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Ian Tomlinson "died of internal haemmorhage" - coroner

jobby mcwhomp | 17.04.2009 14:37 | G20 London Summit | Repression

G20 protestor who died after being struck by police found to have died of internal haemmorrhaging.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8004222.stm

BBC reports that Ian Tomlinson's second post-mortem has concluded that he died of internal haemmorrhaging, NOT, as the initial reports claimed, a heart attack or pre-existing coronary conditions.

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GET ANGRY!!!

17.04.2009 16:08

Need i say more?

Angry


Times reports the same

17.04.2009 19:41

The times online has the same report, it is disgusting a second forensic analysis has been necessary for this. Those sick bastards from the media had already told everyone about the hard attack, and now it turns out an internal bleeding... Oh yeah...what about those dangerous demonstrators stopping medical help to Ian?

Once again, British police wants to get away with murder, will the manage to achieve it? I would not bet too much agaisn them.

John


Hey journos....

17.04.2009 21:18

Here's summat for you to investigate -if you're really up for it.

Who conducted the first post-mortem? Who holds the relevant notes and records? Ian's family should be able to get these through FOIA.

Looks like there's a doctor who is either;

(a) professionally incompetent enough to have made a serious error,

or

(b) corruptly produced results known to be false to support the initial police lies.

The speed with which the first post-mortem was carried out was very unusual.

Stroppyoldgit


How many more?

18.04.2009 09:51

This makes me wonder how many more Post Mortem results have been "fixed" by Police. They can pervert the course of these by appointing a bent pathologist to do it. I recall Christopher Alder who died in Police custody, another death at the hands of Police and then they conspired to cover it up.

Jolly Roger


Ah, Stroppyoldgit

18.04.2009 14:15


Fraid The Guardian are way ahead of you on that one - they did some digging at least a week or so ago and ran a piece about how the original coroner, Dr Freddy Patel, had been reprimanded by the GMC before. He had released medical details of a 30-year-old man, Roger Sylvester, who died in police custody. He also claimed a murder victim died of natural causes, a slip that allowed her killer to go on and murder two other women and mutilate their bodies.

Norvello


no

18.04.2009 14:39

In the initial post Mort there was blood found around some internal organs but the coroner did not believe that this was the primary cause of death, the second Post challenged this (as a second post is designed to do) and noted poor state of the subjects internal organs with a possible cause for this to be prolonged alcohol exposure spaning years.
It was also noteworthy that the blow required to cause a normal healthy person to have trauma based hemo is about that sustained in a major road accident or a fall from a substancial hight.

In the end everyone dies of heart attack...everyone.

as for the last poster, to surgest that a coroner (highest court in the land) is complicit in the death or of any deliberate altering of facts is plain fantasy bassed on a personal attitude not fact, something fairly common these days.

just the facts ma'am, just the facts.

anon


Anonymous - my facts are fine, how are yours?

20.04.2009 09:16

"as for the last poster, to surgest that a coroner (highest court in the land) is complicit in the death or of any deliberate altering of facts is plain fantasy bassed on a personal attitude not fact, something fairly common these days."

Did I say it was deliberate? No - I described it as a "slip".

How dare you describe my comments as "plain fantasy" rather than facts. Go get the GMC judgement.

And if you can't be bothered to do that, just read this:

"Dr Freddy Patel
Patel, who conducted the first postmortem and concluded that Ian Tomlinson had died of a heart attack, was once reprimanded about his professional conduct by the General Medical Council after he released medical details about Roger Sylvester, a 30-year-old black man who died in police custody.

He told reporters: "I am aware from the medical records ... that Mr Sylvester was a user of crack cocaine." Sylvester's family were devastated by the suggestion and contested that he been a user.

In a second case, which raised questions about Dr Patel's findings, police dropped a criminal investigation after the pathologist gave it as his opinion that the victim, Sally White, had died of natural causes. Anthony Hardy, a psychiatrically-disturbed alcoholic, who lived in the flat where the body was found, went on to murder two other women and mutilate their bodies."


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/18/ian-tomlinson-postmortem-doctors




Norvello


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