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EDL members stabbed in clashes with muslim youths during 9/11 MAC protest.

anon | 12.09.2011 00:54 | Anti-racism | South Coast

Muslims Against Crusades demonstrated at the American Embassy in London on a 9/11 memorial. The English Defence League counter protested MAC. Clashes between the EDL and Muslim youth led to two stabbings of EDL members outside a JD Whetherspoons on Edgeware Road. There were clashes in Hyde Park, Marble Arch and Oxford Street between the EDL and MAC.

The EDL members who were stabbed are in a stable condition and spoke in ambulances to their friends at the scene. At least one man has been arrested for the stabbings.

anon
- Homepage: http://www.demotix.com/news/826626/edl-members-stabbed-edgware-road-london-after-911-clashes

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Were any anti-fascists involved?

12.09.2011 04:36

It was madness to hold a 9/11 ceremony in London, as a provocation to further violence, terrorism and warmongering. Naturally the Muslim fanatics resent the Christian fanatics, both hierarchical. The EDL were there because they hate the Muslims but where were the anti-fascists who hate the EDL? Maybe they were there but not reported?

Lucky


Muslims protested AGAINST Anjem Choudary and MAC

12.09.2011 10:28

 http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23985907-two-men-stabbed-as-protesters-clash-at-911-memorial-services.do

Two men were seriously hurt when they were stabbed in clashes between the English Defence League and Muslim protesters after a 9/11 memorial service in London. The two men are thought to have been on OPPOSING sides during a pitched battle outside a pub in Edgware Road last night.

The groups staged rival protests outside the American Embassy in Grosvenor Square during a minute's silence to mark the moment when the first hijacked plane hit New York's World Trade Center 10 years ago. About 100 activists from radical Islamist groups including Muslims Against Crusades set fire to a US flag while others shouted slogans including "USA terrorists". Sixty members of the far-Right group staged a counter demonstration and both groups then took part in an unplanned 90-minute march along Park Lane and Edgware Road to Regent's Park Mosque. A fight broke out outside the Tyburn pub in Edgware Road in which the two men were stabbed. More than 40 people were arrested during the day, 13 of them in connection with assaults during the brawl at about 6pm.

An eyewitness, who did not wish to be named, said: "There was a group of EDL guys drinking outside the pub when a large group of Muslims walked past. The EDL started hurling RACIST ABUSE at the Muslims who took offence. They got angry and were yelling back. Then the EDL guys picked up pub furniture and started throwing glasses and chairs and tables at the group in the street. It was chaos. At first it was just 10 EDL guys but that number quickly swelled to about 50 people. The police were on the scene really quickly. They separated the groups and just started arresting people."

Earlier radical Islamists, including hate preacher Anjem Choudary, gathered in Grosvenor Square as families of British 9/11 victims prepared for a remembrance ceremony in the September 11 memorial garden. A smaller group of Muslims staged a counter-demonstration nearby, holding up placards reading "Muslims Against Extremism" and "If You Want Sharia, Move To Saudi".

98


Anti-Fascists should stay well out of this

12.09.2011 10:33

Anti-Fascists should stay well out of this. MAC and EDL are both Fascist groups, and if they want to slug it out between themselves they should find a deserted car park and fucking get on with it. Either way, I can't believe the cops allowed MAC to protest yesterday, why didn't the cops give them a protest site in some deserted back-street and force them to gob off there rather in front of the TV cameras near the American Embassy? Seriously Anjem Choudary must be working for the CIA or MI6

Wikipedia


The danger

12.09.2011 11:46

With this is that anyone who turned up to counter demo MAC would have been accused of being EDL/fascist sympathisers. Which of course in nonscence because Muslims were counter protesting against the MAC!

Dan Factor


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98

12.09.2011 12:39

thanks for your input 98, alias neil lees/bnp info, this is a common tactic by commies to defend muslim extremists and tell lies about incidents such as the edl attacked the muslims first, when in fact the muslims charged into the pub with knives,

dick terrapin


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muslims counter protest mac

12.09.2011 13:05

how many muslims live in the london. thousands. how many of them turned up to protest against mac?

dick terrapin


fuck the edl

12.09.2011 13:15

perhaps that is because most of them wouldn't want to stand besides bunch of edl morons and be seen as part of same protest, didn't you think about it dick(head)?

anarchist


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Dream on!

12.09.2011 16:48

Anarcist....And YOU had every chance to get the EDL but failed! You keep harping on about them not entering Tower Hamlets but it certianly wasn't because of so called 'anti fash'...The Police stopped us and NO ONE else. You had every chance to get us in Luton, in Blackpool, In Dudley, in Bolton and in Stoke (Which would have been a grave error on your part and you know it!) And let's not forget the pathetic attempt to do a sneaky attack in Nottingham

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_lZQCtn0Qs

Run rats run!

