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Sterilise claimants urges racist treasury website

anon | 15.07.2010 12:24

This is a single issue newsletter asking for your urgent help in getting a government website closed down. The site, set up by the treasury to allow people to suggest ways to cut government spending, is full of hate-filled racist and disablist suggestions, including the sterilisation of benefits claimants, the return of the workhouse and the forced repatriation of asylum seekers and migrants. Some of the site’s content is so extreme it may even constitute a criminal offence.

The Spending Challenge website at

 http://spendingchallenge.hm-treasury.gov.uk/

was set up on Friday by the coalition government and features an introduction and video on its home page by chancellor George Osborne.

In his video Osborne tells visitors that “Your government needs you, please get in touch” and the introduction assures visitors that:

“A team has been put together right at the heart of government and their job is to make sure that your ideas and comments are taken seriously - and that the best ideas are taken forward as part of the Spending Review.”

Yet these ideas and comments clearly demonstrate how the demonisation of claimants by successive governments has succeeded in promoting open and widespread hatred. One suggestion is to “Re-open the workhouses” for the unemployed, the elderly and asylum seekers. The poster goes on to suggest that:

“To prevent the problem of generations of poor people, release could be conditional on getting sterilised.”

Another idea entitled “Discouraging those who do not work from starting a family” goes on to say that:

“Where NHS staff have identified that a couple or single mother isn't in a position to support themselves and a child financially, they should be advised to terminate the pregnancy (if very early on), or be recommended to give the child up for adoption.”

Other ideas include:

“Benefits claimants to work in sweatshops” which urges the government to also send the unemployed to Afghanistan as cannon fodder;

“Let The Disabled Community Forge A New Industry” which suggests that disabled claimants should grow and sell cannabis for a living;

“Employ Crocodiles in Benefits Offices” to discourage claims;

the self-explanatory “Stop paying JSA etc to drunks, druggies & wastrels”; and

“Stop handing out free laptops and internet connections to the unemployed” in which the poster goes on to say that “I worked fifteen years before I could afford to buy myself a laptop, some toerag who's never worked a day in his life gets it courtesy of the State.”

Even where the initial post appears to be an attempt at humour or irony, the baying mob of supportive posters demonstrates that many others take the ideas seriously.

Equally disturbing and possibly criminal are the huge number of racist rants being published by the treasury.

In one suggestion “Move immigrants in council houses out of cities”, the original poster wants the coalition government to “Tell immigrants that they are being moved to less expensive areas. If they don't want to, they can leave the country.”

However, in a subsequent comment, another poster responds with “I'm not sure that I want to see immigrants living in our villages - keep them in the ghetto's until such time as they can all be deported.”

Many of the suggestions target specific groups such as Somalis and the site is littered with the most ugly and examples of ignorance and prejudice, many so extreme that we are not prepared to reproduce them,

The Public Order Act 1986 makes it an offence to publish material which is likely to stir up racial hatred. Benefits and Work believes that this is exactly the effect that the treasury website will have. The content may also be in breach of discrimination and harassment legislation. Whilst we do not have the legal knowledge to pursue this matter further, and don’t want to be accused of a publicity stunt, we hope that there are readers of this newsletter who will have both the knowledge and the sense of outrage to do so and that they will involve the police in investigating this site.

The site has a ‘Report to the moderator’ feature, but appears to be otherwise unmoderated. To leave the responsibility for policing a government website to members of the public instead of checking each submission before publishing it is, at best, inexcusably negligent and, at worst, criminally irresponsible. There are, in any case, so many vile sentiments being posted there, that it would be a full-time job to keep reporting them all.

If you are as revolted as we are by the use of taxpayers money to encourage racism and hatred of claimants, please consider doing the following:

Contact your MP today and ask them to tell the chancellor to close down this vile site, clean it up and don’t reopen it until it is properly policed;

Make a complaint to the Equalities and human Rights Commission at

 http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/our-job/contact-us/

Good luck,

Steve Donnison

This article can be viewed online at

 http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/latest-news/1233-sterilise-claimants-urges-racist-treasury-website


(c) 2010 Steve Donnison. Benefits and Work Publishing Ltd. Company registration No. 5962666
You are welcome to reproduce this newsletter on your website or blog, provided you do so in full.

anon

Comments

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Cowardice?

