the presence of maria and brian is allowing you all to stay. without their years of battles you would be gone by now. time to show them some respect and solidarity?

I presume the 'obstruction' charges were for obstructing the highway (Highways Act)?

If the district judge / magistrates directed guilty pleas then the defendants have been convicted and it will go on their records. However, they could possibly argue, if they were to appeal, that their prosecution was discriminatory, given that 'peaceful warrior' and others from the Democracy Village who have presumably carried out what the authorities would normally consider to be more serious offences (criminal trespass on a designated site, SOCPA s.128) have not been prosecuted.

Regarding potential court costs of any legal challenge, perhaps Liberty, Public Interest Lawyers, Peacerights, etc would be willing to bear the costs, if Legal Aid is not available?? Worth a try.

Yep, it is really a wee bit popularist?...'playing the game' this 'troops home' aim? Surely there is more to i than that. I really do not like finding myself going ona even slightly emotional bighty trip, and is usually coincidal with the difficult to stay balanced drug, alcohol - i.e B/S. Why on earth is one Englishman worth more emotion or whatever than one dead Iraqi? Is it this annoying Newbury road protest Blightyworld type factor once again. My God I hate that tendancy. Fuk you and your country idiot. Britian is a total and complete pile of shite. It is a construct of suppression of indigenous people, and if you believe the masonic therories, some sort of ultimate horror negative ritual anti magic construct of total and complete poison...but never mind eh? Blightyscum troops we feel for you. Like fuk. Fuk you and your country british c*** :)

When balanced, I don't feel any more for the pain of the dead British soldier than for the dead Iraqi - in fact the most emotional pain is to do with the genetically damaged Iraqi kids - thats true horror. The demo should be an anti war protest - not this popularist game of 'troops home' I think. And no blody hammer and sickle banners please! Have some sense and stop displaying these communistic totems of even more abuse and horror. This is why I don't like your consensus, why I dont like this protest scene - because you accept these symbols of hate and horror, because you dont act with true honour or whatthefukever and just say ''no we're not having that bullshit here and if you don like it communist idiot you can fuk off'' and you shouldn't need to have some sort of weird meeting to do this! You're weirdos. Fuked up weirdos. Unfree. Likewise the toleration of animal rights extremists. This fuked up consensus is never ever ever going to go community wide. Its always going to be a very very small minority thing.

If its really a democracy village then perhaps the aim could be much wider - covering corruption in Parliament, the mismanagment of the economy by pyscopathic politricktion, eco earth crisis etc etc. Or is it being called 'democracy village' because you feel its an experiment in real democracy type thing because you have meetings every day to decide what to think? Weirdos. From my experience of living at this sort of weirdo camp, (Donga clique), I would say what you are doing is communalising before you individuate fully (in pyscological terms). You're not truely free as anarchistic individuals, more like communistic skitzos or cult victim weirdos...this scene that you are doing in general, this protest type scene is very very different in this way from the hippy travellers 'peace convoy'..site meetings would be very rare..people would kinda know what to do...it would happen, perhaps thinking about it now, due to magic...it was very very deep magic, much deeper and less ego than what you do in the protest scene. You'd never ever see a hammer and sickle flag on a convoy site - it would be absolutely farcial. How do you get to this deeper level?..mmmm, well we were taking rather a lot of cannabis and pyscotropics...and it was real, definitely real and not illusion or anything. Wheras, for example, now I would say that the Rasta Salassi is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ type trip is not true and is illusion. This is despite the fact that it 'works' in terms of magic and consciousness...a thesis doesn't have to be true to produce a seemingly sound consciousness.

Going a bit deep there.

Maria is full on behind the democracy camp and one of its prime movers

Brian says we (and Maria) are police spies/stogges and thinks the whole thing is a set up to justify removing him from the square

"Maria is full on behind the democracy camp and one of its prime movers

Brian says we (and Maria) are police spies/stogges and thinks the whole thing is a set up to justify removing him from the square "

I can understand where Brian (Barbara?) are coming from with that. Its easy to see the village as something they have no control over so Barbara is going to see it as something to do with the state but we have to be honest here.

Accusing absolutely everybody of being a police informer serves to do nothing other than whittle away your underlying support base. Brian has lost a lot of support because of Barbara. Many of his key supporters have gone because of this woman.

Exactly how does reducing your presence in Parliament Square to just a small handful of individuals constitute effective action against the entire Government?

This is the problem with Brian. His contribution has been amazing, as has his sacrifice, but he is also very easy to forget too. Pressure on Government to act in the interests of peace is not likely to come about through something that is that easy to forget. He may be a sight outside the Parliament building but beyond that place, he is largely invisible.

Campaigns are not won with low profiles.

Barbara Tucker needs to understand that the cause of peace is not all about her, or Brian, it is about the country as a whole moving in one direction, together.

Nor is it about anarchic tendencies, what you think of the police, the army or the media. It is about consensus toward peace.

Those folks in Parliament Square are doing the right thing. They represent a message which can be amplified around the world. But this message will fail to amplify if keyboard warriors here continually undermine that message by smothering it with their own personal hangups.

If you undermine the message, you undermine the cause, if you undermine the cause, you consolidate the war and those who wish to continue fighting it.

Criticism of those folks in Parliament Square, is to side with the warmongers. Please try to remember that unity is strength. That works both for those engaged toward peace, and those who are currently, and previously, engaged in the killing.

If you have some issue you are not happy with, get up, go out and let people judge you and your opinions face to face, if you have the courage!