Bloke


Good on em

12.09.2011 17:44

Pity they didnt stab a few more of em. Two less. More to go. Thats the only language the fash undertand. That why the cops always protect the fash against asian wrath. The fash would be slaughtered if it werent for the cops.

A


Jeff Baldrick Marsh & EDL strategy

12.09.2011 18:03


The EDL Facebook's claiming the EDL put their "screamers and flagwavers" at Bond Street tube station to attract the attention of the police, and keep the cops occupied while their main firms gathered at places like Speakers Corner, before marching to oppose Anjem Choudary's nutters near the US Embassy. Basically these pillocks (on both sides) are of near zero interest to Anti-Fascists when they're attacking each other, except to say this is more evidence of EDL *thinking* they're getting strategically sophisticated in terms of using misdirection to confuse their opponents.

Similar alleged misdirection before the EDL Tower Hamlets debacle was (if it was really ever planned misdirection in the first place) so cunning that it successfully led dozens of EDL supporters into the arms of waiting cops at Euston Station, and hundreds of EDL into a TSG kettle at Kings Cross, and didn't help the smaller EDL group to evade police kettling at Liverpool Street station either.

Since the police reserved a place for the EDL to protest on Sept 11 anyway and therefore had no intention of stopping EDL travelling to the protest site in the 1st place, and since the EDL were (by their Facebook statement's own admission) recognised by the cops the instant they arrived at the US Embassy anyway, again the EDL's cunning plan achieved nothing except to reduce EDL numbers when they actually needed them. Put it this way - if the police lose 20 officers to keep an eye on a few knob 'eads outside Bond Street the cops still have potentially unlimited reinforcements, but if the EDL lose 20 of their guys to one of Jeff Marsh's brainwaves then in this case that flushed a whopping 25% of their actual manpower!!!

Reason for posting this is to point out to EDL grunts that despite all his bluster about being a "Ninja" etc, Jeff "Own Goal" Marsh and the other geniuses are totally fucking hopeless and delusional as actual leaders. Moral of the story for Anti-Fascists is that the EDL are starting to try and box clever - they're still shit at it mind you, but in future we'll need more roving spotters.

Congratulations to the Muslims who protested against Anjem Choudary

Vodaphone


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The EDL are right to stand up to Islamic extremists!

12.09.2011 18:15

The EDL are right to stand up to Islamic extremists who support terrorism and sharia law! The EDL will never give up fighting against Islamic extremists!
 http://www.facebook.com/EDL.EnglishDefenceLeague.NS

Proud EDL member


fuck off back to stormfront

12.09.2011 18:20

>> Pity they didnt stab a few more of em. Two less. More to go. Thats the only language the fash undertand. That why the cops always protect the fash against asian wrath. The fash would be slaughtered if it werent for the cops.

Well we obviously know what kind of tormented person you are?
Go back to watching Van Damme movies......... no one here wants anyone stabbing.

This is England, not some far flung place where people go around stabbing each other.
Its people like you that cause the issue.

anon


All shaping up nicely for a future clash of civilisations

12.09.2011 19:30

previous commenter "wikipedia" said: "Seriously Anjem Choudary must be working for the CIA or MI6 "

- I agree. There are wheels within wheels on both sides of the argument. All shaping up nicely for a future clash of civilisations, isn't it!

Israel bombing Iran will no doubt be the petrol laced fire-cracker that will get the inferno raging

counterblast


State intervention and the undermining of protest

13.09.2011 01:31

'Wikipedia' wrote:

"Either way, I can't believe the cops allowed MAC to protest yesterday, why didn't the cops give them a protest site in some deserted back-street and force them to gob off there rather in front of the TV cameras near the American Embassy?"

Giving the cops the right to determine where a protest will be held, and how it will be held is the easiest way to render protest as totally ineffective. The police intervention should come only once a crime is alleged to have taken place.

We have seen what happens when the police are called on to ban marches, with the calls for the EDL march to be banned leading to a ban on marching in 6 boroughs for 30 days.

As the protester whose threatened legal action resulted in the ban being lifted in 4 of the boroughs stated:

“It is deeply concerning that the police and the Home Secretary attempted to use the funeral of an innocent
man, who died at the hands of state agents, to prevent legitimate protests taking place. Further, it makes no
sense as the ban covered a completely different geographical area. This is yet another example of the lack
of transparency we face when dealing with the police, and shows that we must challenge their decisions to
ensure accountability.”
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/09/484555.html

ACAB


fuck off back to the guardian

13.09.2011 07:32

>> Pity they didnt stab a few more of em. Two less. More to go. Thats the only language the fash undertand. That why the cops always protect the fash against asian wrath. The fash would be slaughtered if it werent for the cops.

