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Police ‘feared campaigners would close down airport’

Dan | 27.08.2010 11:38 | Climate Chaos

Lothian & Borders police attempt to salvage reputation after over-reacting to Camp for Climate Action protest.

In what is clearly a face-saving exercise by Lothian & Borders Police, they have passed a story to Alan McEwen, crime reporter with the Scotsman, that far from massively over-reacting to the Camp for Climate Action – as everyone seems to thing – that had in fact stopped protesters from closing down Edinburgh Airport as well as ‘attacking’ the motorways, banking system and the Tattoo.

The Scotsman claimed that ‘police chiefs feared that a hardcore group of climate camp activists planned to launch a bid to shut down Edinburgh Airport during the protests. Officers had gathered intelligence that the ringleaders of protests which previously targeted Heathrow Airport were descending on the Capital’.

It clearly took a lot of intelligence gathering to work out that one!

‘Intelligence also suggested that the M8 and M9 motorways, Princes Street, and the Tattoo may have come under attack in a effort to cause “maximum economic disruption”. UK police forces have identified around 100 “principal environmental extremists” operating across Britain, and Lothian and Borders Police believe up to 50 were in Edinburgh for last week’s protests.’

Assistant Chief Constable Iain Livingstone told the Scotsman that they ‘knew that RBS would be a potential target and the bank has premises across the city. But we built up intelligence that suggested Edinburgh Airport, the M8 and M9, the city’s banking system, Princes Street and the city centre, and the Tattoo, were major targets’. He said their policy of “control and containment” had reduced the threat of violence, leading to “minimal arrests” and no official complaints being lodged by protesters against police.’ Apparently ‘extremists linked to the Plane Stupid campaign, which saw 1,000 eco-warriors bidding to close down Heathrow three years ago, were known to be in the Capital’.

A little more ‘intelligence gathering’ would have also revealed not only that some Plane Stupid activists actually LIVE in Edinburgh but that L&B Special Branch had made a botched attempt to recruit one of them two years ago.

ACC Livingstone is clearly under pressure to justify the response which is now being questioned by politicians and so is claiming that they stopped all of these other things happening – even though no-one at the camp ever seriously discussed such ideas.

Dan

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Let’s be fair...

27.08.2010 12:52

If it wasn’t for Livingstone’s incompetent policing of the Climate Camp it would have been far less successful – it was him who told RBS to send staff home on the Monday on the basis of his ‘intellience’.

Perhaps he’s really on our side?

Anon activist


"intelligence"

27.08.2010 13:15


Police intelligence is a contradiction in terms...!!!

:-)

joke


funny as f**k

27.08.2010 13:26

to hear the copper saying extremists from teh plane stupid climate campaigns had descended on Edinburgh...it's funny, not to mention squatter extremists, blac bloc extremists because there were also anti militarist 'extremists', animal liberation 'extremists' anti capitalist 'extremists' and anti road and critical mass 'extremists, anti state extremists, anti police extremists......................ha ha - we won!'

fran


Very funny

27.08.2010 15:31

This story is very funny. Is the Assistant Chief Constable therefore saying that the other 450 or so activists at the Climate Camp were moderates? And what do they have to do to be promoted to 'extremists'?

That other Assistant Chief Constable we love so much, Anton Setchell, said that he had files on 1,900+ 'domestic extremists' and it’s hard to believe that only 100 are eco-activists.

This is clearly a pathetic attempt by the police to justify their policing of the Climate Camp as there no doubt will be questions about whether they knew what they were doing. The fact that these actions never took place is not proof that Livingstone got it right but simply that no-one intended to carry them out in the first place. He may as well claim that the police were also successful in deterring the Taliban from attacking Edinburgh because that didn’t happen either.

'Anon' is absolutely correct – without Livingstone being in control of things the Climate Camp would have been far less successful. The people I feel sorry for are the local residents whose council tax will doubtless rise to pay for his incompetence.

Andy


Confused

27.08.2010 17:32

It does sound as if the police are confused and this attempt to justify their massive reaction just exposes how little they understood about what was happening.

J


the differences

27.08.2010 19:07

>> This story is very funny. Is the Assistant Chief Constable therefore saying that the other 450 or so activists at the Climate Camp were moderates? And what do they have to do to be promoted to 'extremists'?

THe way I understand it is 'moderates' are the idealists who want to live in cloud-cookoo land but don't actually infringe onto over people too much. 'Extremists' are the nut-jobs who don't give a shit about anyone else except themselves. They are the ones that any amount of reasoning falls on flat ears, so it is best to lock them up either in a jail or a mental hospital to protect society from their actions.

