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BNP uses 10th Jan London Israeli embassy riots to garner support

Matt S | 12.01.2009 00:01 | Anti-racism | Migration | Palestine

"Mass Third World immigration has turned London into a Middle East battleground, with an estimated 50,000 Muslims and a handful of extremist Communists violently attacking police and looting shops yesterday." (according to the BNP).

Take a look at:

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/01/third-world-immigration-turns-london-into-middle-east-battleground/

or

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LccN1kDBU (the BNP make their articles available in audio and video files for those of their supporters not intelligent enough to read!)

In summary, the BNP are using Saturday's protests against the war on Gaza, which were largely peaceful but turned violent later in the day, to argue that immigration and Islam are a bad thing. (Just to disprove their propaganda, I'm not a communist, in fact I am an upper-middle class capitalist, but I was at yesterday's demo.)

Personally, I am disgusted. I happen to be white, British and Christian, but I am continually appalled by the growing Islamophobia and racism amongst the British population. I hope that my personal view is still, by far, the majority.

Matt S

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Thanks to Matt

12.01.2009 11:09

Thanks to Matt for posting. It is good to see that Palestine demos are being supported by a cross-section of society, as well as the fact that a wide variety of people stand against Islamophobia, racism and fascism.

Jon

just some thoughts

12.01.2009 12:44

The unfrotunate thing with the term Islamaphobia is that it wraps together two ways of thinking in one convenient package: Stigmatisation of those who believe in it and criticism of Islam as a religion.

Although I feel the first is absurd, I strongly believe that people should be allowed to criticise Islam as a religion, in the same way that they can criticise anything else. I can criticise the religion of Jehovah Witnesses, Jews, Christians etc. But if I criticise Islam, I am immediately labeled Islamaphobic - implying i am an evil person. Unfortunately, people now use this term to address even the tiniest criticisms, thus totally removing any opportunity for discussion.

Paul

At Meeting at a muslim community centre in nottingham,there was criticism of Isl

12.01.2009 14:10

Islamic fundamentalists& Hamas & the hundreds of people there listened to every word.

Universal Confederalist

universal sufism & universalist philosophy mentioned,Jews vs zionism there also

12.01.2009 14:16

Islamic fundamentalists& Hamas & the hundreds of people there listened to every word.

Universal Confederalist

Just some answers

12.01.2009 14:16

"The unfrotunate thing with the term Islamaphobia is that it wraps together two ways of thinking in one convenient package: Stigmatisation of those who believe in it and criticism of Islam as a religion."

This is BS. Islamophobia simply means prejudice against Muslims, it does not and never has implied that it includes any criticism of Islam. Sounds like BNP trolling to me.

Anonymous

Paul is right

12.01.2009 14:42

Just by the comment above it proves Paul point.

The point is that prejudice and critique of islam are both tarnished with Islamophobia. When some hates gays they are more than just prejudice againsts gays they actively against homosexuality.

I am against Islam, but I have no problems with people who define themselves as muslims in anycase I will treat them as they are - human beings first.

Paul is wrong

12.01.2009 16:31

It is so absurd to suggest we can criticise one religion and not another, and no one else ever claimed that is the case, so that is a 'straw-man' argument.

The problem lies in the motivation for slagging one religion at the time of a perceived genocide against that religion. Our country and corporations have slaughtered millions of muslims since the USSR fell, and so us criticising Islam just now is as inappropriate as a German in 1945 criticising Judaism.

It is the equivalent of going to a funeral in Gaza and telling a grieving parent that they're kids may have been killed for religious reasons but they aren't going to heaven, they are just dead never to live again. A humanist would believe that to be true but hopefully find it inhumane and unthinkable.

ambigram

'We hate all Pakis equally' - local BNP

12.01.2009 17:04

I had the opportunity to interview my local BNP about their political view of Middle Eastern conflicts. I joked that they must feel conflicted seeing Jew fight Muslim in Palestine. Their response was 'No, we hate all Pakis'. I asked if that meant support for India if not Israel they replied 'No, we hate all Pakis equally'.

They divide the world up into 'Paki' and 'non-Paki', with the 'non-Paki' population being exactly equivalent to Hitlers aryan master-race. Except they can't say that in public because they aren't royalty.

ambigram

'middle easterners turn london into a battleground'

12.01.2009 18:20

I found this part especially funny "the fact that the Islamist mob is supported by a handful of extremist Communist “Socialist Worker” cranks (who, when they are not helping Islamists riot in London, are organising anti-BNP demonstrations".

Do they know that the guy who threw the cider bottle through the Starbucks window was a young (white) English man? Or maybe he was just under the mind control of evil Middle Easterner's and their jihad way...apparentally rioting is also a foreign import, who knew?

That slippery git will twist anything around to suit his purposes. Griffin, I mean, not the Starbucks Smasher.

Saturday Survivor

well said saturday surviour

12.01.2009 18:53

i was there on saturday too. and i thought one of the great things about the march was the diversity of different organisations and affilations.

what the bnp said is an ignorant, mis-informed pile of dog turd.

BNP website

12.01.2009 20:52

oh my days, that website.....

it makes me physically sick!

especially this bit..

"British voters stand before a historic choice. They can choose to endorse the Labour/Tory treason con trick, and accept that the scenes in London yesterday are to become the norm; or they can vote BNP and ensure that this nation remains British."

pffft if the BNP got into power there'd be riots in every town!!!

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