Trolls come and go but they rarely fool most people. They might fool a few idiots but they don't matter.

The far right have succesfully infiltrated a small section of the the uk animal rights movement aided by a handful of naive mouthy idiots on facebook who have welcomed these scum with open arms and continue to do so.

Don't let the same thing happen here, stay safe.

there is no attempt at infiltration by the far right in this instance. In fact the far right (English Defence League, Casuals United, March for England just look at  http://www.facebook.com/pages/English-Defence-League-The-Mighty-Brighton-Infidels/145298232155949) are making constant threats against us. This is a campaign of trolling by the far right aimed at undermining us.

Thanks for the link. Facebook has a lot to answer for. Good luck with countering these bastards.

Trolling is a non-violent disruptive and peaceful form of protest.
I don't see the issue - if someone disagrees with SmashEDO then surely it is their right to be able to protest against it?

Otherwise we arnt living in a free country where all protests should be tolerated.

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/static/editorial.html

The issue is, external insider trolling is worse than external insider trading.

"Trolling is a non-violent disruptive and peaceful form of protest."

Spreading absolute falsehoods on the internet to damage campaigns and activists is unacceptable and in contravention of the guidelines for the site. In particular:

-Inaccurate: posts that are inaccurate or misleading.

-Disruptive: Contributions by individuals who habitually publish above mentioned discouraged content. Posts where topical or regional selections disrupts the utility of the sub pages (ie spamming regional and topic selections).

"I don't see the issue - if someone disagrees with SmashEDO then surely it is their right to be able to protest against it?"

If all they are capable of doing is spreading malicious falsehoods, then there is an issue.

If you want to continue this discussion then email the list  moderation@lists.indymedia.org.uk

That's like asking permission to protest....

So there are editorial guidelines banning it?
Presumably there are guidelines preventing a noise demo.
Stop being sheep. You don't need to ask the mods permission to troll

"Presumably there are guidelines preventing a noise demo.
Stop being sheep. You don't need to ask the mods permission to troll"

Trolls don't go out onto the streets. They don't have the confidence.

As far as trolling the Indymedia newswire is concerned its generally ineffective anyway. The people who read this site already know who they are and know what their causes are about. They aren't the type of people to be dissuaded by junk they read on the internet, especially when all it amounts to is gobbing off for the sake of it.

I'm am a long-time user of IMC and just take trolling for what it is, juvenile stupidity from those who genuinely don't know any better.

I don't consider it to be a form of protest.

I don't think it matters in the comments. Its when articles appear that are deliberate misinformation that it becomes nefarious. That's just poor quality and disruptive.

But whatever it is, the mods look like they are finally on top of it. Trolling is dealt with almost as soon as it appears and that's good. IMCUK is looking good at the moment.

Now, all we need is compelling in depth articles on animal rights, erosion of free spaces, erosion of the right to protest, the role of the MSM, austerity and its imminent collapse, policing, public service funding, the history and heritage of anarchism, the failure of the two party system, the role of democracy in wartime, genuine humanitarian struggle, the state of trans-atlanticism and the EU, the legitimacy of globalisation, the struggle for energy resources, war, conflict and settlement, autonomy then now and in the future, the role of NVDA, the legitimacy of political state violence, the WTO, the IMF, the rise and fall of nationalism, the failure to count war dead in capitalist societies, oil and the Persian gulf, the role of the ICC, justice and international law, corruption and currency speculation, foreign exchange trading and leverage: the UK and US, capital costs and immigration, misinformation and the media, hegemony and political discourse, privacy and centralised policing, Facebook and the pentagon, Google and the DNS, corporate spying as automated process, conspiracy theory and state disruption, biosphere pollution, food production and seed extinction, genetic capitalism and insect extinction etc etc.

These are all the subjects that trolling stops you writing and thinking about. Indymedia is an established site that can guarantee high search engine placements with any story on any subject.

Imagine what you could achieve if you actually started writing instead if pissing your life away on listening to trolls?

I guarantee that when you die, you'll regret that.

There is a theory that it is already happening, for otherwise they would be long gone.

Why?