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Why we need dissenting voices to ruin the state show.

Fitwatcher | 14.04.2013 14:03

Thatcher has been given a state ceremonial funeral. Our ruling class want to show the world how much she was loved and respected. They desperately don’t want any dissenting voices ruining the show.



Fitwatch truly hopes that they do not get their wish. Thatcher was a prime architect of repressive policing and institutional racism. If we allow such a woman to be honoured in this way, what does that say about us?

Thatcher was a consistent apologist for police violence, racism and corruption:

She colluded in the police cover-up at Hillsborough and the fabrication of witness statements to suggest it was the fans, not the police, who were responsible for the deaths of 96 people.

She defended the infamous ‘sus’ laws that were used to harass, attack and humiliate Afro-Caribbean communities, and militarised the police in response to the 1981 riots. She also happily played up to fascist views, famously promoting the idea that Britain was becoming ‘swamped’ by immigration.

She encouraged the police in their brutal attacks on trade unionists during the many strikes that dominated her period in office, and colluded with the police to tell a pack of lies to the media. Police falsified statements to show that the police charged at Orgreave with batons and horses only after striking miners had attacked the police. They used this lie to try and fit up 93 miners with riot charges.

The Metropolitan police have tried to frighten people away from protesting at Wednesdays funeral with scare stories and threats. They announced they would be monitoring social media, and have refused to rule out pre-emptive arrests. They have now said they will ‘prioritise’ section 5 public order act, which gives them huge discretion to arrest if anyone causes ‘offence’.

They do this because they are scared. They know how much this woman was hated. Lets get to the streets, and tell the world that Thatcher was not worthy of honour.

Weds 17th April
We are everywhere. But especially Westminster, Strand, Fleet Street and St Pauls

Fitwatcher
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14.04.2013 14:47

Another attempt to girder some support for a protest that nobody except a few bitter sadeople on IMC

Yawn


@Yawn

14.04.2013 16:25

Bitter? Bitter?!!!!!

Let us devastate the avenues of the rich


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Yes bitter

14.04.2013 16:55

The damp squib of a party at Trafalgar Square on Saturday showed how little interest there is these rather childish attempts to take pleasure in another human beings death.

agreeing


OK

14.04.2013 18:36

so you won't get over it. ZzZzz....

ludtaotr


@bitter.

14.04.2013 19:39

"The damp squib of a party at Trafalgar Square on Saturday showed how little interest there is these rather childish attempts to take pleasure in another human beings death."

Damp certainly, but very well attended as you, and everybody else, can see quite plainly from the pictures.

And nobody was there to take pleasure in another human beings death, we leave that to the Conservative Party and the Labour Party. After all, they have a fact laden history of doing just that in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those people who went to that "celebration" were passing their verdict on the politician who destroyed millions of lives. Now you, clearly, weren't alive then so fortunately you were spared the worst of it. But many continue to live with the legacy of Thatcher and what she did.

These people at this "celebration" are those who lived through Thatcherism along with those who, like you, are too young to remember, but unlike you, had parents that were wise enough to pass the detail of it all on to their children. So they remember what Thatcher did because those sage words stayed with them and allowed them to see the world in a way that you can't.

If you want to come back from where your ignorance took you, take a look at the detail of the world in which you now live.

The thing you paid for that was definately too expensive. The thing that you should have got for free but had to pay for. The unintelligable contract you had to sign which came back at you to rip you off from some forgotten clause. The letter that you got demanding you pay again for what you already own and have in your living room. The thing you bought and thought you had payed for, and then found you had to pay again and again and again for somebody else's opinion on whether it was safe or not. The third, fourth and fifth person you had to pay before you could finally take ownership of that which you had already bought. The little bit on top, the little bit at the bottom, the little bit extra that you had to pay because it all goes back into the economy.

Those things, the things you can't quite put your finger on but you know its just so wrong...that is Thatcherism.

We saw its face in the cold hard light of day. You see its ghost in the misty murky dim of the night.

