Yes! At last we have won the war.... I think I saw Lou Reed as well!

my TV guide and see if channel 4 making any series it...

I would wager that 90% of these protestors have never held down a full time job. They are mainly students and the professional activists who live on the dole.

Why should anyone take them seriously, they have little or no life experience and working class people who are the real victims look at these State subsidised Students and bums with contempt.

WORKING CLASS REVOLUTION NOW!!

 http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/06/anonymous-clash-police-buckingham-palace-london

Ah yes, trolls gifted with the power of X-ray vision!!!!!! Not only can these trolls now see through masks they can also determine the lifestyles as well as identities of all these protestors

FACT - when protestors are ordinary people they're dismissed as lay-abouts, when they're successful or even celebrities they're dismissed as egotists. It's obvious that people who have less commitments tend to be over-represented on week-day protests (it ain't rocket science), it's also well-known the Anonymous movement contains a much higher-than-average proportion of IT professionals

If nothing else, thanks for the extra publicity ;)

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Nice one to those who turned out but fuck the millionaire celebrity adoration. The only publicity is for the likes of Brand himself, self serving ass!

Reach millions more people

NONE

try to keep up ;)

.... have a nice day

Wow, that's amazing, I never realised that posting the words "WORKING CLASS REVOLUTION NOW" on Indymedia was going to magically conjure world-wide proletarian revolution, but unfortunately this thread isn't about what YOU personally want Barry, in your political fantasy world, it's about what actually happened last night.

Message for Sherlock - we live in a world where, because of the proliferation of zero-hours contracts, serial internships, poor union representation and exploitative employment practices, hundreds of millions of working-class people struggle to hold down a full time-job. The only people who treat the victims of capitalism with the level of contempt that you express are the capitalists... and you... you cunt

Let's get this straight, it's the oldest cop / fash / right-wing trick in the book - bleat "workerist" bollocks to try to set radical demonstrators against each other. If people like you were for real you'd use this opportunity to post comments about the working-class students who took to protest after their EMA was axed mid-course by the Coalition government (many of whom were on the demos last night), or about the working-class pensioners who'll be killed by the energy companies this winter, but, no, you're more interested in posting divisive comments about people who actually bothered

Here's a deal? You go away and prove your case by successfully agitating for working class revolution, and maybe work so hard on that project that you find you've no time left for posting divisive bullshit on this forum, perhaps?!

You are extreemely naive and inexperieced or you live in cloud cuckoo land!

Well Barry, you havn't answered a single one of the points that were leveled against your comments, but, did last night change things? At the very least it changed the fact that vast media time and mass-communications resources, which would otherwise have been devoted to "lead" stories like the open-casting for the next Star Wars movie, were instead devoted to public protests against State spying, against NHS privatisation and against austerity.

As for Russell Brand, to be fair, love him or loathe him, he was photographed attending (in fact jumping on top of a police van at) Mayday demos before he got famous, he did get millions of people to watch his programme ripping the piss out of the BNP (years before he joined yesterday's demo), he was seen predicting revolution by millions of viewers on Newsnight recently, and (according to The Independent) the You Tube of the Newsnight interview's had over 7 million hits..... as opposed to the number of people who flood-in to act upon your genius-level totally-non-cloud-cuckoo pronouncements about how you'd really much rather have your personally-preferred style of currently non-existent revolution?! Right?!

Russell Brand may be a millionaire but Caroline Lucas isn't a revolutionary. Why are you lying? And what does "Not sure about Thomas. I will have to check my TV guide and see if channel 4 making any series it" (sic) actually mean?

will effect change. Well sorry to burst your bubble but it won't change a fucking thing. Most people will be stuck to their reality tv or voting for their x fucker fave about to be millionaire celebrity who will tweet their every shit to the millions of sheeple and the sheeple care much more for that shit than any small demo and lets not pretend any different. I have been there at demos for decades and have not given up but am working at different approaches to challenging this shit..

Why are you such a dick?

Sod off!

Always that same old moan 'I bet none of them have ever had a real job'
If you can't say anything productive, don't say anything.

What it means is that 90% of the protestors know f**k all about what life is like in the real world and that probably includes yourself.

Million Masks was lead item on RT for over 24 hours. "RT's signal is carried by 22 satellites and over 230 operators, which allows some 630 million people to watch the channel in more than 100 countries. RT America is available to 85 million people in the United States. In 2011 it was the second most-watched foreign news channel in the USA after BBC World News. In 2012 it was the number one foreign station in five USA urban areas. In 2013 RT has become the first TV news channel in history to reach 1 billion views on YouTube. According to the Broadcasters Audience Research Board between 2.25 million to 2.5 million Britons tuned their televisions to RT during the second half of 2012. It is the most popular news channel in Britain after the BBC and Sky."

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_today -

Russell Brand on Newsnight, nearly 9 million hits, over 80,000 thumbs up -

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk

Those millions exist in the real world, btw

..and that is exactly all that those 80,000 will do. Get real ffs....

