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How many kids did you kill today?

Joe Blow | 12.07.2008 19:22 | Indymedia | Terror War | London | World

I have been sitting here in my Sydney office in Commonwealth Street this morning watching articles being removed on Sydney Indymedia advertised as an open publishing service. Now I'm not a FED but I'm certainly Fed up!!!

Sydney Indymedia
Sydney Indymedia


However since the control freak started removing comments and then articles, it didn't like. Because he/she can't argue with logic? I have noticed someone continually removing this highly sensitive material about the killers and thieves, SAS soldiers who have been killing innocent Indigenous Afghanistanis. And now those who have paid the price for their ignorance and stupidity and who have now died in Afghanistan [like dogs.] Barking mad, Ruff, ruff, ruff,

I draw that person's attention to this Commonwealth statute.
Division 474 – Telecommunications offencesSubdivision C – Offences related to use oftelecommunications
A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person uses a carriage service; and
(b) theperson does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that reasonable persons would regard as being, in allthe circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive. Penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years.

[Threat article on Sydney Indymedia
 http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/die-dog-author-relevant-commonwealth-legislation]

I consider myself a reasonable person. I might even have a wank or two.

I am highly offended by the goose removing articles condemning the SAS soldiers on Indymedia. This person is obviously a control freak.

If these articles continue to disappear I fully intend to make a formal complaint to Amnesty International and given the public support to end the war and these men killing innocent families and the public outrage of these offensive acts by Australians will provoke, I am confident they will act.

If you think you can't be tracked by Telecommunications
Intelligence you are kidding yourself because that’s what we want you do fool.

You see we don't write and post articles for nothing.

No thanks to whoever keeps removing the truth about these killers and thieves.

Please discontinue to do so.

Intelligence has the means to retrieve them if they need to.

The SAS showed reckless indifference and therefore deserved to die like dogs.

You see the elite SAS went to a foreign nation and showed reckless indifference and the Afghanistani resistance had lethal weapons to fight back with and therefore the elite SAS deserved to die like a dog.

After all “one bad turn deserves another” and of course “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”.

Any person who intends to go to any foreign land to take resources and set up bases to attack others deserves to die like a dog.

From this time on any person who shall do the above has no reason nor does his/her family to argue that that person who shall steal and kill other innocent people should not die like a dog.

Sean McCarthy has become the sixth Australian to be killed in
Afghanistan, where the dreaded "improvised explosive devices" have accounted for many of the steadily rising number of casualties. The total now stands at 41.

Three soldiers were killed between October 8 and November 23, 2008.

Killer and thief David Pearce was killed by roadside bomb attack in the central Afghan province four days after his 41st birthday.

Less than three weeks later SAS Sergeant killer and thief Matthew Locke, 33, was killed by Afghanistan Indigenous Taliban resistance.

A further blow was to come in November when 26-year-old killer and thief Luke Worsely was killed in a battle in the same area, the youngest killer and thief to be lost in the attack on the sovereign nation.

On April 27 this year, a fierce gunbattle between indigenous Taliban resisters and the 4RAR commando unit in the same province claimed the life of the fifth Australian killer and thief to die in the conflict.

Four men were wounded and killer and thief Lance Corporal Jason Marks, 27, was killed.

Now under the heading crime prevention which is more than I can say for the moderator who removes statements made in articles to make his Indymedia look good?

If you kill and take you will die like a dog and you would have deserved the same. So don't kill and take resources that don't belong to you. If your country says you should then they are lying to you. If your mother and father says you can then they are lying to you. If you think you need that job to kill and steal because it is the only one you could get then you are wrong. Go and steal off rich people and live.

If no one deserves to die then how come so many innocent Middle Eastern people are dead? Because of corporate media and power control freaks on indymedia who have decided to make themselves look good opposed to independent media. In short arsehole you are not there to decide for other people what is right and what is wrong.

