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Lars Von Trier defames Denmark and praises Hitler

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At a press conference for the Cannes Film Festival, today 19 May 2011, film director Lars Von Trier answered questions about the Nazi aesthetic in his film Melancholia, by expressing open sympathy for Hitler and the Nazis. Whether you like it or not, one of the great things about the right to free speech is that it encourages Nazis to identify themselves to the the rest of the community, so that we can exercise our reciprocal right to defend ourselves against these people, their sympathizers and their apologists, if and when that might become necessary. Lars Von Trier stated "I really wanted to be a Jew, but then I found out I was really a Nazi... because my family was German... which also gave me some pleasure" - thereby defaming all Germans. He continued "I understand Hitler... I think he did some wrong things, but I can see him sitting in his bunker in the end... he's not what you would call a good guy but I understand much about him and I sympathize with him a little". Lars Von Trier went on to say "I am of course very much for Jews, no not too much" and say that "I am very much for (Nazi architect Albert) Speer, he was also one of God's best children" before finally saying "OK, I'm a Nazi". Hollywood actress Kirsten Dunst sat next to Lars Von Trier during this stream of bullshit and did... absolutely fucking nothing -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayW8aq4GLw

Lars Von Trier apologized, much later, although it's not clear whether this has to do with his real beliefs or whether he just wanted to try and rescue his career. Whether Lars Von Trier is a "real" Nazi or not, he deserves total contempt if "only" for the grotesque insensitivity he's shown to all victims of Nazism; but, not content with insulting the memory of the tens of millions of people imprisoned, tortured and murdered by Nazis, and all victims of modern race-violence and Nazi terrorism, the stupid bastard went on to insult all Danes by pleading "I do not think the international journalists understand my Danish humor".

Lars Von Trier's e-mail address is

lars.von.trier@filmbyen.com

His assistant is Emilie Spliid Clausen -

emilie.spliid@filmbyen.dk

His business partner is Peter Aalbaek Jensen

Jensen's assistant is Nina Rostock -

nina.rostock@filmbyen.com

Please do NOT insult or condemn Lars Von Trier's business associates for Von Trier's statements, but please do ask them to STOP working with him immediately. Use e-mail providers that don't reveal IP addresses and use IP shielding. If you want to support good Danish film-making, rent Flame and Citron, which is a film about killing Nazis -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_and_citron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_resistance

Aldo Raine

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20.05.2011 13:20

A Nazi, a holocaust denier, a thief.

Sounds like he would be welcome as a moderator with the Mayday collective

No friend of theft

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20.05.2011 13:52

Lars Von Trier is not a Nazi. He is someone with a bizarre and provocative sense of humour, and clearly on this occasion he's crossed a line. With Von Trier, if you take either his films or his words literally, you're being misled, and that's really his modus operandi. He's always looking to bring about a reaction.

I'm totally against fascism and as such I'd encourage people to focus on the real fascists that abound here and abroad. It's a waste of time and energy to target someone like Von Trier, who is not a Nazi sympathiser at all - I can't imagine a Nazi making 'Manderlay' - just a maverick film-maker with a childish and wayward sense of humour (which isn't typical of Danish humour of course).

thunk

Thunk harder

20.05.2011 14:47

Lars Von Trier probably isn't a serious Nazi, but people like him and John Galliano give huge positive and moral reinforcement to people who are serious Nazis, without any thought for the millions of victims they've insulted or for the long-term social and political consequences of their statements.

Real Nazis genuinely believe their ideas are best for society. Scum like Lars Von Trier KNOW that Nazism is evil, but they make statements like this just to get some cheap publicity and because they don't give a fuck about the victims they insult. Who's worse, morally speaking? In this sense, maybe people like Lars Von Trier are even worse than the real Nazis?