15.07.2010 12:59

If you know enough to suspect that this site is in breach of the Race Relations Act, or other laws against discrimination, you have enough legal knowledge to make a complaint. So why don't you?
Why are you concerned about being accused of a 'publicity stunt'? What's that about? Your organisation didn't set up the website!
I just don't get why this is not within the remit of BenefitsandWork.

Annie Citizen
- Homepage: http://www.rightsandwrongsuk.blogspot.com


Pompous

15.07.2010 13:06

Don't be so pompous. It isn't a 'racist website' but a website on which people have posted their views - some of which are racist.

Olly the Oliphant


The best cut of all.

15.07.2010 14:47

Why not cut the heads off the toffs?

There are always the subsidies to the farmers, most of whom are wealthy landowners anyway. Welfare for the rich but that isn't mentioned.

Aktion Direkt


Looks like it's getting fixed:

15.07.2010 15:20

"To view this page, you must log in to this area on spendingchallenge.hm-treasury.gov.uk:
Sorry, the site is currently down for maintenance"

Ae


A very bad idea?

15.07.2010 16:42

Let's see if I understand you correctly.

You want a website that allows unpopular/unacceptable views/opinions to be posted by people to be shut down? You think that's a good idea? You want a website that allows this sort of unconesored posting to be considered responsible for what gets posted?

DUH! In which case WE (Indymedia) get shut down.


BTW --- it is perhaps good that some of us get to see opinions like that, be faced with the reality that at least some of our fellow citizens think along those lines. Might force us to remove our ideological blinders and face the reality that we have a LONG way to go organizing for the changes we want.
People who express opinions like that get to vote too. Always remember that. And (unfortunately) there are a lot of them. It isn't even clear that there are more of us thinking the way that we do. Not yet.

MDN


@MDN: difference is this is a government website

15.07.2010 23:30

The obvious difference is that these opinions are on a government website. Indymedia is an independent website. The government shouldn't be promoting racism - don't they have some kind of equal ops policy regarding this?

If people want to promote racist ideas they can do it on their own sites, not on ones paid for with taxpayers' money.

I'm sure if people put up ideas like shoot the bankers, kill the rich or hang the politicians they would get taken down pretty quick.

anon


shut it down, ban it and police our opinions

16.07.2010 12:31


"If people want to promote racist ideas they can do it on their own sites, not on ones paid for with taxpayers' money. "

If people want to promote revolutionary ideas they can do it on their own sites, not on ones paid for with taxpayers' money.

If people want to promote anti-capitalist ideas they can do it on their own sites, not on ones paid for with taxpayers' money.

In fact, I've got a fairly clear view of which ideas should be allowed on public websites or in public places. We have a right not to be offended after all - havent we?





free


Depends on the question (promoting?)

16.07.2010 12:40

There's a problem here ........... answers, whether "against the law" or not are allowable depends on the question being asked.

So no, it is one thing to advocate "shoot the bankers" WITHOUT the context of changes in the laws/regulations that prohibit this and quite another to advocate that WITHIN the context of answering a question "what do you think the laws/regulations SHOULD be?"

I might not like some of the responses but it has to be possible to advocate ANY change in laws and regulations. If you ASK the question "what changes would you like to see" then ANY answer has to be permitted. Suppose that were a govenrment site asking the public "Considering the recent disasters in the financial system, what new regulations would you like to see?" Then "shoot the bankers" (who were responsible) HAS to be a permitted answer in spite of the fact that CURRENTLY under our capitalist order shooting bankers not allowed.

OR --- do you think a law could/should be written "X, Y, and Z are illegal AND any attempt to get this law changed is illegal". I do not think you'd care for that limitation of the political process.

Advocating changing/doing away with a law is NOT breaking that law. At least not in a free society.

MDN


@MDN: loophole in incitement laws?

16.07.2010 23:10

MDN: "Advocating changing/doing away with a law is NOT breaking that law. At least not in a free society."

This suggests a clever workaround for any incitement or similar laws:

Instead of saying: "Kill Person X!" just say "Change the law so killing Person X is legal, then kill them!"

;-)

I would love to see the bankers shot but I totally don't expect the government to promote this view. So why should they promote racist views? That is double standards. Either allow both of them or neither of them.

anon


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