This sort of nonsense bullshit is what gives the animal rights movement a bad name, it's utter aluminium foil conspiracy theorist bullshit.

The reason there's anthrax in the heroin is because of the countries flawed drugs policy. Instead of legalising drugs so that quality safe guards can be put in place they're driven underground into the hands of scumbags who see addicts as profit. They add bulking agents to heroin to increase it's weight and boost their profits. Inevitably these bulking products are usually harmful. Anthrax occurs naturally in the wild especially on animal skins and hooves, if untreated animal products were added as the bulking agents hey presto you've found your anthrax source.

The notion that it escaped from a lab is pure nonsense, it occurs naturally anyway. Ask any sheep farmer about anthrax.

The author of this 'article' is nothing to do with animal rights!! She continually claims she wants nothing to do with it in her Camden Lab campaign. She is only out to discredit animal rights.

If this as you suggest is caused by an untreated "animal derived bulking agent" [!] then it would occur more often.
Animal derived products would not dissolve properly on foil or in a spoon as is necessary for heroin use and it is very unlikely that anyone would use animal derived bulking agents in heroin.
There is a chance that someone has infected heroin deliberately which is why the police are investigating this. Heroin production and importation is run by sophisticated organisations who want maximum profits.

Political groups and criminals have used substances taken from labs in terror attacks and have done so more often than the general public realise.

Bonemeal does not dissolve in water. Some "conspiracy theorists" are saying that they think the CIA have deliberately sprayed or otherwise contaminated smack at source in Afghanistan to disable smack profits made by the Taliban.

I agree that labs should not be built in cities or towns, let alone Camden. To place a lab in Kings Cross is madness. It is not unheard of for criminals or political factions to get their hands on bio weapons. Even a small amount of a bio weapon on the underground is enough to cause chaos and bring London to a halt.

A lab in Camden is the ideal place for an attack. Most whether they believe the CIA or Al Qaida caused 9/11 or whether MI5 or Al Qaida caused 7/7 will agree that Camden is no place for a lab. To put the UKCMRI next to the Channel Tunnel is total stupidity.

The people who are discrediting AR are the people who write that they believe in aliens and stand in public making speeches about aliens. What do aliens have to do with AR? The people who threaten people are doing a brilliant job of discrediting AR too.
The residents in the Stop Camden Lab group are against extremism, they are not against all of AR. Tracy Morgan has said on her Camden Danger Lab blogspot that "Animal Rights extremists give animal welfare groups a bad name". Some may agree with this and some won't. The Animals Count group have said at a public meeting in Housmans bookshop that violence isn't working and it has caused the number of animal tests to go up not down. Again you can agree or disagree with this.
Either way the UKCMRI lab is a terrible thing to live beside. I support the residents group.

Prescribing pharma grade smack to addicts would be better than them buying it in the streets. It would solve contaminate problems.


It's labs who are being discredited in the original article not AR. An article criticising the nutto idea to stick a labs in cities is against the labs.


I will say though that whoever is doing that Camden Sanity Brigade alien blog looks like a psycho so if you mean him, yea he's a total twat. Why has he put pictures of naked women on it and things about aliens, like someother AR people? I don't understand all these people getting into this alien thing.
If this is the person that you mean then yes, they are discrediting AR. He's probably from the UKCMRI or Special Branch though and is doing it on purpose...I hope he's not AR but with the current crop of alien nuts he could be, they are all messing things up for the animals by going on about aliens. I would ignore anyone like that though. He's just a nut.

Camden Chips and Peas? You want heroin to be legalised? I suppose it means less work. Camden Chips and Peas : Camden Police.
The Camden Sanity Brigade or CSB : Camden Special Branch.

As a nurse who works with addicts yes myself and other colleagues do believe it should legalised. Part of the problem of addicts dying is largely because the government drives the drug trade underground. In order to make the risks worth it, dealers add bulking products to maximise profits. It is by and large these bulking products which kill people who use heroin not the heroin itself. There will always be people who use drugs, everything from alcohol, tobacco and cannabis to cocaine and heroin. Making things illegal doesn't stop people using them, prohibition does not work. History has shown us this time and time again. But alas the government never listens to the advice of the workers who are charged with helping drug users, it doesn't even listen to it's own drugs advisory council. I'm sure we all remeber the sacking of Professor David Nutt.

We can work with people who use heroin to help them manage and readjust to a life without it when they choose the time is right, but we cannot do this when they're dead because some nasty dealer mixed in god knows what and killed them.

And I'm most certainly not the Camden police, although it's difficult to read your post because it is so disjointed. The police by and large make my job far more difficult, by criminalising the very people I am trying to help they are part of the problem.

The first "Chips and Peas" and the second "Chips and Peas" are unlikely the same person.

Heroin kills if used wrongly, used as a poison against another or when purity changes. Bulking agents that can cause gangrene, blood poisoning, oedema, cellulitus etc.
Heroin can be used to murder people and in date rape. Legalising it is a minefield debate. It is very physically and psychologically addictive and it is better to manage it via a controlled prescription than legalising it. Prescribing heroin is far more sensible than prescribing methadone. Most addicts know far more about drugs than drugs project workers.
Nurses who work with addicts, drugs projects have a 5% - 15% success rate and even then the patients often relapse. Drugs rehabs and prjects do more harm than good much of the tinme. Most addicts despise the people who work in the drugs projects. Most of the staff are middle class do gooders who have never been addicted to heroin and haven't got a clue. They might have taken a few E's in their time but that's about it.
However, the Healthy Options Teams in Mile End, East London is run by addicts and former addicts [I think it is still there] and is much more helpful than most drug projects.
Some drug projects employ drugs squad staff [they deny it but it does go on] and they do pass information about dealers and users to the police even though they deny this.

The animal products question regarding anthrax is an interesting one and it's enough to turn anyone off buying a leather item ever again and will lead to a few more veggies. If imported animal products can lead to anthrax infection it's enough to put anyone off. Animals and animal parts including illegal fur are smuggled into the UK which adds to risks.
The thought of an animal testing lab in Camden is repulsive. It's dangerous. The idea that a level 3 lab that might hold SARS, Yellow Fever, TB, Swine Flu, Bird Flu and maybe even anthrax being built next to a major international and national transport network is terrifying.
I think that its great that there is a London community campaign group against the Kings Cross lab, rather than the "usual suspects" of animal rights. Tracy Morgan is very brave and very sensible to stand against extremism and should be supported not criticised. Other groups too such as Animals Count are doing the same and they too should be applauded.

Chips and Peas [both] are Camden Police. Quite why they are pretending to be nurses is anybody's guess.
The thought of anthrax in anything at all is frightening and it could well be the CIA behind this. It has been documented that they put LSD in French Bread and caused a whole village to suffer hallucinations. They are capable of it and could easily have done this to get at the Taliban.