Join us, if you please.

anonymous


fake picture

14.04.2013 21:38

an amalgamation of two different pictures

ted


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15.04.2013 08:09

Five hours in to what must rank as the most pointless political assembly ever staged in this great crucible of protest, it was time for the big moment – the torching of the Thatcher effigy. And then – oops. Just one problem, comrades. The lady was not for burning.
The downpour had soaked the giant papier-mâché puppet and its mop of orange hair (fashioned from a bundle of irredeemably bourgeois Sainsbury’s plastic bags).
Urged on by choruses of ‘Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. Dead! Dead! Dead!’, the executioners did their best. After about quarter of an hour, a few Sainsbury’s bags started to smoulder and then fizzled out.

‘F****** bitch,’ growled a youth in combat trousers and ginger dreadlocks who can hardly have been out of nappies when Margaret Thatcher left Downing Street. Typical. You go to all the trouble of laying on a party and the guest of honour doesn’t even have the common courtesy to ignite.
In the end, the mob lost patience. They trampled their disobliging effigy to a squelching pulp and went back to dancing and drinking into the early hours of yesterday.

Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead fails to hit number one in singles chart but BBC still plays offending lyrics
In recent days, people of every age, background and political allegiance have been unpleasantly surprised by some of the reactions to the death of Lady Thatcher. This weekend’s ‘Thatcher Death Party’ in London’s Trafalgar Square was the worst yet.

Youngsters brought to the 'death party' were heard chanting anti-Thatcher songs
Various hard-Left inadequates had been big-talking about it for more than a decade, planning a fiesta of vengeance on the first Saturday after her death, tinged with the promise of a re-run of the poll tax riot which helped precipitate her resignation.
The police weren’t taking any chances, with convoys of minibuses parked in the backstreets. Wisely, though, commanding officers had given the order for flat hats, not helmets. You could sense the disappointment among the element in the crowd who were itching for a spot of confrontation.
Busybodies in high-vis jackets marked ‘Legal Observer’ rushed around in search of an atrocity, frantically scribbling police numbers on clipboards. The cops stood back with the patronising insouciance of teachers at a school disco. Party poopers!
Occasionally, there was a scuffle. One brave class warrior, face shielded by a scarf, kept popping out from behind his mates and kicking one police officer on the backside. Finally, the policeman turned round, pointed and shouted: ‘Stop kicking me!’
He did. Compared to the poll tax mayhem of 1990, this was handbags. By close of play, 16 arrests had been reported.
The BBC put the numbers in attendance at 3,000, ITV and Sky less than half that. If you included the film crews, photographers, bloggers, Saturday night passers-by, baffled tourists and large numbers of London University students having a laugh – ‘Let’s start a conga!’ bawled one plummy voice – then the whole lot must indeed have been in the low thousands.
The genuine partygoers – a thousand max – seemed to split evenly between those wanting a party and those wanting to engage in earnest denunciation of the She-Lucifer of Grantham.
A handful had gathered under a National Union of Mineworkers banner, retelling war stories from the Eighties. But this was largely a gathering of what might be called Thatcher’s children.
The age span of those arrested was 18 to 44. As far as this lot were concerned, the ‘witch’ can be blamed for pretty much anything unpleasant over the past 30 years or so.

Sick celebration: The drinking and dancing went on until the early hours
‘Look at the disgusting poverty around us,’ bawled Jess Bailey, dangling a Thatcher doll from a noose. ‘I can’t get a decent home for my family because of her.’ Ms Bailey said she had been eight when Mrs Thatcher came to power and ‘destroyed my life’.
As she spoke, a well-refreshed male friend started doing something disgusting to the doll. ‘You should show some respect for the dead,’ said a middle-aged tourist with a Spanish accent, finally unable to contain his shock.
‘She never showed no respect to me,’ spluttered a furious Ms Bailey, appalled anyone should be speaking good of the dead.
Up on the balcony of the National Gallery, a not wholly sober lady in a green ballgown teased police by dancing on the outside of the railings. Suddenly, insanely, she dived into the crowd from 20ft up. Fortunately, they caught her.
She turned out to be 39-year-old harpist Rosie Nobbs. Explaining her antipathy, she said: ‘I was a milk monitor and thought it was my fault that the milk stopped coming. I had a responsibility and she took it away from me.