>>>>Well we obviously know what kind of tormented person you are? Go back to watching Van Damme movies......... no one here wants anyone stabbing. This is England, not some far flung place where people go around stabbing each other. Its people like you that cause the issue.


You clearly don't know this site very well. By the way I love the casual racism - English people don't stab people ... they shoot them, bomb them, deport them back to their far flung places, lock them up on spurious charges. Blind Englishmen don't see the violence we export daily to ringfence our little patch of civilised grass at the expense of 5 billion fellow humans who weren't lucky enough to be born into a molly-coddled society. You sound like a spoiled little royal prince scoffing at the disgusting normal people.

And on a completely different note, how fucking privileged and sheltered are you ... "this is england, not some far flung place where people go around stabbing each other" ... never stepped outside of surrey has one dahling?

@


The two stabbed named

13.09.2011 08:33

The two stabbed were Tony Bexley and Micky Bayliss. Both are EDL and said to be recovering and are going to be OK. There has been at least one arrest.

anon


casual racists

13.09.2011 17:45

>> You clearly don't know this site very well. By the way I love the casual racism - English people don't stab people ... they shoot them, bomb them, deport them back to their far flung places, lock them up on spurious charges. Blind Englishmen don't see the violence we export daily to ringfence our little patch of civilised grass at the expense of 5 billion fellow humans who weren't lucky enough to be born into a molly-coddled society. You sound like a spoiled little royal prince scoffing at the disgusting normal people.

You clearly don't know England very well. And, i also love the casual racism - English people don't shoot or bomb people - so fuck off with your racist shit.

And on a completely different note, how fucking privileged and sheltered are you ... "this is england, not some far flung place where people go around stabbing each other" ... never stepped outside of surrey has one dahling?

Clearly you don't like English people - that much is clear.
Fuck off then, go and get your knife and strut around looking hard....... but remember: live by the knife, die by the knife. Don't be surprised if you bump into someone just like yourself and they stab you.

anon


Agreed

13.09.2011 18:00

This sums it up nicely:

"""And on a completely different note, how fucking privileged and sheltered are you ... "this is england, not some far flung place where people go around stabbing each other" ... never stepped outside of surrey has one dahling?"""


Another dickhead who thinks it's cool to carry a knife around and stab people.
Makes me sick. They SHOULD be deported.

Character Building


daily mail brigade out in force today

14.09.2011 05:55

So are you saying that all knife-violence is perpetrated by immigrants? Or are you suggesting we start deporting brits from britain? This just gets funnier and funnier.

By the by, I wasn't saying it's cool to go around with a knife - you put those words in my mouth. I just think you must be one of the most blinkered people in the country if you think no one in UK gets knifed, shot or bombed. Maybe your head's buried in the sand, but more likely it's too firmly lodged up your arse for you to see the plainly obvious.

a


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facts

14.09.2011 21:15

>> So are you saying that all knife-violence is perpetrated by immigrants?
Nope. Although theres plenty of stats to show slightly more is per populous.

>> Or are you suggesting we start deporting brits from britain?
Yes. Absolutely.

>> This just gets funnier and funnier.
Is it? Interesting that you think the topic of trying to reduce the number of innocent victims of knife crime is "funny". I'm sure you are the kind of person that has a quick giggle everytime they read of someone getting stabbed.

>> By the by, I wasn't saying it's cool to go around with a knife - you put those words in my mouth.
I didn't say that you were saying that. I basically said that you reactions indicated that.

>> I just think you must be one of the most blinkered people in the country if you think no one in UK gets knifed, shot or bombed.
But much less so than some countries. Eg. visit somewhere major city like Nairobi (I have), and you will witness a far greater level of violent crime than you ever see in any city in the UK.
Why you suddenly turn this around that I'm being racist is stupid. Its simply a fact. Its a city in a foreign country with about 3million people that has much more violent crime per populous than any city in the UK with much higher populations. Statement of fact. Not being racist.

>> Maybe your head's buried in the sand, but more likely it's too firmly lodged up your arse for you to see the plainly obvious.
Not so. You have nothing to back that statement up except you think im a racist for some reason when i just say england has less violent crime than many other countries in the world (per populous).

Character Building


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link

14.09.2011 21:18

Further info:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairobi#Crime

If you been there - you would know what i mean.

Character Building


idjiot

15.09.2011 17:14

>> So are you saying that all knife-violence is perpetrated by immigrants? Or are you suggesting we start deporting brits from britain? This just gets funnier and funnier.


all? Of course not. But more is.

Im suggesting we start importing people who carry weapons on our streets illegally.

funnier and funnier? Glad you can laugh about people getting stabbed. Wanker

anon


racist dickhead

15.09.2011 17:31

"Im suggesting we start importing people who carry weapons on our streets illegally."

I guess you're being unintentionally hilarious at this point.

Can we presume that you want to import them from countries where the population is all white?

nonA


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