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Nine NO2ID campaigners arrested at peaceful protest

Moon23 | 03.07.2008 21:06 | Repression | Social Struggles

On Monday (30th June) nine NO2ID campaigners were arrested after they
staged a peaceful protest at an invitation only Home Office so-called
"public consultation"

On Monday (30th June) nine NO2ID campaigners were arrested after they
staged a peaceful protest at an invitation only Home Office so-called
"public consultation". NO2ID's protest was an entirely peaceful and
lawful attempt to publicise the Home Office's shifty semi-secret
proceedings that had been pre-arranged with STV news. There was no
intention to frighten or inconvenience any member of the public. The
nine were charged with breach of the peace and bound over for 30 days.
One of those arrested had a 4 year old child with her. Another of those
arrested was a 68 year old retired academic. It took nine hours for the
last of the protesters to be released from police custody. John Welford,
NO2ID Edinburgh co-ordinator and one of the nine arrested, in a letter
to The Scotsman said: "What is it about the current Labour Government
that it is unable to tolerate any criticism of its policies and actions?
And why is it frightened to engage openly and honestly in proper debate
with the citizens of this country, especially about an issue as
controversial as compulsory identity cards and the setting up of a vast,
intrusive database state? ...the government prefers to organise its own
heavily controlled focus group meetings and private consultations away
in the shadows."

Moon23
- e-mail: moon_watcher_2007@hotmail.com
- Homepage: http://www.no2id.net

Additions

Comment from activist

04.07.2008 08:36

"Nine of us have been charged for breach of the peace. Eight for causing "alarm and distress" for walking into the hotel wearing white suits and masks (despite two of them actually wearing unmasked East German border guard uniforms), and me for "alarm and disturbance" for infiltrating the meeting, putting my hand up to speak, taking the microphone when offered, speaking, and refusing to leave immediately while speaking after the minister requested that I do so.

Of the eight, one is a young lady who walked in after everyone else with a young child. The idea that she might have alarmed anyone is ridiculous. Another of the protesters was 17, on his first protest, doing only what I had told him - I'm very annoyed that he has been charged and had to spend a day in the cells at St Leonards.

There was a bit of heavy handed policing (they were responding to a 999 call and didn't know what they were facing) but it calmed down instantly the moment one of them realised they were being filmed by professionals and warned his colleagues. All protesters were entirely peaceful at all times.

I must emphasise that once the police realised that there actually wasn't any danger, they were all entirely courteous and professional throughout for the rest of the day. We still have to decide whether to file a complaint against the officer who ripped a mask of the face of a protester. He seemed a decent and friendly chap when I spoke to him later.

The police have told us that after speaking to groups of people inside, no one has any complaints about our conduct inside, there is no suggestion that we were anything other than peaceful. It is the "alarm" that has led to the charges "masked people in today's climate ...". Given that we had negotiated with the hotel manager to film an interview with STV inside (possibly after the 999 call had been made - that is still to be established), and were on our way out when the police arrived, I am surprised at the charges.

However, STV caught almost everything (except my contribution to the consultation) on camera. They followed the costumed protesters in, filmed them trying to negotiate entry, caught me being thrown out, an interview with me, our attempted departure, followed by the arrival of the police. Apparently we have made the main news programme, but couldn't see it ourselves.

We have all been bailed to appear before Edinburgh Sheriff's court on 24 July. I fully intend to use the occasion to highlight again how the Home Office are refusing to engage in debate with the public.

For clarification, I was not trying to engage in constructive debate inside the consultation. It would have taken hours to counter the nonsense that Meg Hillier was speaking and would have served little purpose. Instead, I concentrated on the fact that we and the general public had been excluded from the process.

There were a couple of amusing aspects. When I approached the registration desk just after the event started, I was able to see all the remaining badges and list of names - it was easy to select one. I entered the ID consultation with a newly-acquired false identity.

On entering the room, in which a video was playing, I slowly walked around to find the assigned seat for that person. Officials to whom I had been speaking outside appeared not to recognise me. No one challenged my entry as I took a seat. Meanwhile, officials who tackled the costumed protesters that tried to follow five minutes later asked the group if Dr Bevan was among them. So, they were looking out for me, but couldn't even spot me walking in late after I had been talking to them earlier. And these people think they are capable of controlling people's identities. Astonishing."

