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fascist EDL in Manchester today - what's happening on the streets

@nti-fa | 10.10.2009 11:28 | Anti-racism

Not too much so far, lots of pawns moving about on a chess board without a plan...

Groups of fascists are arriving by train at Piccadilly and Salford stations certainly; those spotted at Picc are pushed by the cops through a couple of metal detecting arches. There's loads and loads of cops there, also lining most main thoroughfares, and patrolling in groups on foot, and in vehicles, with horses and dogs and Tactical Aid Units (riot cops) everywhere, especially round the Gay Village and the Northern Quarter (lots of Asian businesses there). Some stopping people, fash and anti-fash, searching sometimes videoing at same time.

There's groups of anti-fash been gathering at various places, but without a real plan or much room to manoeuvre, now some marching in too to UAF midday rally in Piccadilly Gardens. The fash are meant to be meeting in a pub on the north side of the Gardens, the Weatherspoons, but some also going in nearby pubs, waiting to come out to play at 5 in the Gardens where they have permission for a static demo.

Rumours of fash set-down or pick-up points, but nothing so far...

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Waste of public money

10.10.2009 12:08

No police would be required if the 'anti-fascists' would stay away from marches they intend to disrupt. 'Anti-fascists' need to learn tolerance and respect for the views of others. Currently they display intolerance and a contempt for the ability of their fellow citizens to hear and decide sensibly about the views of others.

I'm happy for anyone to have marches on our streets because I believe in free speech and free expression.

The police should arrest and prosecute anyone disrupting what would otherwise be a peaceful march. Any 'anti-fascist' who disrupts peacful marches should be punished severely and those under 21 should be sent to bed early and given extra homework.

Pete

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Pete is a troll, do not feed

10.10.2009 12:16

ignore this idiot, he is just looking for attention and spaming indymedia more and more each week......

Dont feed the trolls,
Homepage: http://pete the pillock.com

Peaceful protest?

10.10.2009 12:47

The EDL's first foray in 'peaceful protest' staged Luton turned into a riot with cars businesses and innocent members of the public being attacked and assaulted by them. The second attempt at peaceful protest incited violence after EDL members racially abused sections of the community.

There is no 'march' there is a static demonstration.

Ban the EDL.

Kay0lin
mail e-mail: flabbynelly@yahoo.co.uk

numbers

10.10.2009 12:58

Manchester evening news (MEN) says there's about 300 Fash and 1,000 UAF

source

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1159175_live__edl_protest_in_manchester
(newsfeed bottom of page)

latest

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any orders in place

10.10.2009 13:05

we're setting off soon,

anyone know if there any any orders in place to allow searches?

ta

on me way

Indeed, ignore the neo-nazi trolls.

10.10.2009 14:08

The trolls should return to Stormponce, leaving genuine anti-racist peeps to post actual updates of the action.

Troll Flusha!

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1300 fascists then.

10.10.2009 14:15

300 EDL and 1000 'anti-fascists' means 1300 fascists to most of the population. They are all as intolerant of the views of others and as contemptuous of the general public's ability to be exposed to all opinions without coming to the 'wrong' conclusions.

The police should arrest every single demonstrator unless these small, unrepresentative, motley bands of misfits agree to have their marches on different days so that they can be ignored by the majority of us and require no expensive police presence. I wonder just how many of the juvenile and scruffy looking EDL and 'anti-fascist' demonstrators actually pay income and council tax?

Pete

Protest numbers

10.10.2009 14:23

GMP estimate around 600 EDL at Piccadilly Gardens and around a 1000 anti-EDL protestors

Trev

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Continued Troll Alert

10.10.2009 14:25

Yawn!!!

Troll Destroya!

Check the MEN website - it has

10.10.2009 14:57

a great live feed and videos. Pretty good stuff

Tom

Arrests

10.10.2009 14:58

GMP police state a total of 30 arrests have been made so far.

Trevor

Live minute by minute coverage

10.10.2009 14:59

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1159175_live__edl_protest_in_manchester

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EDL violence

10.10.2009 15:00

EDL members have been arrested for attacks on Police. Bottles and Planks have been thrown at police lines.

Trevor

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Yet another disgraceful display

10.10.2009 15:51

by the intolerant anti-fascists. They seem intent on associating EDL demos with disorder and violence, something they can only achieve by disrupting the events themselves.

The 'anti-fascists' don't seem to do their own demos that often. They seem to be experts at disrupting everyone else's, just like the forces of an authoritarian, intolerant, fascist government.

Pete

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The English Defence League are not fascist!

10.10.2009 16:20

The English Defence League are not fascist they were set up to oppose Islamic extremism and Islamic terrorism. Are you saying that anyone who opposes Islamic extremism is a fascist?

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/

English Defence League member

Unlawful section 60 arrest?

10.10.2009 17:48

A lad got nicked today for not not taking off a mask (under section 60, i think) but the copper didn't give him chance to take it off.

She was on (number 9002) horse back and came right up to us and asked the lad to take off his mask he refused and asked under what law and she said section 560 and that had him nicked by some others on foot.

She didn't give him enough time to remove his mask after telling him about the section 60, surely this is an unlawful arrest?

Does anyone know anything about him?

