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Israeli General talking at London Student Centre

Jacksonian | 29.01.2009 14:13

TALK BY ISRAELI GENERAL AT HEAD OF GAZA OPERATION, LONDON STUDENT CENTRE,
THURSDAY>

163 euston road, 6.30 pm.


This is the text of their press release. I don't have any more info, so if anyone else does, please add.


London Jsocs will be hosting Colonel Geva Rapp, the head of> the ground operations in Gaza (Operation Cast Lead)!> > This talk should be extremely interesting and valuable.

However, please do not talk about this event on facebook due to
security concerns and current high tension surrounding the conflict.

'Aish UK together with London JSocs and Panim el Panim are hosting> Colonel Geva Rapp (IDF reserves)for a lightning tour of the UK this> week. Colonel Rapp was the deputy commander of ground forces in> Operation Cast Lead in Gaza this month.> Geva is the Founder and Director of Panim el Panim- an organisation> committed to unity in Israel and the teaching of Jewish values amongst> young Israelis in preparation for their army service

Jacksonian

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venue

29.01.2009 14:43

I think it might be here:  http://www.ujs-online.co.uk/news/c-499/brand-new-london-student-centre-opens


2nd floor
4 Greenland Place
Camden Town
London
NW1 0AP

Telephone:
0207 424 3299
Out of Hours:
5.30pm Mon - Thurs, 3pm Fri & Closed Sat - Sun
Fax:
020 7424 3295
Email:
 ujs@ujs.org.uk

jo


Hillel Student Centre, Upper Woburn Place

29.01.2009 14:43

is apparently the venue. See you there.

Anne


Re: Venue

29.01.2009 14:51

I'm note sure where you got the Camden Town address. The page you link to says it's on the corner of Upper Woburn Place and Euston Road. I think the Camden Town address is just the office for UJS / Hillel.

Anne


citizens arrest anyone?

29.01.2009 15:05

for war crimes / crimes against humanity.
maybe the police should be informed...

citizen


Better check it out

29.01.2009 16:05

Be VERY clear about your rules on "citizen's arrest".

If it is anything like over here, you are NOT "immune" the way the police are. That means the outcome depends on whether the procedings against whomever you successfully arrest or attempt to arrest (and get your teeth smashed down your face) get to at least a certain point.

Here it would vary jurisdiction to jurisdiction how far along. No, you wouldn't necessarily need the prosecution to get as far as conviction (not anywhere here) but would certainly have to get as far as a successful "booking" (everywhere here) and from place to place differs on how far along fin between those or you to be safe.

The point here is that YOU have zero defense against the assault an battery and false imprisonment/kidnap if you fail (you have in effect confessed when you brought the person in).

Understand? Somebody (here) tries to grab me in a "citizen's arrest" unless I am very certain the case against me will succeed they have just chosen to engage in a fight in which they, not I, will be judged the agrressor -- one possibly escalating to deadly force. I WILL chose to fight so that there can be no question of my counter charges being defeated by a defense that I "went willingly" and so was not battered and/or kidnapped. When it's the police, I am not allowed to resist even if I can beat the charges. But when it is is just you as a citizen, I am.

I am NOT saying don't do this. I am saying "get legal advice first". Know exactly what rules you will be operating under and then choose your course of action with eyes open.

MDN


Policing of the 1982 Miners Strike

29.01.2009 17:49

Wasn't there a bloke from Amnesty International who convinced a police force to arrest Pinochet? I've a feeling this was because Jack Straw doesn't like Pinochet. If the MET were to refuse to arrest such a well documented war criminal as FashSoc's guest it would be further evidence of "political policing". It sounds like there are a number of intended venues but I imagine he'll cancel for fear of arrest.

State of Siege


Project SOS supported by Chabad -Lubavitch

29.01.2009 18:04

Colonel Geva Rapp receives the full support of the jewish extremist sect Chabad-Lubavitch.

 http://crownheights.ch/blog/blog.php?bid=3713

Chabad Gives IDF Soldiers An Inspired Sendoff

 http://lubavitch.com/news/article/2025072/Chabad-Gives-IDF-Soldiers-An-Inspired-Sendoff.html

More of that kind you can google if you feel inclined to see more of it.

And now you can read what kind of criminally insane and extremist beliefs Chabad-Lubavitch holds and teaches. Sorry for the very long quote but it's so well worth reading each word of it :

Excerpts from :

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Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel

by Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky

Chapter Four : The National Religious Party and the Religious Settlers

A modern and influential expression of the attitudes derived above is evident in the teachings and writings of the late "Lubovitcher Rebbe," Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, who headed the Chabad movement and wielded great influence among many religious Jews in Israel as well as in the United States. Schneerson and his Lubovitch followers are Haredim; nevertheless, they involved themselves in Israel's political life and shared many concepts with Gush Emunim and the NRP. The ideas of Rabbi Schneerson that appear below are taken from a book of his recorded messages to followers in Israel, titled Gatherings of Conversations and published in the Holy Land in 1965. During the subsequent three decades of his life until his death, Rabbi Schneerson remained consistent; he did not change any of the opinions. What Rabbi Scheerson taught either was or immediately became official, Lubovitch, Hassidic belief.