Elite SAS killed in Afghanistan

 http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/elite-sas-killed-afghanistan

Re: Yep don't hate Indymedia be the media
These articles are not meant to make Sydney Indymedia look good. If you hate that then please go moderate somewhere else. Preferably somewhere that you are wanted.

Re: When Johnny never came marching home again

He got a pine box, which he deserved.

Army chief admits morale concerns over lack of combat

Australian Army chief Lieutenant General Peter Leahy says he is aware of discontent among infantry soldiers who feel they are carrying out too many non-combat duties in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Lieutenant General Leahy was responding to public criticism from two infantry officers who have written in the Australian Army Journal.

The officers claim that some soldiers are sometimes ashamed to wear the Australian uniform and have been treated with "near contempt" by allies in Iraq and Afghanistan because they are involved in such low-risk missions.

One of the authors, Major Jim Hammett, says there is a widespread perception amongst troops that the army is "plagued by institutional cowardice".

In a separate article, Captain Greg Colton says there is frustration that the infantry are getting second rate operations ad compared to the special forces.

The officers say the policy of leaving Australian combat operations to SAS and other special operations troops is having a detrimental effect on the morale of regular infantrymen.

Lieutenant General Leahy has told ABC NewsRadio he is aware that some infantry soldiers are not happy about being excluded from combat action, but he says that simply reflects the changing role of the military.

"I can assure Jim [Major Hammett] and all the infantrymen we're not forgetting them, we know they're got those skills, and when we need them we'll ask them to do that," he said.

"What we've seen is the changing nature of war - this is no longer infantry wearing red jackets and white cross straps, taking on the army of another king," he said.

"What we're seeing now is that we're required to work in different populations to work to protect, to support and persuade.

"And the important work that our infantry are doing in the
Solomon Islands, in East Timor, and other places, gives us a clear indication of that.

"Army retention figures are the best we've seen in about five years," he added.

"We have more people staying in the army for longer than we have for quite a while, and I might add that our recruitment figures at the moment are sky high - particularly for the infantry."

The Australian Defence Association (ADA) says the infantry should be given more combat roles.

ADA executive director Neil James says Australian officers are feeling inadequate as they watch other nations' infantry in combat against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

"We need to use the infantry more offensively," he said.

"Basically, most of their duties are predominantly protective, and this is the problem. They have fairly severe restrictions on what they're allowed to do, not just formally but informally, in that the role they're allocated is mainly protecting the engineers in
Afghanistan."

 http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/27/2256545.htm?section=justin

Unknown News

"News that's not known, or not known enough."

-- IN AFGHANISTAN --

8,587 AFGHAN TROOPS KILLED
and 25,761 SERIOUSLY INJURED July 2004

3,485 AFGHAN CIVILIANS KILLED
and 6,273 SERIOUSLY INJURED July 2004

342 U.S. TROOPS KILLED
and 1,026 SERIOUSLY INJURED Jan. 2007

278 OTHER COALITION TROOPS KILLED
and 834 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007

? U.S. and COALITION CIVILIANS KILLED
and ? SERIOUSLY INJURED

-- IN IRAQ --

30,000 IRAQI TROOPS KILLED
and 90,000 SERIOUSLY INJURED Aug. 2003

785,957 IRAQI CIVILIANS KILLED
and 1,414,723 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007

3,615 U.S. TROOPS KILLED
and 50,677 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007

287 OTHER COALITION TROOPS KILLED
and 861 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007

160 U.S. CIVILIANS KILLED
and 288 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007

251 OTHER COALITION CIVILIANS KILLED
and 452 SERIOUSLY INJURED June 2007

 http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html

In 1998, Dick Cheney, now US vice-president but then chief executive of a major oil services company, remarked: "I cannot think of a time when we have had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian." But the oil and gas there is worthless until it is moved. The only route which makes both political and economic sense is through Afghanistan. [Guardian]

IT'S ALL ABOUT OIL!

