You ought to edit it and throw it up on YouTube.

The police trying to out-wit the journalist is a real comedy moment.

youtube is shit, the copyright implications are horrible.

BUT you get a bigger number of viewers than indymedia could manage. (no offense like)

If people don't want their stuff on youtube - fair enough, but there are good reasons for doing so.

great video. this one will stand the test of time, particularly the closing sequence with poignant speeches.

up to yr usual standard. No longer bored of the beard

Does Class War, Class Pride mean no moslems as well as no toffs, no fascists, no yuppies and no filth? The rally looked like it was almost exclusively white.
(don't fucking reduce yourselves to the lowest common denonominator, think outside the box - so don't burn effigies of Mohammed; do you want to extend the network or not? If not, you might as well start recruiting racists. What about other targets like debt collectors, baliffs, the environmental abusing oil company scum killing the planet or big landowning toffs?)

You're a joke class war - and if you ever go beyond that/get taken as more than that, then I would be seriously worried about the safety of the organisers and participants of your events. I would say that in the age of Al Qa'ida, you appear like children playing, kinda. May God protect you. Violence isn't that way anyway agent provacators...perhaps why you traditionally were kinda tolerated by the state. Its a matter of ego basically - I know from experience how these elements trash the reality when its a peaceful collective consciosness thing that happening. So really if a mass peace-in (that would be anti war) was organised in Hyde park say - the people would have to be 'rainbow tribe' proactive in physically surrounding these elements and peacefully preventing them from distrupting the happening and provoking the state/police elements. I'm 100% serious about this. These complete and total fucking politico wankers would distrupt that sort of event. You could say on one level that its mental illness what these pro violence headcases do - a mental illness caused by the state. Just chill out and take some acid with the peace convoy you fucking egosing idiots....then perhaps you'lll know what I mean by collective consciousness. You celebrate dumbed down stupidity like another version of the mainstream tabloids class war. Egosiers.

Has anybody noticed that Ian Bone has hidden all his references to the latest royal - sex - drugs thingy from his blog?
Why did he do that?

Now that's funny... you made my day with that comedy sketch - great work.

So a bunch of 'working class' boys'n'girls walk calmly down a road in an area we'll never be able to afford to live in, shouting the odd slogan - and they are odd let's face it, and they feel as if they've done a good day's work.

Meanwhile a good journo makes some very good points and shows himself to be the sanest person on both sides.

I'll be honest, I've seen more energy and anger and disruptive power in many many marches - this flaccid turnout for a flaccid idea was just that... flaccid.!!

To face facts, people don't actually want violence. We get disheartened by so much of life and authority and crap governent and law, so violence might well have a place, but in the end it's not something we want. This class war idea has validity but in reality all you're doing is drawing more dividing lines, continuing the work of the tabloids, and helping the government govern by divide and rule. Those people with wealth feel all the safer in their little 'tribes' because of the fractious nature of what you're doing. You're basically perpetuating their own existence, not stopping it.

I did agree with the bloke at the end of the vid - people need to take to the streets. Authority and power come from those who gain their cash from the activities of the people - simple. If we all stop consuming so much then things would grind to a stand still. The immediate outcome of that though would be that people would lose jobs, and so the workers, the underpaid, low wage sector would be the first to go. Bit Catch 22 innit..!

Unless the people as a whole took back the concept of creating things for themselves - but let's face it, people don't want to toil in the fields growing their own food etc. People want their booze, food, mobiles, telly, tabloids, cafes, whatever - it's all in place cos we want it. There wasn't a single person on that march who doesn't own one of the above. And how many of them were vegan? Now there's radical.. nah they're good old working class folk who like a bit of multi-national produced factory farmed slaughter... what nonsense...

The biggest problem with 'movements' of various types is that we dis-empower ourselves by saying that we never asked for X,Y and Z to happen, which is true, but we do very little about it, roll our eyes, and then head down to the offie to consume the drink of some multi / pan national mega company, and somke the fags of another.

rant rant..

