From experience of brutality from neo nazi`s idiots and cretins, this was not a push or shove more like a kidney punch,which would cause damage to internal organs as disclosed. A private prosecution would be the next stage, the police are upping the ante ...the fools.

Splendid work.

This terrible incident is showing the growing power of new media perfectly. Digital/internet technology on our side leaves the likes of the police with very little room to duck and hide, and exposes the lies the establishment has been using for years to deflect attack from us proles. Indymedia will play an increasingly important role in these days of growing citizen-journalism, so you'd better keep those servers tucked well away.

This Daily Mail article has another CCTV camera  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169893/Riddle-missing-CCTV-film-G20-death-watchdogs-claim-cameras-proved-wrong.html
Its on a stick at the north end of the Royal Exchange passage next to the lamp post.

Well - no prizes for guessing that these upstanding and august independent PCC bods are more than a tad concerned about how the rot has been so clearly and without any doubt publicly exposed. Must be hard for them to know quite what to do. Of course, they will keep changing their stories around the emerging facts. For instance, how do we go from the first statement that the IPCC “have looked at many hours of CCTV, examined statements and police records and spoken to independent witnesses.” To this one, a mere 8 days later: "We don't have CCTV footage of the incident... there is no CCTV footage, there were no cameras in the location where he was assaulted." ?

Not only does this mean that every time there have been "issues" involving the police/ security/ army (spot the difference, if you can beyond a matter of degree) and a civilian who has come off second best, the cameras don't work. Nor did they work on 7/7. Personally, I would have fired the incompetent company that provided the CCTV kit (what was the costs involved for all of these non-working cameras?), but also for those monitoring it who didn't report the camera failures. These are, after all, the "watchful eyes" of London under which we are assured that we will all be safe. And if we feel prickly about the constant surveillance, then if we have nothing to hide then we have nothing to fear. After all, we can trust our State and our Police and all of those bods who obviously know so much more than we do. We can just relax, go to work, go to the shops, get drunk over the weekend, cheer our footie, read the Sun and be told what to think. And yes, we bought it all - hook, line and sinker.

False security aside, we also come across the interesting issue that the police themselves don't want to be photographed. Obviously our friends at FITwatch (to whom we owe an enormous debt of thanks!!) were getting too close to comfort. Of course, we all know that this is not now an instance of a few bad apples, but part of the paradigm of policing. Last night on Question Time, some gas bag was going on about "police misbehaviour and protesters' criminal actions". I was stunned: when has a protester killed someone? We are not even clear that the smashed windows weren't the result of an agent provocateur or a deliberate pressure application from the police themselves - just in front of all the cameras to substantiate the police hype of a "summer of rage" - and yet here we have some Tory politician going on about police misbehaviour and protester criminality. Killing someone isn't criminal? Wading into unarmed and non-combatative protesters sitting down isn't criminal? Does that mean that we get to do this too? And just write it all off with a tsk tsk tsk and a wave of the hand, because it is just "misbehaviour".

Look - this thing stinks. It is not going away and the weasel mainstream media are trying to not cover it, to dismiss it, to justify it, to cover it over and hope that it will go away. The Guardian so far has given it the most coverage, but part of that I think is their attempt to regain their hopelessly lost credibility after years of fellating the Blair/Brown/Bush PR campaign uncritically. I also think that far from breaking the story, they are catching up with events, and there is a sense of their playing the role of carrion-feeder. It helps sales anyway.

We need to keep this alive. We cannot let it slip away, forgotten by the mainstream media as they provide the latest theme to capture our attention and distract us with yet more bread and circuses. The Tomlinson family deserve justice; de Menezes' family deserves justice; Peach's family deserve justice still, after all these years. The general public needs to be aware that far from being the "great unwashed" the middle england curtain twitchers like to dismiss us as, we face the blunt end of the State machine. True, we are not (yet?) at out and out war, but the cops continually raise the stakes, the politicians send them out to enforce their dictates, to forge us into docile bodies that consume and convert food into labour to drive the capitalist machine that spews out huge wads of fiscal prosperity to the owners and chiefs.

Our tactics need to develop and I also think that we need to get smarter at defining what the alternatives are, in practice. The mainstream media have us all pegged as rabble rousers with a few "good" apples, but very misguided from how the world "really works". Fuck 'em, I've been enough places, over enough years to see that the way the world (allegedly) works isn't actually really working. However, we do need to start finding ways of articulating this, so that at least we have a way of demonstrating some viable alternatives. I am a card carrying Idealist. I believe things can be much better than they are, and we are not going to have too many chances to use the wave of media exposure to get our messages across. We don't want any more people to die - enough! basta! Mr Tomlinson died (RIP) and many were beaten, the police cast their dice and now must deal with the consequences of their criminality.

The problem is, is that the paradigm of policing is itself fraught with difficulties, because they have always been an instrument of the power elites. That is the debate that needs to happen: a post-police force future. This in turn is part of the larger debate concerning the nature of social organisation itself. We face a perfect storm, a convergence of multiple forces, and it is time for us to articulate what the options are. Many of us have already figured a lot of the infrastructure, whilst others have thought long and hard and developed ways of getting needs met and dealing with hierarchisation and social arrangements. We need to promote these as viable, tested and workable alternatives.

These are interesting times in which we live. The IPCC (and politicos) know it. Notice the deafening silence of the governmental parties (except the LibDems, who may/not be making political capital).

They did not die in our name, nor should they die in vain. Remind the police, the IPCC and the State of this daily. Those police who do not distance themselves from the actual culprits (those who ordered and those who executed those orders) can consider themselves accomplices after the fact, while the heads of each division can consider themselves accomplices before the fact as it is upon their respective heads that ultimate accountability rests. The charges range from culpable manslaughter to aggravated assault with a weapon, including violation of internal police rules regarding the display of identification tags, etc.

Beyond this, they are clearly lying sacks of shit.

Its worth noting: a lot of CCTV cameras are crap. Many street type cameras work on timed rotation system, flipping across 3-4 viewpoints and taking pictures about every 5 seconds. This means that one viewing angle will only have a picture took every 15-20seconds which are stored on a hard disk.

They arn't actually designed to capture a crime in progress (by filming "footage") they are just there to assist in piecing together movements and times as an evidence gathering process.

You'll be very lucky to have captured a strike on Ian with this technology because it simply isn't designed to do that.

Well put Kon FuZ Ed.

We're all FITwatch now. POV cameras are available. Patch them to a phone and send to private server live. There will be no hiding place for the brutes from now on. See a FIT, foto a FIT - be your watchword.

Nemeses'Rus..

To Mike,

what you say is true, but of the seven cameras found so far, four are fixed field of view (they don't move) and three are less than thirty meters away.

To assume that from all this there wasn't even one frame of Ian being shoved or struck seems a little unlikely.

postedby,

i cant really tell from the photos, but the 1/2globe type covered camera move inside the housing. Its too hard to tell without close inspection though.

But 5-10 second framerate is a long time to hope to capture what occurs in a blink of an eye. They only really have two purposes: to get a "mug" shot a person to help trace them or to track someones movements after a crime has occurred. Either way, its very unlikely any of them are actually filming footage.

Is there a law permitting the taking of photo's in a public place, correct me if I am wrong, but people often think there is, but there isn't. If you are on a subway, or in a train station then yes, there are laws against photography. But not as people think, taking photo's of cctv in a public place. Unless there is a very new law I have missed?