As a result of sharply deteriorating political conditions in the region, Unocal, which serves as the development manager for the Central Asia Gas (CentGas) pipeline consortium, has suspended all activities involving the proposed pipeline project in Afghanistan.

From the 1998 Congressional Record.
Emphasis added to text.

U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN
REPUBLICS HEARING BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ASIA AND THE PACIFIC
OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION
FEBRUARY 12, 1998

Next we would like to hear from Mr. John J. Maresca, vice president of international relations, Unocal Corporation. You may proceed as you wish.

STATEMENT OF JOHN J. MARESCA, VICE
PRESIDENT OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, UNOCAL CORPORATION

Mr. Maresca. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's nice to see you again. I am John Maresca, vice president for international relations of the Unocal Corporation. Unocal, as you know, is one of the world's leading energy resource and project development companies. I appreciate your invitation to speak here today. I believe these hearings are important and timely. I congratulate you for focusing on Central Asia oil and gas reserves and the role they play in shaping U.S. policy.

I would like to focus today on three issues. First, the need for multiple pipeline routes for Central Asian oil and gas resources.

Second, the need for U.S. support for international and regional efforts to achieve balanced and lasting political settlements to the conflicts in the region, including Afghanistan. Third, the need for structured assistance to encourage economic reforms and the development of appropriate investment climates in the region. In this regard, we specifically support repeal or removal of section 907 of the Freedom
Support Act.

Mr. Chairman, the Caspian region contains tremendous untapped hydrocarbon reserves. Just to give an idea of the scale, proven natural gas reserves equal more than 236 trillion cubic feet. The region's total oil reserves may well reach more than 60 billion barrels of oil.

Some estimates are as high as 200 billion barrels. In 1995, the region was producing only 870,000 barrels per day. By 2010, western companies could increase production to about 4.5 million barrels a day, an increase of more than 500 percent in only 15 years. If this occurs, the region would represent about 5 percent of the world's total oil production.

One major problem has yet to be resolved: how to get the region's vast energy resources to the markets where they are needed. Central Asia is isolated. Their natural resources are land locked, both geographically and politically. Each of the countries in the Caucasus and Central Asia faces difficult political challenges. Some have unsettled wars or latent conflicts. Others have evolving systems where the laws and even the courts are dynamic and changing. In addition, a chief technical obstacle which we in the industry face in transporting oil is the region's existing pipeline infrastructure.

Because the region's pipelines were constructed during the Moscow-centered Soviet period, they tend to head north and west toward Russia. There are no connections to the south and east. But Russia is currently unlikely to absorb large new quantities of foreign oil. It's unlikely to be a significant market for new energy in the next decade. It lacks the capacity to deliver it to other markets.

Two major infrastructure projects are seeking to meet the need for additional export capacity. One, under the aegis of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium, plans to build a pipeline west from the northern Caspian to the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk. Oil would then go by tanker through the Bosporus to the Mediterranean and world markets.

The other project is sponsored by the Azerbaijan International Operating Company, a consortium of 11 foreign oil companies, including four American companies, Unocal, Amoco, Exxon and Pennzoil. This consortium conceives of two possible routes, one line would angle north and cross the north Caucasus to Novorossiysk. The other route would cross Georgia to a shipping terminal on the Black Sea. This second route could be extended west and south across Turkey to the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan.

But even if both pipelines were built, they would not have enough total capacity to transport all the oil expected to flow from the region in the future. Nor would they have the capability to move it to the right markets. Other export pipelines must be built.

At Unocal, we believe that the central factor in planning these pipelines should be the location of the future energy markets that are most likely to need these new supplies. Western Europe, Central and Eastern Europe, and the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union are all slow growth markets where demand will grow at only a half a percent to perhaps 1.2 percent per year during the period 1995 to 2010.

Asia is a different story all together. It will have a rapidly increasing energy consumption need. Prior to the recent turbulence in the Asian Pacific economies, we at Unocal anticipated that this region's demand for oil would almost double by 2010. Although the short-term increase in demand will probably not meet these expectations, we stand behind our long-term estimates.