Change the present unjust and unfair economic structures yes, but violence is the lowest form of communication and will not work, it always creates more problems than it solves, anybody that uses violence or advocates its use is quite simply INSANE!

Previous history of Class War pales into insignificance as compared to the genuine revolutionary movements of the 90s - the environmental road protest movement and street party activist scene. Those movements also including the free party scene and the Exodus thing in Luton were genuinely mobilising large numbers of working class people in collective action. It's high point culminated in the June 18th carnival against Capital in 1999, where heavy police resistance meant that that form of mass mobilisation had reached the end of how far it could be taken to effect radical change. Class War were surely there in the City of London that day (18 Jun), but their numbers then were a mere fraction of total numbers in attendance that day (estimated to be around 15,000).

Times are now different and Class War stand to reap the bitter resentful air of massive inequality, however, only to an extent, as gang mentality means that the working class will not unite quite as easily as the policoes strategists within Class War salivate for...


Class war are a good alternative to the BNP - the worse of two evils.

Violence is horrible and no-one likes it. However, the present unjust social and political structures are protected by the state. The army and police are prepared to use massive amounts of violence against anyone who challenges their authority, and non-violent tactics alone are not going to beat them. Look how far non-violence got in Russia in 1905, or Chile in 1973. I'm not in Class War, and I'm not convinced that violence is the best tactic to use in the present situation, but to totally rule out any suggestion of violence as "insane" is counter-productive bollox. Remember, you may not use violence against them, but that won't stop them using violence against you.

to all those dimwit limp dick parasitical detractors who hide behind their computers - come out and fight you wankers. Cowards too eh?


we know who / what you are

ah this gets better and better.!!

Some REALLY good points, especially the entire anti-road movement and J18 etc..

As for the troll and the hiding behind the computer remark - classic - are you talking about yourself (you are, after all behind a computer), or maybe you're sending the message from the streets via your email phone or some nonsense :-)

I totally agree about violence - and there is no answer really, as total pacifism falls flat (Tibet etc), although there are always exceptions (Velvet Revolution etc.), but using violence also puts yourself onto the same level as them and there are def more of them and they're better armed.!! The anti-road tactics were certainly the way to go, gnawing away at things which finally brought about huge changes to the Gov's road building plans... although these have been quietly creeping back in since.

I notice that all those people on the video were swanning around Notting Hill on the same day as the NHS march was taking place - ummm... hello..??!?! Did any of them bother going to the Docklands Cleaners demo a few days earlier.? of course not...

And of course it's mostly white - everyone else is too busy actually working doing the jobs you hate to do.

There's nothing wrong with work, it's the type of work which is important - and 95% of it is pointless in today's capitalist society. Look @ your life and ensure that it's not harming others and the planet, and / or helping others to do the same.

Some us have a reasonable job, bit dull at times / stressful at others - some of the jobs are working class trades, others are service / teachers / whatever.. Is a teacher working class or middle class.? what's the income cut-off point at which you'd say someone is one of 'you' and become one of 'them'.? 2k, 5k, 10k, 20k, 30k..???

I'm not laying into Class War cos there's loads of things to agree with, but the tactics of the NottingHill thing are pointless, and your energy on the day would have been much better appreciated @ the NHS march - but then maybe there'd be too many people on there and your people skills aren't up to it....??!

Fucking hell Class war are soooo stupid, i mean they actually get working class anarchists back on the streets, they dont give a fuck about middle class liberals and all their little comments and they actually have the nerve to challenge the police, the rich and the current left wing 'movement'. Idiots.
We all know that revolution will only come through us sitting behind our nice computers, sipping a cup of tea and taking the piss out of each other and groups who commit that ridiculous thing known as 'direct action'.
Pfft.
Keep squabbling comrades! We're bringing the revolution ever closer!!

Class war have done some funny things in the past but are fairly counter productive and i don't know why they call themselves anarchists. For those of us who actually define our terms before using them it's easy to see that class war are an elitist fascist organisation (ie forcing their bigoted morals on others by the use of physical force)