It's consistently the most successful radical PR stunts that attract the most clueless trolls to try and use comments posted on Indymedia to undermine radical protests. Anyway ....

@ Celebrity lover - so, anyone who points out you were lying to describe Caroline Lucas as a "revolutionary" is a "dick" are they? Get a life!

@ Barry Cade - you "think" that I "assume that corporate media coverage will effect change"?! It's you that's doing the assuming pal, and it's the fact that (as you say) "most people will be stuck to their reality tv" etc which makes successful publicity stunts like Anonymous demos relevant, Sherlock. As for your contempt for working-class people, it's you who describe the people as "sheeple" - QED. Far be it from me to give right-wing trolls potentially useful advice, but if you're going to pretend to be a genuine radical, try and disguise your hatred for ordinary people you pointless fuck

@ Reality Check - you speculate that "90% of the protestors know f**k all about what life is like in the real world" on the basis of WHAT evidence (other than your X-ray powers)? Meanwhile the actual reality out there is that in the real-world hundreds of millions of working-class people struggle to even aspire to secure full-time employment, but obviously they don't count?

insulting x factor and reality tv addicts.. and since when were Anonymous demos attended by the working class?
You mate are the middle class clueless ass unable to tell left wing from right wing. Go back to your tv, jeremy kyle is on soon...

I'm surprised at the criticism that i hear from activists about Russell brand at that event, he appeals to normal people, he cares about the ills of the world.

We need the people who read the sun or heat magazine to see what's really going on in the world, and Russell subtle comments on TV/twitter are the sort of thing that works, of course most of the elitist non hierarchal vegan anarcho fascist won't approve unless the revolution meets they're own goals, fuck them.

"Russell's subtle comments on TV/twitter are the sort of thing that works"!

Could you explain that statement, show some examples and share with us how exactly it works!!

 https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/occupythebbc


Several years ago, I heard of a group of internet pranksters who were annoying the Church of Scientology, 4 chan/Anonymous we're regularly picketing the church's bookshops in London, the stories of direct action I heard were hilarious, through connected friends... 'One bloke ran into a Scientology bookshop and rubbed his fresh seamen over several books before running off', abusive bizarre phone calls, pizza deliveries and demos which featured non stop Rick Ashley, on a set of speakers, a hoard of goth teens wearing anime cosplay outfits, when I said "why target Scientology?" One of them replied "cause it's a laugh..."
They're attitude was so out of this world, even myself a rowdy bastard found it hard to understand.

gradually in 2010 with the student movement in full swing anonymous took different direction towards government, backed with Charlie Veitch etc... I liked this as I was aware of the potential of Anonymous, and in my wrecking crew there were two lads we took on who were previously picketing Scientology.
Eventually Occupy sprung up, whilst most anarchos in the UK were lying low due to an attempted revolution in Tottenham that Summer, it was a perfect time to see a new generation spring up with they're own interpretation of the rules.

However not wanting to sound rude, I feel Occupy sucked the rowdiness out of the UK activist scene, Occupy London did little to shut the city down, it just made a joke out of a movement, why do we actually have to camp out in the city?
Democracy Village in parliament square in 2010 proved that all those camp sites do is make you dependant on the nearest Starbucks toilet.

Why waste all of your resources building a shanty town outside St. Paul's?
I won't talk about the media assault or undercover cops or complete lawless of the site. Or the naive attitude of the people...

Your surrounded by CCTV, any activist who set foot in there would of had they're photo taken, and any wifi signals would of been scrutinised, your basically painted a massive red target for Special Branch and you've said "come and get it"...

and I'm sure they have taken it.

Call me old fashioned, but we're is the spontaneous attitude?

What's wrong with building up a good 12 volt car battery sound system and playing some noisy music and inviting the youth of London to a 'careers day' in the city?

Like Vice magazine said, the mask you insist on wearing says your a group of graphic novel enthusiasts who don't trust the real world.

Every event you organise someone gets a lightbulb idea of camping out for 24 hours, YAWN.

Instead of 24 hours with a guaranteed warm police cell waiting, why not try to get the protest done in a shorter amount of time... Like 2 hours?

Make a good video, one which will go viral.
do you really have to use the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack for every video?
Why not drop a bit of UK Bass into the video, emphasise a few snippets of what Russel Brand said, and try to make the video look like something the kids are going to be interested in...
Or that 'fuck the Tories' song which was on Twitter last week...

On the morning of the day, a few small groups could visit the main media offices, like BskyB at Victoria, ItN at Southbank and do some small protests, then the main group meeting at Portland street.
We meet at Portland Street outside the BBC office, chuck a few paint bombs then move on, highly mobile, leaderless, come up with some sort of game, capture the flag...

 http://capturetheflaglondon.blogspot.com

Imagine 5000 masked up teenagers running around Oxford street, the media would be all over it, or a game of football in Oxford circus, no goal posts, 17 footballs, with a sound system in the background, the cops would be spread out allover the Westend as the mob pickets shops over Workfare/UK Uncut or an army recruitment office, and brakes up into smaller bands, maybe a few bin bags are dumped in the road to slow the flow of traffic? It's a Saturday, tourists, Londoners and pickpockets are the audience, make a real street theatre.
Bring traffic to a standstill all over the centre of London

Invite anti war groups, and even the Swp, and the unions who still have backbone.