I should note that it is in everyone's interest that there be adequate supplies for Asia's increasing energy requirements. If Asia's energy needs are not satisfied, they will simply put pressure on all world markets, driving prices upwards everywhere.

The key question then is how the energy resources of Central Asia can be made available to nearby Asian markets. There are two possible solutions, with several variations. One option is to go east across China, but this would mean constructing a pipeline of more than 3,000 kilometers just to reach Central China. In addition, there would have to be a 2,000-kilometer connection to reach the main population centers along the coast. The question then is what will be the cost of transporting oil through this pipeline, and what would be the netback which the producers would receive.

For those who are not familiar with the terminology, the netback is the price which the producer receives for his oil or gas at the well head after all the transportation costs have been deducted. So it's the price he receives for the oil he produces at the well head.

The second option is to build a pipeline south from Central Asia to the Indian Ocean. One obvious route south would cross Iran, but this is foreclosed for American companies because of U.S. sanctions
legislation. The only other possible route is across Afghanistan, which has of course its own unique challenges. The country has been involved in bitter warfare for almost two decades, and is still divided by civil war. From the outset, we have made it clear that construction of the pipeline we have proposed across Afghanistan could not begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders, and our company.

Mr. Chairman, as you know, we have worked very closely with the University of Nebraska at Omaha in developing a training program for Afghanistan which will be open to both men and women, and which will operate in both parts of the country, the north and south.

Unocal foresees a pipeline which would become part of a regional system that will gather oil from existing pipeline infrastructure in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Russia. The 1,040-mile long oil pipeline would extend south through Afghanistan to an export terminal that would be constructed on the Pakistan coast. This 42-inch diameter pipeline will have a shipping capacity of one million barrels of oil per day. The estimated cost of the project, which is similar in scope to the trans-Alaska pipeline, is about $2.5 billion.

Given the plentiful natural gas supplies of Central Asia, our aim is to link gas resources with the nearest viable markets. This is basic for the commercial viability of any gas project. But these projects also face geopolitical challenges. Unocal and the Turkish company Koc Holding are interested in bringing competitive gas supplies to Turkey. The proposed Eurasia natural gas pipeline would transport gas from Turkmenistan directly across the Caspian Sea through Azerbaijan and Georgia to Turkey. Of course the demarcation of the Caspian remains an issue.

Last October, the Central Asia Gas Pipeline Consortium, called CentGas, in which Unocal holds an interest, was formed to develop a gas pipeline which will link Turkmenistan's vast Dauletabad gas field with markets in Pakistan and possibly India. The proposed 790-mile pipeline will open up new markets for this gas, traveling from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Multan in Pakistan. The proposed extension would move gas on to New Delhi, where it would connect with an existing pipeline.

As with the proposed Central Asia oil pipeline, CentGas can not begin construction until an internationally recognized Afghanistan Government is in place.

The Central Asia and Caspian region is blessed with abundant oil and gas that can enhance the lives of the region's residents, and provide energy for growth in both Europe and Asia. The impact of these resources on U.S. commercial interests and U.S. foreign policy is also significant. Without peaceful settlement of the conflicts in the region, cross-border oil and gas pipelines are not likely to be built.

We urge the Administration and the Congress to give strong support to the U.N.-led peace process in Afghanistan. The U.S. Government should use its influence to help find solutions to all of the region's conflicts.

U.S. assistance in developing these new economies will be crucial to business success. We thus also encourage strong technical assistance programs throughout the region. Specifically, we urge repeal or removal of section 907 of the Freedom Support Act. This section unfairly restricts U.S. Government assistance to the government of Azerbaijan and limits U.S. influence in the region.

Developing cost-effective export routes for Central Asian resources is a formidable task, but not an impossible one. Unocal and other American companies like it are fully prepared to undertake the job and to make Central Asia once again into the crossroads it has been in the past.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

US Policy On Taliban Influenced By Oil Deal Negotiations

The two claim that the US government's main objective in Afghanistan was to consolidate the position of the Taliban regime to obtain access to the oil and gas reserves in Central Asia.

