Mmm...'rebel betrayers'?! Does an article like this not deserve a reasoned reply/debate on Indymedia? Or is the consensus to ignore such comments because of the sentiment they contain? Seems like a reasoned debate on Nato intervention on Libya is a really important issue for the european libertarian movement to tackle; so is it happening elsewhere or are indymedia posts a good place to debate such issues?

What do people think??

as far as i'm aware extremist libyan islamist groups (many fresh from iraq) are being armed and funded by the west and are being instructed to set up banks and sell oil because the west wants to secure libyan oil (esp the exploration rights) as well as stop gadaffi instituting a new gold backed currency for opec to trade oil in thus destroying the dollar as a world currency and crashing the american economy. western powers are going all out to assassinate gadaffi and his backers and are not too fussed about 'collateral damage' on the population (using depleted uranium on the population like in iraq for instance, or killing a score of civilians in an individual air strike).

oh, and there's also the issue of securing one of only two ports in the mediteranean that the west does not control (the other being in Syria, where the russians have planned a massive naval base), and using libya as a base to control MENA, as well as kicking china out of the running for future libyan oil contracts (hence the chinese evacuation of 30,000 of its workers in libya).

the humanitarian issue is being used as propaganda by the western empire to justify this in the mainstream press. The next stop is iran. the propaganda is already in full swing (mainstream stories of iranian missile bases in venezuela, iran linked to 9-11, iran causing the uprsings in bahrain/syria, etc)

what's to discuss? it's pretty clear that western intervention in libya is simply about empire. there is no humanitarian agenda. never has and never will be. it's just the usual story of empire given a fluffy coating to make it more digestible for the masses.

I think the people are utterly disgusted by this clear and obvious attempt at regime change.

Obviously what didn't work for Labour and the Republican's is something the Conservative and Liberal shower feel must be made to work for them.

Just goes to show that our government is a sham and a complete fraud.

We in the UK are governed by the US.

It is time for us to consider a violent revolt.