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Fascists played twice at Ye Old Salutation

anon@indymedia.org (a distant friend) | 05.12.2012 06:55

Fascist bands played twice at Ye Old Salutation. Not oi!, really, fascist. Evidence included.

Ye Old Salutation has been hosting fascist gigs for music label Pure Impact Records, which is associated with the former label of fash band Screwdriver, among others, since at least 12.05.2012, most recently last month. Sometimes they dress it up with "leave your politics at the door" crap, but it's all just for show. Ye Old Salutation has also hosted a love music hate racism gig recently, so maybe the owners are unaware. Obviously fascists should not be hosted by any venue, and definitely not in the centre of Nottingham.

There was a recent concert on 10.11.12 with Skinfull and other extreme right bands. There was also an earlier concert on 12.05.12 with known openly neo-Nazi bands Skinfull and Citizen Keyne. The other bands I didn't look into or instantly recognise. Sometimes far right bands play alongside "grey zone" bands (bands that will play with both extreme right and left wing bands), however in this case it doesn't look like any of the bands are even grey zone. As an example, Skinfull have Nazi tattoos, Citizen Keyne have a photo on their main page where one is wearing a "white and proud" shirt.

Source is a German indymedia equivalent. The brief mentions of Nottingham and the flyer images should be self-explanatory:
http://oireszene.blogsport.de/index.php?s=nottingham

Other Links:
Fascist music label puts on event at Ye Olde Salutation, Facebook page with a glance at some lovely attendees
https://www.facebook.com/events/349268145154149/

Flyer for the most recent event in image format
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553809_4535551234970_1454664377_n.jpg

Flyer for the previous event in image format
http://oireszene.blogsport.de/images/thumb-120512_Resistance77CitizenKeyneSkinfullandBlackMarias2.jpg

Please stop this happening again.

Please also note there are upcoming gigs in Bedford (this weekend) and Coventry (13 Jan). Any forwarding of the above info to relevant parties greatly encouraged.

anon@indymedia.org (a distant friend)
http://nottingham.indymedia.org.uk/articles/3469

Comments

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Problem

05.12.2012 11:54

Sure these are the kind of bands - Last Resort etc - who attract a significant Fascist following, but if they are Fascists themselves they certainly havn't got the courage to admit that openly, the gig in question seems to have been advertised on the same web pages as Blood & Honour events (?) but was not a B&H event itself, and no-one's offered evidence of the pub in question being involved in any pattern of Fascist events.

The "smoking gun", evidentially speaking, would not be evidence that this gig took place, but proof of the claims that "Skinfull have Nazi tattoos (and) Citizen Keyne have a photo on their main page where one is wearing a "white and proud" shirt" - if you can provide proof of these claims (URL's and screen-captures of web pages or photos) please do so

Capn Scarlet

some evidence

05.12.2012 17:05

Last Resort pulled out of this gig btw, probably because they realised who is organising it and what sort of bands are playing. And bands in question are well dodgy. Pure Impact records sells nazi bands alongside punk, oi and other music, jusyt have a look at their website and it is all there (even with a separate RAC category). This needs to be highlighted and owner of the pub made aware of what sort of events they are hosting there.

161

Greyzone rubbish

05.12.2012 18:55

Skinfull and Citizen Keyne are not 'openly Nazi'. They're right-leaning, patriotic and not especially clever, but that doesn't make them B&H.

They are however happy to play with bands who are close to the extreme right. For example, Skinfull's facebook page shows gigs in Europe with long-standing German fascist band Endstufe, UK closet-fascist Tattooed Mother Fukcers (ex-singer of English Rose) and Pressure 28 (singer is former BNP/C18 activist Kevin Gough).

Their Belgian record label Pure Impact distributes a lot of openly Nazi bands, and they have put out releases by fascists like Crusade and Blood Red Eagle. Their website is hardly discreet about the fact.

Bands like Skinfull and Citizen Keyne are part of a growing scene of right-wing Oi that isn't fascist or openly racist but is tolerant/indifferent to those who are - 'greyzone' as its become known in Germany. Key bands to watch for in the UK include Code 1, Last Orders, Retaliator, Bakers Dozen, Pressure 28, Insane Society, Streetpunk Drunks, Close Shave, Loyalty etc. These bands are (mostly) not openly fascist but will attract an element of their audience which is. They're also uniformly awful.

By the way, that Oirezine is full of crap - there's some blatantly inaccurate smears of perfectly decent people on there.

Punk and proud

Not illegal

05.12.2012 23:10

No law has been broken. This music and events should not be 'stopped' - otherwise we are living in a fascist state.

freedom to all

False claims

06.12.2012 01:39

Far from being "openly neo-Nazi" (as the post claims) the cover of the Skinfull album "Unity" has an anarchy symbol on the front cover, and far from how "Citizen Keyne have a photo on their main page where one is wearing a "white and proud" shirt" (sic) in fact the T-shirt on the photo on their website says "stand proud"

http://www.citizenkeyne.com/

One Skinfull video shows a cartoon of a white skinhead with his arm around a black skinhead -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p48npB6m56s

Having said that Pure Impact records do sell RAC music (referring to Rock Against Communism, the pseudo-movement co-founded by such people as Nazi singer Ian Stuart Donaldson and BNP leader Nick Griffin) and released the Skinfull LP "Drinking Class Heroes"

http://www.pure-impact.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4085

Clearly these people are arseholes, but if you're going to make accusations that people are "openly neo-Nazi" you need to properly prove it

Lonnie

Correction

06.12.2012 01:42

Far from being "openly neo-Nazi" (as the post claims) the cover of the CITIZEN KEYNE album "Unity" has an anarchy symbol on the front cover........

Sorry, my mistake

More comments

06.12.2012 09:02

There's a thread on the Nottingham website too, including a link to that 18 tattoo:

http://nottingham.indymedia.org/articles/3469

More comments

Wrong again

06.12.2012 23:19

Here's the link for the "Nazi" tattoo, and, FYI y'all, I've posted the actual photo here too -

http://www.skinfullmusic.com/london/05.jpg

The original article said one band member was wearing a "White & Proud" T-shirt, but he wasn't, and the comments are still claiming another band member has Nazi tattoos, but he doesn't

I'm beginning to think this bullshit thread should be taken-down completely

Stop wasting our fucking time

still wankers..

07.12.2012 00:41

It doesn't change the fact they they are fencesitting wankers, recording for a lable happy to sell nazi music and happy to play with other dodgy bands. Fuck 'em!

161

skinfull are right wing nationalist arseholes

07.12.2012 12:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWlSg2fq0lg

Oi scene [ Fence sitters ]

14.12.2012 15:18

How times have changed on the Oi scene , back when i was a lad the bands sang about unemployment and hating the fucking Tories now Oi bands slag off those who haven't a job and told to love Britain or leave it , if they're not right wingers they sure as well sound like it....shit lyrics , shit song shit politics Why not come out of the political closet and play with your chums in B & H and stop sitting on the fence...WANKERS

concerned of gipton

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