Revellers taunted police officers and a total of 16 arrests were made at the party
'I haven’t taken any work seriously since.’ Fascinating. Mrs Thatcher (then Education Secretary) cut the school milk quota in 1971 – three years before Ms Nobbs was born.
One man had not only brought along a delightful four-year-old called Jack, but trained him to say: ‘Thatcher’s dead.’ Come 11pm, I spotted the poor little chap on the shoulders of a gyrating man (Dad, one hopes) with a beer in one hand and fag in the other. He’ll probably grow up to be a chartered accountant.
Behind the contrived party atmosphere, though, ran a deep streak of menace. A fresh-faced young man in a donkey jacket interrogated photographers and even people texting in case they were ‘Daily Mail scum’.

Miners: Protestors hold a flag of the 'North East Area National Union of Mineworkers' during the party
There was a vocal Irish republican element too, chanting a Bobby Sands-related repertoire: ‘One-nil to the IRA!’ and so on.
I saw a rather naïve middle-aged gent trying to film the crowd on a small camera from beneath a Union Jack umbrella.
A hard-faced man in an Ireland football shirt calmly walked up behind him and started ripping his umbrella apart. When the man objected, the brolly-shredder replied darkly: ‘We’ll have none of that here.’
Some had come armed with bottles of champagne, spraying it Formula One-style for the benefit of the television crews – true champagne socialists.
‘I’ve never liked champagne but I’ve been drinking it for days,’ joked an ex-miner from Easington.
The carpet of litter and broken glass by the end suggested that most had been drinking beer, though a rich pong of cannabis hung over the square all evening.
But even the angriest turbo-Trot would have to admit that it was a pretty dreary party. Raging against a dead octogenarian in the rain was never really going to rival Mardi Gras for carnival atmosphere.
At one point, I found myself alongside Romany Blythe, the purple-haired teacher who hit the headlines last week for creating a ‘Witch Is Dead’ website and comparing Lady Thatcher to Hitler.
‘They put me on the front of the Sun and I’ve had to take down my Facebook page,’ she moaned to anyone who would listen. Oh, the perils of celebrity.
Perhaps this unedifying little quasi-demo, this dismal venting of spleen, will have served as a pressure valve ahead of Wednesday’s funeral.
No doubt some of Lady Thatcher’s friends and admirers will be appalled that such an event could even be considered, let alone staged, in the heart of the capital. But it is worth making a counter-argument: with enemies like this, could you ever be short of friends?

Mandy


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@ted = troll

15.04.2013 12:29

nice try, I believe that picture was from Orgreave during the Miners strike, it was taken I believe well before personal computers/internet were introduced to the public domain, it is an original, you are not.

Fred


Not a fake picture

15.04.2013 18:01

It's not a fake picture, in fact it's one of the most famous pieces of British photojournalism from the postwar period. Here's an entire BBC News article about that photo -

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/articles/2009/03/02/lesley_boulton_orgreave_photo_feature.shtml

(great to see the trolls being reduced to being so monosyllabic and telling such blatant lies)

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haha

15.04.2013 20:06

*sigh*

i didn't say it was photoshopped

i said it was fake.as in staged. This was shown a long time ago. The saddle on the horses is the wrong type that isn't used by police of that period, and the bit is a pelham bit which also wasn't used on police horses due to potential injury is the rider was thrown

do some research before trying to be smart arses

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@ted - You're working within a cycle

15.04.2013 22:20

that you don't understand, yet you no doubt feel the pleasure of clever confrontation, mop up now. The photograph in question has been proven twice to be original, you sir, have been proven twice to be nothing but a bullshitting scumbag.

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