Demo's continue against Noah's Ark Zoo

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noah's ark

04.04.2010 17:24

i was wondering what animal rights comrades actually think of the real Noah's ark in the bible, book of genesis, chapters 6-9?
was it a good thing to put 2 of every speecies into a big ship?
i mean to force the animals into the ship, then enforce hetrosexuality on to them also!

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homosexual animals

04.04.2010 20:08

And incest. But, I guess it was a global emergency and extreme measures were called for.

But good point. I believe may stud farms do enforce hetrosexual behaviour on animals which of course is wrong. Perhaps this should be protested.

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Dairy is rape

04.04.2010 20:24

Answers below ...thanks.

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What about Icecream?

04.04.2010 23:13

Because thats diary, but everyone likes Icecream.
I can't believe animal rights people will want to ban things like icecream or lattes

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To Breast Feeding MIk

05.04.2010 00:34

Well you know there is non-dairy ice cream and also sorbet is usually much nicer than ice cream anyway.

But have you considered that many of us stopped drinking breast milk when we were babies. It's not our fault that you wish to put cow's breast milk in your coffee. I bet you also like to eat the menstrual discharge of hens as well don't you.There's some sick people in this world.

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animal lover

05.04.2010 16:30

Try your nearest supermarket, its known commonly as "eggs".

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eating stuff

05.04.2010 23:50

non diary ice-cream doesn't taste very nice, and i don't think the ingredients in sorbet is particularly good for you - although it is quite nice

However, most people drink milk, or at least put it in tea or coffee. And most people eat eggs and cheese. People have been doing so for 100s, if not 1000s of years. Its part of our evolution, just like eating meet. Of course, you can choose not to eat those things, but most people don't want to.
Vegan is on the rise, it may taper off to a plateau, or it may continue to rise, who knows.

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non-dairy ice cream (re: eating stuff)

06.04.2010 11:10

I don't even particularly like ice cream, but non-dairy ice cream does taste much nicer than the cows' milk one.

And sorbet is basically just ice cream with water instead of milk, isn't it? not sure how that can be bad for you.

Also, you commit a basic logical fallacy - just because something has been done for a long time doesn't necessarily make it right. Rape, murder, sexism, racism, homophobia have gone on for many years and have often been very popular. That doesn't make them right.

"Of course, you can choose not to eat those things, but most people don't want to."

Should you have the "choice" to harm others? This isn't just a harmless choice like what gender of person you want to fuck, it is literally a matter of life or death for many animals.

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the way we are

06.04.2010 18:47

Good points. Thankyou

I'll try the non dairy icecream. Had it years ago, didn't like it - but will try again
Had some sorbet a while back and noticed it had something in the ingredients. Can remember what - gelatine or something?

Ok, there going to be an issue of "right" and "wrong" here. Animals (and plants) kill and explout other lifeforms to survive. For instance, the way a cookoo lays its eggs isn't 'morally' right. But we don't go around punishing all the cookoos do we?

Killing each other is "morally" wrong. But sometimes it is "right" (self defense / preservation)
These ideals were made over time. 1000s of years ago, the idea of not killing people would have been ludicous to the majority.

In the same way, the idea of not farming and milking animals also seems ludicous. Perhaps now isn't the right time for our species to move away from this. Perhaps it will happen in 1000s of years from now?

All animals make and have choices in the form or life and death. We are animals, part of nature and a product of evolution. We can't simply just cast away millions of years of evolutionary hardwiring at will. Maybe a certain percentage of us can, but thats just statistics. Humans are human - if we didn't act like humans, then we would no longer be human.

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@"I bet you also like to eat the menstrual discharge of hens as well don't you"

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