Regarding the non-Jew the Lubovitcher Rebbe's views were clear even if a bit disorderly: "In such a manner the Halacha, stipulated by the Talmud, showed that a non-Jew should be punished by death if he kills an embryo, even if the embryo is non-Jewish, while the Jew should not be, even if the embryo is Jewish. As we [the talmudic sages] learn from Exodus 22:21, beginning with the words 'and if any mischief will follow."' This quoted verse is a part of a passage beginning in verse 21, describing what should be done "if men strive and hurt a woman with child," thus damaging the embryo. Verse 22, whose beginning is quoted by the Lubovitcher Rebbe, says in full: "And if any mischief will follow, then you shall give soul for soul." (Some English translations use the wording "life for life" instead of "soul for soul.") The above stated difference in the punishment of a Jew and a non-Jew for the same crime is common in the Talmud and Halacha.

The Lubovitcher Rebbe continued:

The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person sterns from the common expression: "Let us differentiate." Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have a case of "let us differentiate" between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of [members] of all nations of the world ... The Old Rabbi [a pseudonym for one of the holy Lubovitch rabbis] explained that the passage in Chapter 49 of Hatanya [the basic book of Chabad]: "And you have chosen us" [the Jews] means specifically that the Jewish body was chosen [by God], because a choice is thus made between outwardly similar things. The Jewish body "looks as if it were in substance similar to bodies of non-Jews," but the meaning ... is that the bodies only seem to be similar in material substance, outward look and superficial quality. The difference of the inner quality, however, is so great that the bodies should be considered as completely different species. This is the reason why the Talmud states that there is an halachic difference in attitude about the bodies of non-Jews [as opposed to the bodies of Jews]" "their bodies are in vain." ... An even greater difference exists in regard to the soul. Two contrary types of soul exist, a non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness. As has been explained, an embryo is called a human being, because it has both body and soul. Thus, the difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish embryo can be understood. There is also a difference in bodies. The body of a Jewish embryo is on a higher level than is the body of a non-Jew. This is expressed in the phrase "let us differentiate" about the body of a non-Jew, which is a totally different kind. The same difference exists in regard to the soul: the soul of a Jewish embryo is different than the soul of a non-Jewish embryo. We therefore ask: Why should a non-Jew be punished if he kills even a non-Jewish embryo while a Jew should not be punished even if he kills a Jewish embryo? The answer can be understood by [considering] the general difference between Jews and non-Jews: A Jew was not created as a means for some [other] purpose; he himself is the purpose, since the substance of all [divine] emanations was created only to serve the Jews."In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" [Genesis 1:1] means that [the heavens and the earth] were created for the sake of the Jews, who are called the "beginning." This means everything, all developments, all discoveries, the creation, including the "heavens and the earth-are vanity compared to the Jews. The important things are the Jews, because they do not exist for any [other] aim; they themselves are [the divine] aim."

After some additional cabbalistic explanation the Lubovitcher Rebbe concluded:

Following from what has already been said, it can be understood why a non-Jew should be punished by death if he kills an embryo and why a Jew should not be punished by death. The difference between the embryo and a [baby that was] born is that the embryo is not a self-contained reality but rather is subsidiary; either it is subsidiary to its mother or to the reality created after birth when the [divine] purpose of its creation is then fulfilled. In its present state the purpose is still absent. A non-Jew's entire reality is only vanity. It is written,"And the strangers shall stand and feed your flocks" [Isaiah 61:5]. The entire creation [of a non-Jew] exists only for the sake of the Jews. Because of this a non-Jew should be punished with death if he kills an embryo, while a Jew, whose existence is most important, should not be punished with death because of something subsidiary. We should not destroy an important thing for the sake of something subsidiary. It is true that there is a prohibition against [hurting] an embryo, because it is something that will be born in the future and in a hidden form already exists. The death penalty should be implicated only when visible matters are affected; as previously noted, the embryo is merely of subsidiary importance.

 http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/nrp_and_settlers.html

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There are pics of war criminal Gaby Askhenazi in company of Chabad rabbis in Miami USA.

There are many instances of war criminal Ehud Olmert photographed in company of Lev Leviev and/or Berel Lazar, two of the most prominent Chabad members.

There are countless instances of non-jewish politicians photographed associating with Chabad rabbis to perform jewish religious cermonies. A pattern that seems to affect nearly the entire planet, former US president and war criminal George W. Bush and his now defunct administration the most prominently.

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