London demo in support of prisoner John Bowden

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Wake up

04.06.2012 07:34

John Bowden is not a comrade. He is a manipulative psychopath who is using the anarchist movement for his own ends. He belongs in prison.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/05/17/saw-killer-john-bowden-goes-on-run-from-prison-86908-20420344/

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Not on the path

04.06.2012 09:08

John Bowden uses violence to kill people. This is not the anarchist way.

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Thug

04.06.2012 10:03

A violent thug whose history of violence he is consistently blamed on others and society. Anarchist Black Cross must be the most gullible bunch to be taken in by his manipulation.

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What if he gets out

04.06.2012 10:28

Would you be happy to be alone with him ?

just wondering

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the anarchist way

04.06.2012 12:05

the anarchist way is not to INITIATE force, to only use force to repel force being used against us. Only the INITIATION of force is violence. Violence means to violate the Non Aggression Principal, and aggression is to INITIATE force against others.

This is the anarchist way because anarchists do not surrender to hierarchical "authority", in the same way as law abiding citizens of the state, because hierarchical authority is imposed by coercion, which is a breach of the Non Aggression Principal.

No one is defending themselves or their property or anyone else from John Bowden the state is aggressing against him.

Anarchists think!

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@Realist

04.06.2012 13:26

And you have proof of John Bowden using the anarchist movement for the last 20 years?

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i have been alone with him

04.06.2012 16:38

he's a good friend and comrade to me. i trust him entirely. have known him for about 8 years now.

he did an awful thing, 30 years ago, for which he was originally sentenced, and which he has spoken about without excusing in any way.

since then he has remained in prison years and years after his co-accused were released because they'd done their time (even murders get let out eventually - unless they are politically active).

he remains inside because of his political activities, his unwillingness to grass on other comrades, and his constant speaking out against racism and other oppressions within the prison system.

get your facts before you spout nonsense, trolls.

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an eye for an eye makes the world blind

04.06.2012 17:19

If some one dose a terrible thing, they need help and we need help to investigate what led to the crime. We can't stop future crimes without discovering what caused them (there is no such thing as evil demons) Has John dealt with the issues of his past, have we dealt with our issues of Johns past, can he help us to comprehend, and to help others from following the same path?

This sort of stuff doesn't get dealt with in prison

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Fuck off trolls!

04.06.2012 23:10

I see Barnett or some lowlife screw has been spouting shit again. We certainly don't need a lecture on anarchism from you troll! John Bowden has sacrificed years of his life for his political principles. Apart from a handful of friends and comrades, and a few stamps, what has he ever gained from the Anarchist movement? Even the state don't just define John Bowden by the crime he committed 30 years ago (if they did he'd have been free long ago), they define him as a prison militant and a political activist. I've known John 15 years, have spent many, many hours with him, and I regard it as a tragedy he's had to spend a lifetime in jail having to deal with jumped up little shits like Brendan Barnett.

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Tragic

05.06.2012 12:46

That's a sad story bro

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i have been alone with him

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an eye for an eye makes the world blind

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Fuck off trolls!

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