My favourite demos in London are always ones away from Whitehall and the City, and in places where normal people are, Hackney, Brixton, the West-end, lots of sprinting down backstreets...


Of course if Anonymous published an official press release the news room editors would have a chance to decide if it's a story, tell them Russel Brand is coming...

One final idea for Anonymous, before the big event each day work out where the day's media scrum is in London, and go there and interrupt live news report, always a laugh, do that to the Sky News , BBC, ItN crews who cover events in London, and post your results online...

See you in the streets,

Please share this on any blogs/social media you like....

Because Russel has a voice and is a gifted speaker, he appeals to people with his sense of humour, but then occasional says thing which strike a chord with normal pissed off people (the mythological 99 percent).

Like most people he ain't perfect, but he cares about the world.

I suppose it depends on your concept of decent people and their behaviour. He is a multi multi millionaire with a jetset lifestyle who occasionally purports to being interested in working class/society issues whilst he jetts off to LA to his hollywood chums where he lives part of the week . 'Well done to the working class lad done good' some may say, I say fuck your selfserving ego trip and put your millions where your so called concern is and then we will see how real you are. He is rich and has power in his fame. He needs to put his head above the parapet alot highter to be known as anything other than a selfserving egotistical wanker. But I am just a working class pleb, maybe I should aspire to be like him!?

but most people don't give a flying fuck about the world. You have a naive immature idea about the fucked up situation we find our selves in and that is said with no disrespect meant.

I have a naive frame of mind?

I'm doing my bit to try to contribute to the movement, I'm in a shitty little council flat working two different part time jobs with zero job security, my flat is fucking freezing, I'm wearing jumper, I'm listening to LBC or Radio 4.
My partner who earns less than me, and is dependant on me, recently they are telling me I have no ambition in life.
We've got problems with the housing benefit, problems with the UKBA, they're ain't no one in the UK really defending the poor or me!

Like I said before about the box ticking 'vegan', 'non hierarchal' , vanguard activists it a group of selfish people who simply want to control others and suck the life out of the movement.

Maybe I need to go back to the Anarchist Bookfare and confess my sins and beg for acceptance, and pick up a million other pamphlets, or Maybe I should give up activism for good and do anything to get rich.

On the night of that Million Mask March, I had-to work as an events crew member, supposed to finish at 11 but the VIP event went on late, and I didn't finish packing up till 2am, and I wasn't home until 3:30am. I only get paid for the hours I work, if I don't like it, it's London, it's multicultural, there are a million other desperate people who will do it.

but at least Russel was there, and he wanted to try to get other people to participate.

Do remember when he showed up at at the G20 in London, the journalists were really at his throat. He has opinions and it's democracy which you cherish so much which he is exercising.

I work two part time jobs, I got rent /housing benefit problems, my partner has visa problems, I'm being told by my family I have no ambition, I can afford to heat my shifty flat.
Everyone I work with tells me how pissed off they are with the government, but if I mention protests they just don't get it.
It's something that's been programmed out of them.
You might of guessed it I am part of the mythological 99 percent, the working class, lower income etc.

These people however chat at work about Russels comments, they have all seen the newsnight video, and they all agree with it.

He does more for defending the poor than the Anarchist Bookfare or Occupy London could ever do cause he has got that issue into peoples living rooms...
He ain't a box ticking anarchist, but he has his opinions, and it's not a dictatorship. Good luck to him.

almost like your pretending to be working classand opressed with all your working class mates watching newsnight and Russsel Bland. The multi millionaire boy does more for poverty that all anarchists... what a childish comment. Think kid, before you speak. What has man done for poverty? I know lots of folk who attend the bookfair who have spent their lives fighting injustice and poverty and you have the balls to say that this prick has done more. You clueless middle class shit!

The truth is you don't know anything about my life experience and if you did you would probably be extremely shocked.
In my experience people who go around preaching about Real Life usually don't know a bean about it.

Feel free to have the last word on this. I have things to do.

I qualify as working class cause if I stop working, I will quickly become homeless, I don't waste my time pretending to be working class by wearing a pair of boots and a Harrington jacket, like a lot of worker ist fake anarchos who pose at antifa benefits...

Infact I think indymedia and occupy are a waste of time, cause let's face it they ain't changing nothing...

Bye...

No Anonymous protestors are working-class because....? Because YOU SAY SO? Yeah, right! You've repeatedly proven you can't answer ANY of the points that have been raised against you, yet you return to this thread, over and over, repeating the same scurrilous, disruptive and incoherent accusations, backed-up by zero evidence. You claim to want working-class revolution but show utter contempt for the working-class

We can measure the success of Anonymous actions in the desperation of the right-wing trolls

 https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/11/513582.html?c=on