This Festive Season? / Stay out of cars / stay out of detention
John O | 18.12.2009 11:49 | Migration | Social Struggles | Workers' Movements | World
The next fortnight, supposed season of good cheer, it probalyl is if you are a UK national, not if you are a 'foreign national' with out secure status.
1) This Festive Season? / Stay out of cars / stay out of detention
2) Solicitors/NGOs/advocacy groups reduced service for next two weeks!
If your immigration status is insecure!
1) The government have launched its annual don't drink/ don't drive campaign.
From now through to the end of the first week of 2009 there will be extra police checks on cars.
If police stop a car they are more than likely to check the details of all the occupants of the car not just the driver. Police will run the names through their national database; the database contains details of persons that the UK Border Agency (UKBA) has an interest in.
If a name comes up as of being of interest to UKBA, that person may well be detained and taken to the nearest police station. UKBA will be informed that the person has been detained and UKBA will them make a decision as to whether to instruct the police to release the person back into the community or hold the person pending transfer to a Immigration Removal Centre.
2) Warning solicitors and advocacy groups will be very thin on the ground over the festive season; many will shut up shop on Monday 21st December through to Monday 4th January 2010.
If you do have a solicitor, make sure you have their emergency number, also emergency number for your MP.
If you do not have Leave to Remain, make sure that you have copies of all your paper work held by your solicitor/case worker (in particular, your Immigration Factual Summary, Home Office 'Letter of Refusal' also called the 'determination', this is the document refusing asylum) at home and a copy with friends, in case you are detained.
NCADC will as ever be providing emergency cover throughout the period to 'Signpost' friends of persons detained what actions if any can be taken.
Please be clear that if you need to contact NCADC it must be by email with *full details of the person you are trying to help, email:
urgent@ncadc.org.uk
We will require the following information of any person you are seeking help for,
1) ICD.2599 Immigration Factual Summary
2) a copy of the Home Office 'Letter of Refusal' also called the 'determination', this is the document refusing asylum.
We must insist that these documents are sent to NCADC in PDF format. All modern computers have the facility to scan in documents and convert them into PDF's, we will no longer accept multiple Jpegs/tiffs of documents.
their
Full name
Date of birth
Home Office Reference number
Home Office Port Reference number
Same details for any family members
Their location
Phone number of their:
Solicitor including their emergency number
MP including their emergency number
Doctor (if there are any persistent medical problems with any member of your family or yourself)
Numbers of any friends/support group/campaign group
Please be clear NCADC will only offer 'Signposting' as to what you can do, we will not under any circumstances be able to intervene personally in any cases, will not be able to ring persons in detention, will not be able to find solicitors, will not be able to provide legal advice.
End of Bulletin:
Source for this Message:
NCADC
2) Solicitors/NGOs/advocacy groups reduced service for next two weeks!
If your immigration status is insecure!
1) The government have launched its annual don't drink/ don't drive campaign.
From now through to the end of the first week of 2009 there will be extra police checks on cars.
If police stop a car they are more than likely to check the details of all the occupants of the car not just the driver. Police will run the names through their national database; the database contains details of persons that the UK Border Agency (UKBA) has an interest in.
If a name comes up as of being of interest to UKBA, that person may well be detained and taken to the nearest police station. UKBA will be informed that the person has been detained and UKBA will them make a decision as to whether to instruct the police to release the person back into the community or hold the person pending transfer to a Immigration Removal Centre.
2) Warning solicitors and advocacy groups will be very thin on the ground over the festive season; many will shut up shop on Monday 21st December through to Monday 4th January 2010.
If you do have a solicitor, make sure you have their emergency number, also emergency number for your MP.
If you do not have Leave to Remain, make sure that you have copies of all your paper work held by your solicitor/case worker (in particular, your Immigration Factual Summary, Home Office 'Letter of Refusal' also called the 'determination', this is the document refusing asylum) at home and a copy with friends, in case you are detained.
NCADC will as ever be providing emergency cover throughout the period to 'Signpost' friends of persons detained what actions if any can be taken.
Please be clear that if you need to contact NCADC it must be by email with *full details of the person you are trying to help, email:
urgent@ncadc.org.uk We will require the following information of any person you are seeking help for,
1) ICD.2599 Immigration Factual Summary
2) a copy of the Home Office 'Letter of Refusal' also called the 'determination', this is the document refusing asylum.
We must insist that these documents are sent to NCADC in PDF format. All modern computers have the facility to scan in documents and convert them into PDF's, we will no longer accept multiple Jpegs/tiffs of documents.
their
Full name
Date of birth
Home Office Reference number
Home Office Port Reference number
Same details for any family members
Their location
Phone number of their:
Solicitor including their emergency number
MP including their emergency number
Doctor (if there are any persistent medical problems with any member of your family or yourself)
Numbers of any friends/support group/campaign group
Please be clear NCADC will only offer 'Signposting' as to what you can do, we will not under any circumstances be able to intervene personally in any cases, will not be able to ring persons in detention, will not be able to find solicitors, will not be able to provide legal advice.
End of Bulletin:
Source for this Message:
NCADC
John O
e-mail:
JohnO@ncadc.org.uk
Homepage:
http://www.ncadc.org.uk
Comments
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Details of all occupants of cars ?
18.12.2009 12:58
Other occupants can politely decline to give details as it's not a legal requirement, shurely ?
Armchair lawyer
Clarification on police powers, please
18.12.2009 13:07
'If police stop a car they are more than likely to check the details of all the occupants of the car not just the driver.'
Can you explain under which power the police are able to do this? I was under the impression that you do NOT have to give your name and address if you are a passenger in a car which is stopped, and the police do NOT have powers to demand these details (although they may try).
This still seems to be the advice given by the activists legal project
but maybe I've missed something.
Can anyone clarify the position?
Ta
zippy
Sounds like bullshit to me
19.12.2009 22:23
anon
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22.12.2009 11:03
The cops can demand your details if they suspect you of something and will take down these details, they may ask for coroberating paperwork etc.
Refusing to give details make you look suspicious to them (criminals have been known to lie and cheat you know) and the stop will take ages, they have all the time in the world you dont, the longer it takes the more chance that they will get bored and start digging a bit deeper.
The best chance of not getting stopped is not to draw attention to yourself, these people dont want to stop you, it's cold and walking about for 12 hours cant be fun.
anon
PC Munk, likes to beat up children.
23.12.2009 17:37
Try moving from your nice middle class suburb and see what the working classes have to put up with from the police everyday.
Walking around for 12hrs in the cold isn't fun - which is why some "officers" will give people hassle just to liven up their shift.
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