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Gadaffi - new evidence

The JUNGLESURFER | 25.10.2011 08:18

Following on from the post yesterday by Knot Eyed Jaguar
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/10/487429.html there is now further evidence that Gaddafi is alive and well.

These videos provide further evidence of some of the points first raised yesterday

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vVgG_RqPiY

Fingers, clearly fake
Mention of the blended films first mentioned yesterday
Shows where a photoshoped still image was inserted


Here we have the RT news Arabic language service  http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJUNGLESURFER#p/u/1/7OH_gG92AtY
talking about the discrepancies in the video and the use of non Libyan Arabic spoken by the soldiers in the video.

The JUNGLESURFER

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Further evidence

25.10.2011 08:53

This video

 http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011102411136222705.html

Shows how the story is changing now, the so called body on display clearly a different one to that of yesterday. His Excellency is alive and well and continuing to direct the resistance against the NATO dogs and Zionist rats

Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya


Overnight update

25.10.2011 09:05

Last night I spoke with a friend in Milan who has information concerning the transfer of gold between Chad and Zimbabwe. Some Gadaffi mercenaries with links to the Democratic Revolutionary Council (CDR) militia arranged the transfer as payment for his escape. The gold was moved via an Ilyushin Il-76 that flew directly to Zimbabwe after collecting the gold at Zougra Airport.

My information is that Hannibal Muammar Gaddafi was also on the flight together with Abdullah Senussi the former Internal Security chief.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar


lol, nice video

25.10.2011 10:56

starts out very subtle, but made me laugh.

For those people who haven't bothered to watch it - it's a spoof on conspiracy theories.

anon


Spoof ?

25.10.2011 11:27

Not sure what you are referring to here.

The JUNGLESURFER


Fake comments continuing.

25.10.2011 11:30

"Last night I spoke with a friend in Milan who has information concerning the transfer of gold between Chad and Zimbabwe. Some Gadaffi mercenaries with links to the Democratic Revolutionary Council (CDR) militia arranged the transfer as payment for his escape. The gold was moved via an Ilyushin Il-76 that flew directly to Zimbabwe after collecting the gold at Zougra Airport.

My information is that Hannibal Muammar Gaddafi was also on the flight together with Abdullah Senussi the former Internal Security chief."

FAKE.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar (the real one)


Trolling again, ignore.

25.10.2011 11:42

"This video

 http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011102411136222705.html

Shows how the story is changing now, the so called body on display clearly a different one to that of yesterday. His Excellency is alive and well and continuing to direct the resistance against the NATO dogs and Zionist rats"

"Last night I spoke with a friend in Milan who has information concerning the transfer of gold between Chad and Zimbabwe. Some Gadaffi mercenaries with links to the Democratic Revolutionary Council (CDR) militia arranged the transfer as payment for his escape. The gold was moved via an Ilyushin Il-76 that flew directly to Zimbabwe after collecting the gold at Zougra Airport.

My information is that Hannibal Muammar Gaddafi was also on the flight together with Abdullah Senussi the former Internal Security chief."

"starts out very subtle, but made me laugh.

For those people who haven't bothered to watch it - it's a spoof on conspiracy theories."



This guys a bit of a loonie.

He's got himself very upset over being constantly trounced on this site by somebody posting under the name Knot-Eyed Jaguar and is now posting under that name himself.

He seems obesessed at the moment and is on a bit of a mission to destroy the name Knot-Eyed Jaguar rather than accept reality.

He carries statist views, is strongly authoritarian and spends a LOT of time spamming or trolling Indymedia.

This is his way of grizzling to mummy because he isn't getting his way.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar (the real one)


Which part of the comment is fake ?

25.10.2011 11:47

Could you let us know which part of the comment is fake and how you know that, it does look suspiciously like you are trolling this thread in the same way you (?) did yesterday.

For example I know the following to be true.


>>>>> The Ilyushin Il-76 that flew directly to Zimbabwe after ... Zougra Airport.

That is clearly shown on CANSO records

>>>>>> Hannibal Muammar Gaddafi was also on the flight together with Abdullah Senussi the former Internal Security chief."

The LTC are also saying that Hannibal has left and they think to Africa, Abdullah Senussi has not been seen for some weeks but has been known to be close to Hanniabal and was with him when he crossed into Algeria, that was confirmed by the BBC.

I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about which Knot Eyered Jaguar you are just about the facts of the post you allege is untrue. This is important stuff and lives are at stake.

Innocent bystander


What a fucking goof.

