Maz, Richard and Sarah on behalf of the meeting
Birmingham Uni condems racist Indymedia decision | 11.02.2008 17:40 | Anti-racism | Indymedia
"An utter disgrace" was the conclusion of a meeting held today at Birmingham University in response to the disgusting decision by indymedia editors to give in to the gang of racists who have pushed an anti Jewish agenda on the site for several months.
A large group came together to express their anger and dismay when it become clear from the minutes than rather than no platforming these racists they would be allowed to continue to post and be supported.
A large group came together to express their anger and dismay when it become clear from the minutes than rather than no platforming these racists they would be allowed to continue to post and be supported.
Detailed here is the wording in the minutes of the meeting issued on the indymedia discussion page.
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Anti-Semitism
There was a discussion about the anti-Semitism issue and indymedia's definitions about what constitutes anti-Semitism.
Concern that this is a prelude to an increasing climate of hiding Palestinian articles or criticisms of Israel.
Sends out a signifier that UK Indymedia has a position on their dispute.
This is a big and divisive question overall not just in the IMCs. Might be worth comparing with other positions and coming to a collective statement on this.
Might also be worth hiding the discussion about if to hide it as this should not be in the comments and a public dispute.
Post was long buried in the archives asking for the post to be hidden, so it was not controversial at the time.
Agree that what Greenstein has done and his campaign has been disruptive. All agreed this was the case. This is not a personal problem, it is a political problem. Responsibility of the collective to discuss this.
Proposal to move the disputed post into a third place that is not hidden but flagged as under discussion. Two stand-aside, no blocks. (tech wise, This will remove all the comments from the post in question.)
Proposal to to hide the article but not no platform the writer. This was blocked.
Proposal to ban Greenstein from the lists with arguing about this and hide posts about this on the lists and disruptive posts in general. This is already been done.
Proposal to discuss the issue of anti-Semitism and to get deep into the politics by those who wish to do so.
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An utter and complete climb down and retreat in the face of naked racism. We call upon all members of the indymedia collective to reject these minutes, establish a clear and open commitment to a written policy of no platform for racists.
Group spokespeople
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Anti-Semitism
There was a discussion about the anti-Semitism issue and indymedia's definitions about what constitutes anti-Semitism.
Concern that this is a prelude to an increasing climate of hiding Palestinian articles or criticisms of Israel.
Sends out a signifier that UK Indymedia has a position on their dispute.
This is a big and divisive question overall not just in the IMCs. Might be worth comparing with other positions and coming to a collective statement on this.
Might also be worth hiding the discussion about if to hide it as this should not be in the comments and a public dispute.
Post was long buried in the archives asking for the post to be hidden, so it was not controversial at the time.
Agree that what Greenstein has done and his campaign has been disruptive. All agreed this was the case. This is not a personal problem, it is a political problem. Responsibility of the collective to discuss this.
Proposal to move the disputed post into a third place that is not hidden but flagged as under discussion. Two stand-aside, no blocks. (tech wise, This will remove all the comments from the post in question.)
Proposal to to hide the article but not no platform the writer. This was blocked.
Proposal to ban Greenstein from the lists with arguing about this and hide posts about this on the lists and disruptive posts in general. This is already been done.
Proposal to discuss the issue of anti-Semitism and to get deep into the politics by those who wish to do so.
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An utter and complete climb down and retreat in the face of naked racism. We call upon all members of the indymedia collective to reject these minutes, establish a clear and open commitment to a written policy of no platform for racists.
Group spokespeople
Birmingham Uni condems racist Indymedia decision
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Another fictitious account
11.02.2008 17:57
The troll forgot to tell us who organised the meeting, and rather unusually for a supposed student politico forgot to give any contact details of websites to pursue. Guaranteed there was NO meeting about IMC UK at Birmingham Uni today.
I bet this is the same person who is pretending to be 'Steve' from 'Manchester activist collective', and 'Mike Cooperson' from Belgium.
I bet this is the same person who is pretending to be 'Steve' from 'Manchester activist collective', and 'Mike Cooperson' from Belgium.
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