Maxi

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20.05.2011 15:01

Alot of Hitler's original supporters were chancers and opportunists, not "real" Nazis as such, and you say these people aren't real Nazis, but if the Euro-Fascist bandwagon picked-up the pace, they'd be first to jump on the bandwagon. Von Trier said "OK, I am a Nazi". It'd be naive to think even C18 thugs are all real Nazis, alot of them are "just" in it because they enjoy being offensive. People are responsible for their actions. Period.

Mephisto

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Oh get a grip

20.05.2011 17:57

Pathetic nonsense.

If he had said that he was an admirer of Stalin who would make a fuss then?

... probably get invited out more even though there are 10 times the victims to consider.

... hypocrisy and hysteria.

Irritant

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fascists!

20.05.2011 18:46

I see the Zionist bacteria have made a comeback. Just because he dared to criticise the State of IsraHELL, you call Europe greatest living film director a "Nazi"? What sort of ZioFascist scum are you?

Save your sympathy for the Palestinian people, you fascists!

auntie

You idiot

21.05.2011 00:51

"Just because he dared to criticise the State of IsraHELL, you call Europe greatest living film director a Nazi?"

No, moron, we call him a Nazi not because of what he said about Israel, but because he said (Lars Von Trier's own exact words) "I am a Nazi", you stupid fucking ignorant wanker

And no he isn't Europe's greatest living film director

You Tube

Stupid

21.05.2011 00:53

Q. "If he had said that he was an admirer of Stalin who would make a fuss then?"

A. People who hate Stalinism, and all Stalin's victims

Nice try jackass

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Zionist bacteria

21.05.2011 01:00

No I'm not Zionist, but the language of "Zionist bacteria" makes you sound like the Nazis who coined the term "Untermench" to denigrate their enemies as lower life forms - is that how people like you normally react in defense of scum who openly admit they're Nazis?

Penicillin

Was he telling us something?

21.05.2011 08:54

If you are a reknown film director, it would be pretty stupid to blurt out that you are a Nazi. It is not conceivable that a director would do this. I also do not believe that he is a Nazi. So, was this a clumsy attempt to do something else? Was he telling us that Nazi ideas are in fact current among the elite?

David Bowie, Brian Ferry, Prince Harry, Prince Phillip, these are some people who back Nazi ideas. According to

http://bit.ly/lAjhzB
The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor
by Scott Thompson
Printed in The American Almanac, August 25, 1997.

'One of the biggest public relations hoaxes ever perpetrated by the British Crown, is that King Edward VIII, who abdicated the throne in 1938, due to his support for the Nazis, was a ``black sheep,'' an aberration in an otherwise unblemished Windsor line. Nothing could be further from the truth. The British monarchy, and the City of London's leading Crown bankers, enthusiastically backed Hitler and the Nazis, bankrolled the Führer's election, and did everything possible to build the Nazi war machine, for Britain's planned geopolitical war between Germany and Russia.

Support for Nazi-style genocide has always been at the heart of House of Windsor policy, and long after the abdication of Edward VIII, the Merry Windsors maintained their direct Nazi links.

So, when Prince Philip, co-founder with Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands of the World Wildlife Fund (WWF), tells an interviewer that he hopes to be ``reincarnated as a deadly virus'' to help solve the ``population problem,'' he is just ``doin' what comes naturally'' for any scion of the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy (see page 8 for more quotes from Prince Philip).'

As a celebrated film director Lars would have come across members of the elite who are sympathetic to Nazism and who would want him to take on some of these views.

He could not come out and say "Your leaders back Nazi ideas". So, was his nonsense a clumsy attempt to warn us? And was the film festival decision to ban him an attempt to shut him up so he doesn't talk about this?

sdubois
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21.05.2011 09:40

Saying "I can't imagine a Nazi making Manderlay" just shows how naive you are. The reason I chose the tag Mephisto is because of the film of the same name by Istvan Szabo, based on the novel by Klaus Mann. It shows how a member of the middle-class, educated, cultural elite, who shares liberal values and enjoys mixed race relationships, allows himself to get slowly sucked-in to collaborating with the Nazis. The film and book are based on the life of Klaus Mann's real brother-in-law Gustaf Grundgens, who "is considered by many to have supported the Nazi Party and abandoned his previous political views for personal gain rather than conscience".