25.10.2011 11:48

"These videos provide further evidence of some of the points first raised yesterday

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vVgG_RqPiY

Fingers, clearly fake
Mention of the blended films first mentioned yesterday
Shows where a photoshoped still image was inserted


Here we have the RT news Arabic language service  http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJUNGLESURFER#p/u/1/7OH_gG92AtY
talking about the discrepancies in the video and the use of non Libyan Arabic spoken by the soldiers in the video."



Go back to bed you fucking imbecile.

Silly cunt.

Ghaddafi is dead you fucking spastic, he was murdered by Libyan nationalsists backed by NATO. He was murdered, killed, assassinated, gunned down, wiped out, bumped off, illiminated, disposed of.

ABSOLUTELY NOBODY BELIEVES OTHERWISE.

You are just trolling indymedia because you have a mental problem because you are one of lifes fucking FAILURES.

Moderators, what the fuck is this and that other article still doing here.

Explain.

Dipshit.


Who are you people ?

25.10.2011 11:49

"and is now posting under that name himself."

Which is what you just did !!!

WTF !


MODS PLEASE HELP

25.10.2011 11:52

MODs please can posts by Knot Eyed Jaguar be hidden, he has spammed the newswire for two days now with this Qadaffi alive crap and it's a distraction from real news.

Thanks

Bored of this shit


FAIL

25.10.2011 11:53

"I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about which Knot Eyered Jaguar you are just about the facts of the post you allege is untrue. This is important stuff and lives are at stake."

FAIL.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar (the real one)


Fake

25.10.2011 11:53

It's fake because I did not post it ergo it cannot be true.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar (the real one)


FAIL

25.10.2011 11:54

"MODs please can posts by Knot Eyed Jaguar be hidden, he has spammed the newswire for two days now with this Qadaffi alive crap and it's a distraction from real news.
Thanks"


FAIL.

Tel Kilpatrick


My our troll is in a state

25.10.2011 11:55

Looks like our Troll has woken up which suggests he may be in the US and is back

I hope he doesn't get a visit from friends of mine and get hurt

Knot-Eyed Jaguar


FAIL

25.10.2011 11:55

"It's fake because I did not post it ergo it cannot be true."

FAIL

allison.


FAIL

25.10.2011 11:56

"Looks like our Troll has woken up which suggests he may be in the US and is back

I hope he doesn't get a visit from friends of mine and get hurt"

FAIL

allison


Threat ?

25.10.2011 11:57

"Looks like our Troll has woken up which suggests he may be in the US and is back

I hope he doesn't get a visit from friends of mine and get hurt"

Is that a threat ?

Knot-Eyed Jaguar


FAIL

25.10.2011 11:58

""Looks like our Troll has woken up which suggests he may be in the US and is back

I hope he doesn't get a visit from friends of mine and get hurt"

Is that a threat ?"


FAIL

Pete L


Not a threat

25.10.2011 11:58

I do not make threats, I was doing no more than making an observation.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar (the real one)


Threat

25.10.2011 11:59

Some people need threatening from time to time

Pete L


FAIL

25.10.2011 11:59

"I do not make threats, I was doing no more than making an observation."

FAIL

Colin


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:01

"Some people need threatening from time to time"


FAIL

Muttya


Looks like you are simply a troll after all.

25.10.2011 12:07

Knot Eyed Jaguar, clearly you have some information relating to aircraft movements that demands greater scrutiny but I can see you are being attacked by a person or persons unknown for reasons they probably understand and we can only guess at.

I would appreciate if you could contact me on the email here I have info as well so I would like to compare notes.

Innocent bystander
mail e-mail: RobertScott@gmail.com


The Disinformation machine is working hard I see

25.10.2011 12:13

Looks like our troll is working as hard today as he was yesterday :-)

Indymedia readers will I'm sure draw their own conclusions as to the reasons behind news of Gadaffi's escape from Libya being obscured in this way.

In the meanwhile the post yesterday has already been referenced by Sky News
 http://news.sky.com/home
and
Al Jazeera
 http://www.aljazeera.net/portal

Both of whom are conducting their own investigations into the errors, mistakes and lies in the video of what was once thought to be Gadaffi's death.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar


Troll behaviour.

25.10.2011 12:13

Come on troll, we are all waiting for you.

KEJ

Genuine.


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:15

"Knot Eyed Jaguar, clearly you have some information relating to aircraft movements that demands greater scrutiny but I can see you are being attacked by a person or persons unknown for reasons they probably understand and we can only guess at.

I would appreciate if you could contact me on the email here I have info as well so I would like to compare notes."


FAIL

matheus.


