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Ian Tomlinson death: police officer will not face criminal charges

no Justice, no Peace | 22.07.2010 10:34 | G20 London Summit | Repression | Social Struggles

Breaking News from The Guardian

The Crown Prosecution Service has announced this morning that the police officer who was caught on video striking Ian Tomlinson during the G20 protests last year who later died will not face criminal charges,

How about a demo at the CPS this afternoon, say from 4pm onwards anyone?
CPS London address is: 22 Upper Ground, London, SE1 9BT



no Justice, no Peace

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Getting away with murder

22.07.2010 10:51

We (and they) always knew they were above the law. This confirms that cops can (and do) literally get away with murder.

sad'n'angry


blank cheque

22.07.2010 10:57

so the police have only to call on the services of a friendly doctor, and any other evidence or viewpoint is null and void.

Im sure it wouldn't take too much effort to find court cases where medical evidence is in disagreement, and yet the CPS started a case. And why no charges of assult and ABH.

However, did we really expect any justice.

Hopefully the MET will pay dearly for this, and not just via a civil case brought by the family.

Scum MET, Scum CPS.

sam


The Tomlinson family have called for a demo @1pm Scotland Yard

22.07.2010 11:28

The tomlinson family have called for a protest outside Scotland yard @1pm today to protest the CPS verdict.

No one seems to have noticed today is also 5 years to the day that the police murdered Jean Charles De Menezes.

ACAB.

ACAB


Legalising offences

22.07.2010 13:08

There is a clear process which should have taken place here and it hasn't been followed.

If a member of the public causes death then that person is taken into custody, interviewed, charges are considered and if enough evidence exists, the person is bailed and a file sent to the CPS. If the charges are reasonable, then the CPS prepares a case and the matter is put before the court for open trail. If the court finds the charges reasonable then it proceeds and the process ends with a verdict of the court (judge or jury) and incarceration or acquittal of the accused. The post-mortem of the deceased is simply a matter of evidence for the court.

What part of this process does the police service not have any confidence in?

The post-mortem has clearly been removed from what should, by established process, have been a matter for open trial and the defence and prosecution arguments.

Technical problems have clearly been fabricated to protect the officer and the Police Service and the ordinary process that should have taken place has not.

Big black mark for the Met. You are clearly as bent as the criminals you chase.








J


As expected.

22.07.2010 13:41

The post-mortem should have been a matter for the defence and prosecution to argue in open court.

Not the Police and their chronies to argue behind closed doors.

There needs to be an immediate halt to this, suspension of those involved and an immediate public inquiry into the IPCC, DPP and the Metropolitan Police Service.

Clearly, the police have no confidence in the Judiciary.

PC fuck you.


BBC News 24 Name Copper who topped Ian

22.07.2010 14:08

PC. Simon Hardwood,

Thats 00Harwood, Licensed to Kill.

Licensed to kill


Process as offender.

22.07.2010 14:31

The police are now trying to reduce the whole matter to 'misconduct'. So the officer might get a mild reprimand.

If you are the police and you are reading this.

NOT A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL!

J


All part of the service, Sir.

22.07.2010 15:08

"No one seems to have noticed today is also 5 years to the day that the police murdered Jean Charles De Menezes."

I would imagine that even that has been planned for. Two birds with one stone and all that. Why give the media a chance to run two hostile stories over a few days when you can wrap it all up into a single 'event'. Makes things easier to manage by the under-staffed police PR dept.

Its all part of the police 'initiative' culture that exists these days. Somebody in the police is getting on in the world from this. They'll appear as a Chief Constable in a few years time and expect the public to have confidence in them.

Little will we know!

Stevie


Getting away with murder...

22.07.2010 16:58

Want to commit the perfect murder and escape justice? No need for untraceable poisons, destruction of DNA evidence,disguise, watertight alibi etc, simply join the MET.

Once in uniform you will be given carte blanche to kill who you want when you want and nobody will press charges.

Bastards.

IHTF


Thoughts with his family

22.07.2010 19:31

I am not suprised at all.
To shed some light on how police officers are treated when I was attacked in 2000 what happened was that the police officer was arrested and his home raided that night mainly because lots of people had witnessed the assault who were regarded as "respectable" i.e a senior nurse, a squadron leader etc. I was interviewed a couple of days later by detectives in my hospital bed and there was a bearly suppressed groan when I said I wanted to press charges. My assailant was released without charge and some damage limitation was on TV stating that a PC had been arrested for attacking a woman implying this was a domestic! The activist with me at the scene was remanded in custody.

What happened next was interesting I was waiting for another operation a week later remaining very ill when 2 detectives came to my bed and sort of charged me with conspiracy to endanger public safety, I was still pretty out of it but my statement concerning the assault was being used against me. Another week passed and the day before my discharge from hospital several homes of my freinds were raided as well as my house and 4 people arrested and remanded in custody. They were released a week later.
In sharp contrast the police officer was not charged for 10 months and was on unconditional bail, I was told that this was because the then PCA (Police Complaints Authority) had to be satisfied that the assault was investigated properly. He was then charged with GBH. My charges were dropped to obstruction of the highway something to do with the CPS avoiding bad publicity.
At trial the defence were allowed to run with the fiction that this police officer had fled the scene as he was scared of animal rights activists because of the attack on Brian Cass which is odd considering that Cass was attacked 6 months later!!!!
He was acquitted.
Now this is where it gets really interesting especially for the relatives of Ian Tomlinson, it will not bring Ian back but may help get some closure after all other legal recourse has been exhausted. I sued the police officer personally and successfully and he was none too amused it did not cover the costs of my injuries over a lifetime but it helped to balance the scales a little. No doubt the Met' are going to have to cough up considerably for this but the officers responsible can be made uncomfortable and made an example of in ways that are legal and low risk. Hope that the demo goes well.
RIP Ian.