He seemed pretty young and i feel bad for him

anti-fash

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Not Lovin' neo-Nazi EDL Trolls!

10.10.2009 17:49

EDL supporters post on Stormfront, today as always EDL supporters were captured on camera making Hitler salutes, they call Asian people "pakis" on football forums up and down the country, they use extreme violence, and they hold up signs that say "no more mosques".

Scumbag Islamophobe Kelway's top facebook friends have SS ensignias.

But of course, heaven forbid, the EDL cannot be nazis!

Pull the other one.

Anyway, enough brainless far right propaganda posts on here. Fuck off back to Stormfront, and switch the lights back ON after you, scumbag! Call me a "race-traitor" if you like, I'm white and I am proud to state that Muslim people are here to stay in Britain, and one day, there will be no racists left to ruin the country, when the New Labour government grows testicles and bans fascist twats like the BNP and the EDL.

Troll Wrecka!

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4 legs good, two legs bad

10.10.2009 22:03

bet that person that keeps putting the troll alert sign up thinks s/he is so cool
Maybe i should get one when i disagree with anything lol !
You can't keeping troll naming people because you just disagree with them.
What are you? A sheep?

I'm mean for f*** sakes. grow up and write something with meaningful opinions or facts rather than just repeating by rote.

Majority

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Racist White Majority

10.10.2009 22:18

For "Majority" read racist white majority.

Fuck off white supremacist scum!

I don't bother trolling Stormfront. Stop trolling Wikipedia with your white supremacist nonsense.

JoeBlow

Kelway Has SS-Loving Facebook Friends

10.10.2009 22:22

The facts are, Kelway has many neo-Nazi friends who have a fixation with the Waffen SS.

BLOODY FACT!!!

The truth hurts, troll!

Shelly

nicely done manchester

11.10.2009 01:21

Despite the biggest turn out of fascists I've ever seen. UAF/ANTIFA TAKE A VICTORY Good Work Manchester.

Time to keep our eyes open. The goings about to get tough

SMASH THE FASH

southerner

Slitting the atom

11.10.2009 11:30

These commies must surely have split the atom by now they've "smashed" the BNP, EDL etc so many times!

CERN

a victory?

11.10.2009 11:30

Yesterday during the demo in piccadilly gardens there were several scuffles between the anti-fash and the EDL in the streets around the gardens,although the police kept the main groups apart they did not do a great job of keeping the smaller groups apart which was fortunate for us as these scuffles usualy ended in the nazi thugs routing.What is truly worrying were the edl numbers which have swollen drastically,i was also enraged by uaf stewards grassing "potential trouble makers" to the police this is shameful behaviour, you know who you are. the edl were vastly outnumberd and took a beating! on the whole a victory for anti-fash

fashbasher

UAF Grassing scum

11.10.2009 12:12

Indeed, a good turn out by our mob. I was pulled early on by the police. details taken and given section 28 to leave city centre. needless to say I somehow go back in. But this was made even more difficult by the UAF Stewards. Who grassed me in to police. And where seen grassing up many members and organizers of the alternative demo. This is not on, and will not be tolerated.
grassing scum.

oi oi

feckin liberals

11.10.2009 12:19

people need to drop the liberal bullshit view that "everyone is entitled to their opinion". The world is not formed based on idealistic views and notions of "rights". If we wish to see a world where we are free from exploitation, alienation and oppression we are going to have to deny the "rights" and "entitlements" of fascists.

- A mate of mine.

an antifascist

mexican

11.10.2009 15:15

lol i didn't realise anyone used the word grass outside episodes of the Bill
It sounds so cool!!!!!!!!!! like something out of the sweeney

rope

uaf stewards

11.10.2009 18:55

where a pain in the arse. i thought they where there to look after the protesters not grass them in to the filth.

some right little hitlers on the police lines, short arse woman on horse back fer instance most there will be quite aware who she was anyone get her number?

watched police use horses to crush people against buildings and when asking people to disperse one way they would then send horses towards the people preventing them from doing so.

ballz

info please

11.10.2009 20:11

oi oi - Section 28 of what act? Info would be useful, thanks.

Others - please give more info about UAF stewards grassing?

thanks

lettle

info on section and UAF stewards

12.10.2009 00:02

turns out it was s.27 violent reduction act 2006. just found the slips. through speaking to mates can confirm they stuck in at least 4 of us.

oi oi

re- UAF Grassing scum

12.10.2009 01:21

What did you expect from an organisation led by trots and SWPers??

These are, after all, the arseholes who made sure you can't protest the war in Iraq without being associated with terrorists - which is exactly what the government wanted! And now - what a surprise! they're once again "conveniently" trying to make sure that the movement they've muscled into fails spectacularly.

Got to stop relying on these centralised, far left dominated front groups - get some independant, autonomous anti-fascist stuff happening, that's how come we've managed to keep the scum bags out of Bristol, certainly not by relying on the likes of Ken Livingstone and his SWP mates.

thinkie

UAF Grasses

12.10.2009 08:36

The behaviour of the UAF stewards is exactly what you would expect from the SWP. THey have fulfilled exactly the same role since the 1970's. They are absolute scum and people really shouldn't be tricked into joining them. In future I'd suggest giving one of the bastards a serious kicking to set an example.

THE SWP are scum.

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