PS Most NO2IDers are aware of other civil liberties abuses such as those shown towards other activists. Solidarity is the key

moon23
mail e-mail: moon_watcher_2007@hotmail.com


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Whatcha gonna do when they come for you...

03.07.2008 23:17

First they came for the animal righters, but I believed the police and media lies about them so I did nothing.

Then they came for the No2IDers....

Look at what is happening! I've never been into animal rights but it's true what they say. The police use new laws against them first and then they use them against the rest of us. We have to stop this!! I'll never turn a blind eye again when I see the police abusing their powers on animal rights people.

When I see police arresting working class activists I know who's side I'm on!

Mr Fox


Open your eyes!

04.07.2008 07:49

This has been happening a long time to many other activists but the problem is the single issue mentality that surrounds animal rights groups etc. Please broaden your minds and you will see the bigger picture and realise we fight the same fight! Solidarity and understanding is the key!

@narchist


Many AR are part of the class war

04.07.2008 08:23

Ermmm how can I say this - many AR people are also anarchists and are part of the class struggle. It's those outside the movement who believe the media lies that see them as single issue. Many many anarchists are guilty of this.

If you go to an AR march you will often here the slogan "Human freedom, Animal Rights, One Struggle, One Fight".

AR people know more than anyone the oppresion that capitalism brings.

AR is currently the biggest threat to big business in the UK, thats why so much police resources are arranged against them. Just wish other anarchists could see this and realise the importance of AR to the wider class struggle.

Ermmm


Just wanting to open dialogue between all groups!

04.07.2008 09:39

I was involved with animal rights groups from hunt sabs to anti vivisection groups in 1990's and early 2000's but had to leave cos of the single issue mentality and because the only thing that mattered was the animals ie fuck everything else and I am sorry but this is not anarchism. You maybe right with the connection to anticapitalism which is not exclusive to anarchism. So ermmmm maybe you are confusing the two!!

@narchist


Make the complaint

04.07.2008 10:09

Ripping a mask from someone's face is not the action of a decent and friendly chap. It is an assault.
Any play acting by this person afterwards was simply pretending to be a decent and friendly chap.

Had one of the protestors ripped this "decent and friendly chap"'s hat off you can bet that they would have reacted very differently.

Complaining against the police is useless, as they investigate themselves and never hold themselves to account. It is important to go through the motions though, otherwise they will say that everyone is happy with their actions.








A N Other


Good work!

04.07.2008 15:43

Just to say "nice one" to all involved in this. Don't quite understand how this turned into an argument about AR activists, tho. Anyone else pick up on the irony of members of the public being arrested for turning up at a public consultation?

Anon E. Mouse


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05.07.2008 06:07

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Good one

05.07.2008 22:43

Really good protest, excellent stuff.

As an activist I have to disagree with 'single issue' mentality. Yes, certain people are focused in certain areas which could easily end up resulting in single issue campaigning. But to be honest I think this can be a strength in many ways, as focusing means people do not spread out and can target companies etc much more effectively with sustained campaigning. As long as we do remember that these struggles are deeply linked and each affects the other... which I have seen constantly throughout animal rights... I do not see a problem.

Also it's easy to forget that each area is massive and people can get lost in each one pretty easily - these is so much abuse against people, the environment and animals that it really is easy to slip into one, especially if you find yourself doing something which is very effective and makes a strong impact in a reasonable time.

Just a few thoughts x

somebody


Single-Issue Campaigning

07.07.2008 11:40

Interesting that people are talking about single-issue campaigns, since NO2ID very much is one - we get our strength from only campaigning on identity cards, the National Identity Scheme and the Database State, which gives us a wide range of support from across the political spectrum. That NO2ID is prominent and active while wider-issue campaigns such as Defy-ID seem to have folded suggests that this strategy can work.

On the other hand, I don't know many people involved in NO2ID who are not involved in other forms of activism as well. NO2ID may be a single-issue campaign, but our supporters are not single-issue supporters.

- Dave Page, Manchester NO2ID Co-Ordinator

Dave Page
mail e-mail: manchester@no2id.net
- Homepage: http://manchester.no2id.net/


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