Lynn Sawyer


Police allowed to get away with murder again

23.07.2010 03:03

The decision by the head of the CPS and his crew not to prosecute tha police responsible for Mr Tomlinson's death is a national disgrace. The excuse of conflicting medical evidence is nonsense and diverts attention from the basic fact that Mr Tomlinson was fine before he encountered the police thug responsible for his death. A conviction could and should have been obtained yet the police get away with murder yet again.
I know from personal experience how corrupt and rotten the system is and I have experienced police brutality at first hand. One other person has drawn attention to the way this has been dealt with in France and rightly so - anger needs to be translated into action not a lot of talk and hot air

George Coombs


On the Square.

23.07.2010 09:15

The Police in the UK are all a load of bent, corrupt Freemasons. They have their Brothers in the government, legal profession and courts to assist them escape justice.

Look to the Lodges.

Rhiannon


Look where you need to.

23.07.2010 12:35

"Look to the Lodges."

Lets not bother with nonsense the public are unlikely to care about or understand.

Lets stick to the matter at hand.

Systemic corruption, conspiracy to defraud, conspiracy to harbour a suspected criminal, aiding and abetting, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, perverting the course of justice, dereliction of duties, abandonment of duty, unlawful death, manslaughter, failure to report, failure to process, conspiracy to obstruct justice. Of course there are a lot more but lets stick to whats obvious.

Lets not allow ourselves to become 'distracted' by obvious nonsense. The police are guilty as sin and have actively undermined the course of justice.

They must be forced before the courts to answer for serious offence's. They wont like it of course, and will do their best to show us all the natural contempt they hold for us. This is natural though. Its what they do, its why they killed Ian Tomlinson.

They just don't care about getting caught because they know the have enough friends to count on. We have to take those friends away from them. And when we have done that, we have to drag them by their scrawny little flea-bitten necks kicking and screaming into the courts.

T


error

23.07.2010 16:49

your statement "Tomlinson was fine before he encountered the police thug responsible for his death" is wrong.

In all Post mortems it clearly showed both congenital heart disease and cronic tissue damage due to prolonged consumtion of alcohol as he was an alcoholic.

Please check available post details for confirmation.

Getting kind of sick of people lieing for thier person opinion to be believed, accuse others of hypocrasy and then spend several paragraphs spouting opinion biased innacuracies as if they were fact.

Think: If a perfectly healthy person can be killed by pushing them, then the fucking army woud have long sticks not guns!

anon


@error = wrong

23.07.2010 17:39

>> In all Post mortems it clearly showed both congenital heart disease and cronic tissue damage due to prolonged consumtion of alcohol as he was an alcoholic.

Yes. What has that got to do with anything? It also said in the 2nd and 3rd post mortems that it was internal bleeding, caused by blunt force trauma to the abdomen.

>> Think: If a perfectly healthy person can be killed by pushing them, then the fucking army woud have long sticks not guns!

Surprisingly, it does happy with quite frequent regularity. The the sad thing about internal bleeding.
People have died from internal bleeding on a football / rugby picture, skiing / boarding, boxing and plain just falling off a bike or walking in a street. The same for falling down stairs or in the garden.

And putting 2+2 together. Ian walked less than 100m away after the incident and then died.
It would have to be a huge coincidence that his alcohol abuse had killed him just a few minutes after being assaulted. The odds of that would be astronomical. Coupled with the fact the the 2 pathologists said that internal bleeding from the blunt force trauma caused the death.



>> The Police in the UK are all a load of bent, corrupt Freemasons. They have their Brothers in the government, legal profession and courts to assist them escape justice. Look to the Lodges.

Sorry, but i'm a freemason and that is a load of bollox. Most of public have no idea what the freemasons are about apart from what they've read in a Dan Brown book.

cock


Its all about this (raises single finger)

23.07.2010 19:37

Ah, I see the "blame it on the victim" loonies have turned up. I was wondering when you'd put in an appearance?

Next up, Ian was suicidal and he wanted to die!

Do one.

Jack Palance


Terror on the streets

24.07.2010 20:57

I have a heart condition and this confirms to me that London is a no go area, because of the police. There are many issues I feel I want to protest about, but I don't want to risk my life for the sake of protesting over them (which may not do that much). I too would risk death if a police man hit me with a mettle stick. This must be part of police training, that you can kill the sick by hitting them, and that who is sick is not obviouse. So, my world is going to hell in a hand cart, and I do not have the right to protest, because I have health problems.

Meritocracy my bum. Well done for taking my voice away.

Congenital Heart Condition


What happens when a policeman's not the suspect

26.07.2010 04:52

I think this current case  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10513774 nicely illustrates how the CPS would have proceeded if the assault hadn't been committed by a policeman.

So according to the CPS, if you push someone to the ground and shortly after they die of a long-standing health condition, which neither the assailant or the victim knew existed, the only "sensible conclusion" is that the death was a result of the confrontation, therefore is manslaughter.

Except if they're not sure whether it was a heart attack or internal bleeding that the victim died from minutes after the "confrontation", in which case it would be quite impossible for a jury to conclude that the two are in any way connected. Oh yeah, and if the assailant is a copper

PS. I can't help thinking the CPS announced their decision on the anniversary of the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezez deliberately, to basically say "Fuck you, see this isn't a one off, we can let the police kill whoever they want with impunity whenever we like, what are you going to do about it you plebs?".

So, what are we going to do about it?

doveman


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