To put into perspective, there are around 60 million people in the UK. So a 1,000 moderates is a about 0.000016%. Very small fringe element trying to dictate to the masses how we should live. Best to just ignore them.

arrowhead alpha


@arrowhead alpha

27.08.2010 20:39

This site is for activists and people who are prepared to go and do something about social justice issues.
If you hace some reasoned constructive criticism to add then please do so.
Otherwise please go and rant on the Daily Mail Telegraph etc etc sites which abound. We get to hear too much of your shite on the mainstream media already.

the workshy, soap-dodging, great unwashed etc etc (yawn)


cops and lobbers (see catapult action)

27.08.2010 21:40

Well first up

'police chiefs feared that a hardcore group of climate camp activists planned to launch a bid' blah blah

is so full of maybe's, possibilities and conjecture that it begs the question why the media would bother with it.

My small daughter 'fears that a hardcore bogeyman plans to launch a bid' to scare her while she is in bed, but that's not in the papers.

Next,

'Intelligence also suggested' blah blah

Police Intelligence is an oxymoron, but that aside, this is just more conjecture and opinion of the paranoid, but then we must all live in constant fear these days mustn't we, and the mainstream media are happy to print rumour and myth as fact to justify its sensationalist reportage.?

Next.

'we built up intelligence that suggested' blah blah

The uniformed branch of the police are fed bullshit by the NPOIU and the other political police and state apparatchiks who gather 'intelligence' on anybody and everybody, who signs a petition, goes on a demonstration, attends a meeting, tries to stop a school or a swimming pool or other amenity closure, or is prepared to non-violently oppose injustice and oppression. These are then added to their secret database and labelled 'Extremist'.
It is little wonder therefore, that plod gets confused when they are told that these 'extremists' (terrorists) are 'converging' on blah blah blah.

Next

'He said their policy of “control and containment” had reduced the threat of violence'.

The only violence against the person at previous Climate Camps has been from the police on unarmed climate campers, Then the cops claimed they had injuries from the CC, which later turned out to be bee stings, trapping a hand in a car door etc etc

We expect the police to arrest those who break the law, and Climate Campers are aware of the risks of being caught climbing a fence, blockading, saboaging euipment etc to try to stop climate injustice.

But ask yourself this, why do the police find it necessary to lie, obfuscate and connive to blacken the name of democratic protesters?

Is it because we have winning tactics and history on our side?

Ian Vincible


re alpha arrowhead

27.08.2010 22:17

THe way I understand it is 'moderates' are the idealists who want to live in cloud-cookoo land but don't actually drive polluting vehicles, often at high speed, too much. 'Extremists' are the nut-jobs who don't give a shit about anyone else except themselves, and jump on planes to go from Glasgow to Manchester. They are the ones that any amount of reasoning falls on flat ears, so it is best to lock them up either in a jail or a mental hospital to protect society from their actions.

cyclista


chopper

27.08.2010 23:30

@cyclista. I think you are going on the assumption that not driving a car will make a blind bit of difference? Heres how it works.... I don't buy 10 gallons of fuel, the global price of fuel drops a bit due to reduce demand. China/Africa/Russia snap up the fuel because it is cheaper and burn it anyway. If you think that me not driving a car is going to have any effect on carbon emissions then you are an idiot. And thats not evening going into the reasoning about so-called man-made climate change based on carbon emissions.

Also, your protesting is having zero effect. If you are concerned about the climate and believe carbon emissions are having an effect, why not spend all those man-hours studying engineering and coming up with alternative energy solution that are viable within the energy market?
In short, time management,... wouldn't actually making a solution yourself rather than bitching about how someone else hasn't come up with a solution be more effective.
If your so smart,.... you fix the world's energy market demands.


@Ian Vincible
You are bitching about what a crime reporter wrote in a two-bit scottish paper. Thats hardly a good way on analysing policing tasks.
1. Its 3rd hand quotes
2. Its written by an idiot
3. Its written by a scottish idiot (and therefore will hate the english regardless of content)
4. Its written in a way to sell papers rather than be trueful


Is it because we have winning tactics and history on our side?
Well. no! They lie etc etc for the same reason you activists do.... politics.

arrowhead alpha


@arrowhead alpha

28.08.2010 11:21

Well we agree that the police are politically motivated. The problem is that most people assume the police are there purely to 'uphold the law'.

I would welcome your opinion on why the police, supposedly politically neutral, decide to take a political stance and lie to us.

If, as you assume, political activists are lying, (merely your opinion) surely the best way to refute these 'lies' is for the police to take the moral high ground and tell the truth with facts to back them up.

Ian Vincible


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