For Innocent bystander aka RobertScott@gmail.com

25.10.2011 12:15

I have just emailed you now from my Yahoo account. Let's talk soon.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:15

"Looks like our troll is working as hard today as he was yesterday :-)

Indymedia readers will I'm sure draw their own conclusions as to the reasons behind news of Gadaffi's escape from Libya being obscured in this way.

In the meanwhile the post yesterday has already been referenced by Sky News
 http://news.sky.com/home
and
Al Jazeera
 http://www.aljazeera.net/portal

Both of whom are conducting their own investigations into the errors, mistakes and lies in the video of what was once thought to be Gadaffi's death."


FAIL

allison


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:16

"I have just emailed you now from my Yahoo account. Let's talk soon."


FAIL

Pete L


This is nothing to do with me

25.10.2011 12:20

Whatever little feud this group has got going on is nothing to do with me. Please take it somewhere else.

The JUNGLESURFER
- Homepage: www.youtube.com/user/TheJUNGLESURFER


This is very funny but take it somewhere else

25.10.2011 12:22

Would you two children take your little argument somewhere else, it's very boring.

Nutterwatch


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:23

"Whatever little feud this group has got going on is nothing to do with me. Please take it somewhere else

FAIL

Pete L


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:25



"Whatever little feud this group has got going on is nothing to do with me. Please take it somewhere else."



FAIL

allison


All day long.

25.10.2011 12:25

"Would you two children take your little argument somewhere else, it's very boring."


Just troll killing, thats all.

Pete L


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:26

"Whatever little feud this group has got going on is nothing to do with me. Please take it somewhere else."



FAIL
allison




FAIL

Pete L


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:27

All day long.


"Would you two children take your little argument somewhere else, it's very boring."


Just troll killing, thats all.
Pete L



FAIL

allison


A plague on both your houses

25.10.2011 12:29

"Just troll killing, thats all"

By trolling ?

IMC MoD (who will shortly be hiding this thread and all posts)


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:31

"A plague on both your houses
25.10.2011 12:29

"Just troll killing, thats all"

By trolling ?
IMC MoD (who will shortly be hiding this thread and all posts) "





FAIL

Knot-Eyed Jaguar (the real one)


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:32

"FAIL
25.10.2011 12:31

"A plague on both your houses
25.10.2011 12:29

"Just troll killing, thats all"

By trolling ?
IMC MoD (who will shortly be hiding this thread and all posts) "





FAIL
Knot-Eyed Jaguar (the real one) "



FAIL

Pete L


about time.

25.10.2011 12:34

IMC MoD (who will shortly be hiding this thread and all posts)"


Good, best thing for it.

Pete L


Further information

25.10.2011 12:51

The Ilyushin Il-76 is either tail number Z-WTV or EW-263TH. It seems that two different call signs were used during the flight. The aircraft is currently in a hanger at Harare-Manyam airbase under close guard.

Air Vice Marshall Perence Shiri was also seen when the aircraft landed which is unusual as he spends much of his time at Gweru-Thornhil air base where he has his villa and two of his wives.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar


FAIL

25.10.2011 12:55

"IMC MoD (who will shortly be hiding this thread and all posts)"


Good, best thing for it.
Pete L "



FAIL

Pete L (the real one)


FAIL.

25.10.2011 12:59



The Ilyushin Il-76 is either tail number Z-WTV or EW-263TH. It seems that two different call signs were used during the flight. The aircraft is currently in a hanger at Harare-Manyam airbase under close guard.

Air Vice Marshall Perence Shiri was also seen when the aircraft landed which is unusual as he spends much of his time at Gweru-Thornhil air base where he has his villa and two of his wives.





FAIL

anonymous


Activists in Zimbabawe

25.10.2011 13:27

I recognise that it is difficult for activists in Zimbabwe to post to Indymedia but if anybody can take some photos of aircraft at Gweru-Thornhil air base and post them here that would help to prove one part of the story.

Thanks

Knot-Eyed Jaguar


FAIL

25.10.2011 13:31

"Activists in Zimbabawe

25.10.2011 13:27
I recognise that it is difficult for activists in Zimbabwe to post to Indymedia but if anybody can take some photos of aircraft at Gweru-Thornhil air base and post them here that would help to prove one part of the story.

Thanks

Knot-Eyed Jaguar"


FAIL

Pete L


If this discussion is any indication then they knowingly killed a body double

26.10.2011 14:43

The rumour around the German involvement leaked through the BND´s own mouthpieces rather than through the Wiki - very likely a deliberate attempt to noise out traces of a false flag operation in this context.

Gehlen Ork


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