 2,122 voters between October 12 and 15.
[andend] - Source: story Forbes - Url.:
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/10/18/afx4232952.html FPF - RELATED:
* EUROPEANS DO ABSOLUTELY NOT WANT AN EU SUPERSTATE! NEVER ACCEPT THEIR 'EU TREASON' IS THE SLOGAN! NOBODY SHOULD BE THEIR SLAVE! - Url.: scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/3981/index.php
* THE STATE OF OUR WORLD IN RELATED LINKS - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/2ncumy * IT'S DANGEROUS TO BE RIGHT, WHEN YOUR GOVERNMENT IS WRONG. - VOLTAIRE
* THE US IS A 'CRIMOCRACY' - Christopher Bollyn: "This is how the U.S. government, which I call a "crimocracy" works. It is a government of criminals, by criminals, and for criminals. It is the source of the corruption which is responsible for the United States being in such dire straits." - Url.:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=110673 * "MINDS ARE LIKE PARACHUTES, THEY ONLY FUNCTION WHEN THEY ARE OPEN" - SIR JAMES DEWAR
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