FIT tactics to be extended to "problem estates"
Luther Blissett | 08.05.2008 09:04 | Culture | Repression
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/may/08/police.ukcrime
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Luther Blissett | 08.05.2008 09:04 | Culture | Repression
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Horrendous proposal
09.05.2008 03:30
Firstly there are legal issues. Like what happened to the idea of 'innocence until proven guilty'? If this principle is thrown out, what will happen to our society. I believe we are already seeing the consequences of this trend, with the young losing all respect for their elders, and the elders losing all respect for _their_ young. Will the police be exempted from laws on harassment or will there just be a selective application of those laws (more hypocrisy)?
Social issues. As the article above asks - there will be consequences. People, especially the young copy their behaviour from their surroundings, peers, elders, those in authority. If neighbours and those in authority like the politicians such as Jacqui Smith & police are demanding harassment of those people they dislike then what do they expect will happen?
Moral issues - this would go against my beliefs to treat people in this way. If I was a policeman I would have to refuse orders to behave in this way, harassing innocent people, or anyone for that matter. Two 'wrongs' do not make a 'right'. If this is passed into law then my taxes will be spent on this harassment, just as they have been on killing innocents in Afghanistan and Iraq (and where is the bloody respect in that).
My question was going to be 'how long will it be until this is used against protesters?'. Just as ASBOs were, probably as intended when the law was introduced in the first place. That question has partly been answered by the above article, suggesting that harassment has already been used towards them.
Brian B
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reality check
10.05.2008 10:05
There are normally about 20 officers in an area nick, and there may be as many as 4+ estates on an area, without the use of a crystal ball then how else will they know who the local crooks are?
most criminal activity is committed by the same 1 - 5% of the population of an area (sorry but its a fact)
If they can find out who the regular crooks are, then they can deal with the problem with social services, housing associations, education, dss etc. (an arrest can lead to other agencies being alerted and can try and stop the core problem and hopefully lead to the person not needing to resort to crime)
I am no fan of FIT but in this case I think it can lead to an improvement in the general wellbeing of an area. Just as long as it is open to public scrutiny (maybe put the pics on a website for residents so that they are informed of who is the local burgler, say for 6 months?).
"knowledge is power, biased opinion is public masturbation"
Harry Purvis
"knowledge is power, biased opinion is public masturbation"
10.05.2008 10:13
A charter for harrassing people that cops don't like, but who they can't FIT up in any other way.
Try thinking about it again - preferably somewhere else.
Halfzware Shag
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