it's great the edl + nwi etc came unstuck, but one sure fire way to make sure counter-mobilisations remain confined to the radical ghetto is to use these events as an excuse to fly loads of anarchist flags

seriously, guaranteed to put-off 99% of the general public

from liveraf's blog post: "We had heard before the day began that there were going to be flash demos in Hyde and Heywood whilst the Bolton demo went on. However, even accounting for these (which were themselves small and met with local opposition) the turnout today by the Infidels was utterly abysmal. UAF outnumbered their opposition, and militant anti-fascists outnumbered both groups combined."

A small bunch of working class football lads would take care of those anti fascists in the photo in 15 seconds. When was the last time those in the photo took part in a serious head on fight with a live opponent? I would say most of them have never had a real fight in their lives. Unlike some of the footie lads, who have been in numerous violent confrontations with other football firms. For a lot of them violence is a part of their lives, they give it and take it, and that includeds their social lives away from football.

Most of the footie lads attached to the fascists have no real interest in politics, or even know what a fascist is. They are there because they enjoy violence, like many young men of their class.
This hard man act from anti fascists is sometimes laughable.
Putting a hoodie on and covering your face, does not make you some super fighter.
It is like pretending just because you wear a pair of boxing gloves, it makes you ready to take on Amir Khan in the ring.

The real truth is that there wil be hardly any violence anyway because of the police containing the fascists, as I am sure many anti fascists are aware when they turn up for these demos.

Some of these commemts are moronic. pretend Army man, you have shit all, we've all seen snowys face book about getting people to bolton after the 'decoys' failed. Flying red & black flags- i kind of agree but that photo was taken of a partof the group after the action with no public about, and its only on activist sites. As for thr footy lads comments, i disagree, many of the antifa there are mma fighters, or simalar who train regularly, and cod see off a drunk hooligan in seconds. The nature of antifa has had to change due to the policing, and cctv etc. Its not a case of going toe to toe anymore at demos, but there are those of us who would openly enjoy one of those fascist pricks making the first move. Its easy to slate people on line when you wernt there.

Nice try, this article seems biased though. Why were the other side demonstrating?

What exactly are you trying to prove looking all 'ninja' with masks, doesn't really show anything imo.

it's great the edl + nwi etc came unstuck, but one sure fire way to make sure counter-mobilisations remain confined to the radical ghetto is to use these events as an excuse to fly loads of anarchist flags

>> seriously, guaranteed to put-off 99% of the general public

Agreed. They look an unsavoury lot that most of the public would feel are up to no good.


>> A small bunch of working class football lads would take care of those anti fascists in the photo in 15 seconds. When was the last time those in the photo took part in a serious head on fight with a live opponent? I would say most of them have never had a real fight in their lives. Unlike some of the footie lads, who have been in numerous violent confrontations with other football firms. For a lot of them violence is a part of their lives, they give it and take it, and that includeds their social lives away from football.

I recon a few squaddie's with infantry kit could easily take out your football lads with less than 15 seconds. Football lads spend about 99% of the time arm waving and jeering without actually doing any action. By that time, a squaddie could put two full clips of 5.56mm fire their direction without even breaking a sweat. Most football firm lads havn't seen real combat on a battlefield, they are mostly just brawlers, using numbers to intimidate and fueled up by alcohol. Mostly mouth, with a bit of pushing and shoving, but no real threat in a battle confrontation.

>> This hard man act from anti fascists is sometimes laughable. Putting a hoodie on and covering your face, does not make you some super fighter. It is like pretending just because you wear a pair of boxing gloves, it makes you ready to take on Amir Khan in the ring.

Agreed. Its mostly fashion. Most of them have done no fight conditioning let alone sparring.
They want to be the fighter, but the hard conditioning and diet requirements would just drove most away, so they tend to stick to playing Tekken on their XBOXes. Fasc and Anti-fasc are the same in this regard. "Fortunately", for them, the police separate them, so they can do all the arm waving and pretend that the police prevented them from fighting. If they had any balls, they would go through the police.

..... too many trolls, too many, many trolls!!!!

Oh, and that person pretending to be Ketlan is not Ketlan at all, but a neo-nazi "divide and conquer" troll!

Whenever there is any anti-fash posts on Indymedia, all the fash start trolling, probably because the keyboard warriors (worriers) of the EDL are unable to get girlffriends, and spend all day struck in-front of their computers!

Loving the muscle-flexing wankers on here trying to up the ante of manhood. Our football hoolies beat your anarchists - yeah but our squaddies beat your football hoolies - my dick's bigger than yours, etc.

Will the last one to finish please eat the soggy biscuit.

Cheers, Troll Hayta. The nazi troll pretending to be me is talking bollocks, as most nazis do. What a pity they don't have the courage to use their real names. Gutless tossers.

Speak not of your puny earth 'working class football lads' and trouble not my counsel with your fictitious 'squaddies'.

Behold the products of my flesh vats - the real black block, the fighting Uruk-Hai.

Your arse on a plate I believe.

and as the vast majority of the EDL's so-called football "hooligans" are barely-literate morons, there's not much hope for them

I think you'll find the anti-fascists masking up is just so they can't be identified (by police or fascists), not because they have any desire to be street-fighting ninjas. Maybe the EDL should learn a few lessons here, as they are so keen on exposing their embarrassing and unsavoury personal details for all to see on Facebook.