They affirm that until August [2001], the US government saw the Taliban regime "as a source of stability in Central Asia that would enable the construction of an oil pipeline across Central Asia" from the rich oilfields in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan, through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Indian Ocean. Until now, says the book, "the oil and gas reserves of Central Asia have been controlled by Russia. The Bush government wanted to change all that."

Click image for full size

But, confronted with Taliban's refusal to accept US conditions, "this rationale of energy security changed into a military one", the authors claim.

"At one moment during the negotiations, the US representatives told the Taliban, 'either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs,'" Brisard said in an interview in Paris.

The US government informed other nations of it's plan to invade Afghanistan months before the 9/11 attacks

9 September 2001: Bush given Afghanistan invasion plan

7 October 2001: Bush announces opening of Afghanistan attacks

13 June 2002: Hamid Karzai Elected as New Afghan Leader
(Former Unocal Consultant)

27 December 2002: Afghanistan Pipeline Deal signed

An agreement has been signed in the Turkmen capital, Ashgabat, paving the way for construction of a gas pipeline from the Central Asian republic through Afghanistan to Pakistan.

The building of the trans-Afghanistan pipeline has been under discussion for some years but plans have been held up by Afghanistan's unstable political situation.

See also: Is the world's oil running out fast?

What Really Happened
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/oil.html

Investigation finds US strike hit wedding, killed 47 Afghans

An official investigation has found that US-led air strikes a week ago struck a wedding and killed 47 Afghan civilians, most of them women and children, an official said.

The US-led coalition has steadfastly denied that it killed civilians in the July 6 strikes in the mountains of eastern Nangarhar province, saying only extremist militants had died.
But a nine-member team appointed by President Hamid Karzai to look into the incident found that only civilians were killed in the strikes in remote Deh Bala district, the head of the mission, Burhanullah Shinwari said.

"We found that 47 civilians, mostly women and children, were killed in the air strikes and another nine were wounded," said Shinwari, who is also the deputy speaker of Afghanistan's senate.

"They were all civilians and had no links with Taliban or Al Qaeda," he said.

The team - which included representatives of the defence and interior ministries, parliament, and provincial councils - met relatives of the dead and were shown bloodied clothes of women and children, Mr Shinwari said.

The findings have yet to be presented to President Karzai.

Civilians are regularly caught in the crossfire of the insurgency launched after the hardline Islamic Taliban regime was removed from power in late 2001 in a US-led invasion.

 http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/11/2301717.htm?section=justin

Related:

"Die like a dog" author: Relevant Commonwealth Legislation
Posted July 11th, 2008 by Anonymous

I have been sitting here in my Canberra office in Russell today watching the goings on at this website since things have been quiet around here. I have noticed someone continually posting highly offensive material about the SAS soldier who died in Afghanistan.

I draw that person's attention to this Commonwealth statute.

Division 474 – Telecommunications offencesSubdivision C – Offences related to use oftelecommunications
A person is guilty of an offence if:
?(a) the person uses a carriage service; and
?(b) theperson does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that reasonable persons would regard as being, in allthe circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive.
Penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years.

I consider myself a reasonable person. I might even hold a rank or two. I am highly offended by the articles condemning the SAS soldier Sean McCarthy.

If these articles continue to appear I fully intend to make a formal complaint to the Australian Federal Police and given the public support of this man's mourning family and the public outrage these offensive articles will provoke I am confident they will act. If you think you can't be tracked by Telecommunications Intelligence you are kidding yourself.

Thank you to whoever keeps removing these abhorrent messages about a fallen soldier. Please continue to do so. Telecommunications Intelligence have the means to retrieve them if they need to.

 http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/die-dog-author-relevant-commonwealth-legislation

homepage::  http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/die-dog-author-relevant-commonwealth-legislation

Joe Blow

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