Death to all the carnivores, such as lions, tigers, foxes, for suppressing our brave herbivorous comrades, the mice, antelope, boars and suchlike! And death to all those who won't go vegan!

Ignoring the silly comment about carniverous animals, I take it then you that you do not agree with anti-spe? Then it begs the question about your logic on racism, ageism and sexism!

When people post comments which directly differ (note the word directly) on animal abuse it seems to be that of a guilty conscience!

...such as it's OK for carnivorous animals such as lions to kill for food but not humans. What's so "silly" about saying that? The only way to be truly non-"speciesist" is to be fruitarian or breatharian, which means that no species were harmed in the maintaining of your life, which highlights what a stupid concept "speciesism" is.

Oh and by the way I'm as against racism, sexism, and fascism as much as anyone else on here, if not more.

"Ignoring the silly comment about carniverous (sic) animals, I take it then you that you do not agree with anti-spe? Then it begs the question about your logic on racism, ageism and sexism!"

"Begging the question" is a logical fallacy. There is also no link between his views on ageism and sexism and his treatment of other species. There is also no referrence to age, sex or race in his comment so you've managed to combine ad hominem attacks with a rather clumsy strawman. Well done.


"When people post comments which directly differ (note the word directly) on animal abuse it seems to be that of a guilty conscience!"

Directly differ from what? Their previous comments? Your views?

You seem to be suggesting that the only reason someone would put forward an idea counter to yours is because they know you are right but they have a guilty conscience for failing to be as righteous as you are. Do you not think that might come across as a little arrogant?

"Anti-speciesism" might sound like something benign and egalitarian, but it shows a complete lack of understanding of the way the world works. All species strive for survival at the expense of other species because all species that do not gather energy directly from the sun need to feed on another species to derive energy. But, humans have managed to do so well that we are able to keep down other species far above and beyond what we need for our own survival.



Other species are not your friends.
They are your competitors.
They are your lunch.

Welcome to the natural world.

What sort of "logic" is this? I personally don't find that when going to the shops, getting a bus, going to work, meeting with friends, going to a concert or the amusement park that I have any problems with animals attacking me? Certainly no lions are out to get me...

Secondly, since when was the last time that these "beasts" were after the animals we raise for food. Certainly the farmers that complain about foxes are not intelligent enough at least to keep their animals from safety from other predators. But when was the last time you heard of non-human animals raiding humans property for non-human food? Its ridiculous, they hunt in the wild - there's no threat to what we are currently majoritively consuming.

The truth is, there is no threat to us from other animals. Just like there is no threat to blacks, asians or muslims from the white race! There's no war against human animals by non-human animals, you'll find that its infact the other way round, with billions of murders every years by us humans.

When it comes down to it, if animal products were not available, few people would go to the effort to produce it themselves. For example hunting, slaughtering animals, milking cows etc.

Real natural mate.