Ironically Grundgens' son sued to have the novel Mephisto surpressed, successfully attacking Klaus Mann's right to free speech, although when the novel was later republished unsurprisingly none of the Nazi apologists had the courage to try and stop it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephisto_(1981_film)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Gründgens

Mephisto

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an even better try

21.05.2011 10:15

it should be obvious to all functioning brains that:

... he was messin wid yer heads

... plenty of people still support and admire Stalin without any comeback or public outcry

... the argument that only the "People who hate Stalinism, and all Stalin's victims" would make a fuss - if applied to the 'nazi issue' would have you running hysterically to your keyboard to demand 'immediate action'[sic] against any whose knickers were not fully and visibly twisted.

This is called hypocrisy

Get over it (and yourself).

Irritant

You're still a jackass

21.05.2011 13:46

OK, Irritant, so you think "plenty of people still support and admire Stalin without any comeback or public outcry", but in this case this is not "hypocrisy" because I'm not one of them!

You're an idiot. Your arguments are nonsense. You don't even know what the word "hypocrisy" means

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Oooh!

21.05.2011 15:17

You got me, now I'm crying.

You're so mean ... and such a powerful argument too.

I wish I could call someone rude names, that would shut them up.

(Yawns)

Irritant

Don't take it personally

21.05.2011 15:46

The comments by 'comments' indicate that [he] thinks he is the topic at hand.

How outrageous is that?

We are discussing a principle, not your private life dear. Do try and keep up now.

Commenting

No shit Sherlock

22.05.2011 01:01

The reason I took it personally is because Irritant meant to make a statement about what he or she believes to be society's double-standards in condemning Stalinism (or in not condemning it enough), but got confused, and accused me personally of hypocrisy on the basis of projecting their own feelings about that issue onto me. Irritant's argument about that was as confused as his/her argument about Lars Von Trier. Either way, because Stalinism was evil, and whether or not society has double standards, doesn't reduce the evil of Nazism, or the stupidity of Lars Von Trier

As for the genius in question, maybe you do wish you could call someone rude names, but at the moment you can't even manage a coherent response to the fact that you didn't know what the word "hypocrisy" means. And if you choose to make excuses for someone who says, quote, "I am a Nazi", expect to be called rude names

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True Colors

22.05.2011 01:09

Shame Indymedia removed the original comment about "Zionist Bacteria", because that really showed Lars Von Trier's apologists showing their true colors

A Jew

Its time to forgive and forget WW2

22.05.2011 09:05

Contary to it image Denmarks' not a liberal country. It is a right wing nationalist country, with a strong protestant work ethic, and a controversial viking history. Praising hitler might be illegal in germany but the rest of the world still debates his horible legacy.

When chamberlin did a "peace" deal with hitler in 1938, the text of that agreement was that britian would never go to war with germany. Hitler was always convinced we would side with him in their war with stalin. King Edward VIII was part of the House of Hanover, cousin of kasier wilhelm.

Denmark buildings got lucky escape from ww2 amagedon, compared to eastern Europe, so their memories of the war isnt so bad. Most of their jews fled over the border to "neutral" Sweden, so I dont think you can critise them for the death camps. The fascist work camps & slave labour camps were of course an outrage.

historian

What the fuck?

23.05.2011 08:31

Great thing about these kind of posts is they smoke-out arseholes. "Its time to forgive and forget WW2... I dont think you can critise them for the death camps"??!?!?!? What the fuck is this moron trying to say?

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out of proportion

Thunk harder

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Oh get a grip

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fascists!

You idiot

Stupid

Zionist bacteria

Was he telling us something?

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an even better try

You're still a jackass

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Oooh!

Don't take it personally

No shit Sherlock

True Colors

Its time to forgive and forget WW2

What the fuck?

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