isn't the PGA already dead as not working?
imho it doesn't work if it isn't based on practical tasks, but on ideological theoreties.
As well as it doesn't work if the local are constantly overruled or ignored by the PGA elite.
A bit of a pity though because from afar it seemed to be a rather good project at the start.
Now there does not seem that there is anything to save.
Just asking, if there are the same pple of the UK PGA elite going as before.

How lucky for us that the PGA does not claim the G8 in Gleneagles for itself - probably not regarded as victorious enough.
Good their banner was nicked though, showed that hostile take-overs in the activist scene are not welcome in Scotland.

I think that the WOMBLES are also a PGA info-point as well, and also in London.

Nobby -- what are you on? You comment on people doing PGA stuff by telling them that they ought to be dead and/or engaging in some kind of elitist power play. Are you part of some group that is hostile to the PGA network?

The PGA is not dead, nor is it an elite, there is a meeting hosted by indian farmers in Haridwar, India in Oct, and a group of grass-roots activists in Nepal.

These initiatives are not bullshit, they are proper, get a grip, not everything is as shit as you think it is.

Solidarity,

Big up to PGA...and beware internet psyops.

Actually, I haven't seen any solidarity at all from the PGA when the Nepal monarch grabbed power and put all dissidents in prison.
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/world/2005/02/304797.html

Isn't it that the PGA oppresses all criticism, so that the only possibility left is to take you into account on lovely open publishing websites like Indymedia?

If PGA would be about global solidarity, it would do something practical, like the Chiapas Solidarity does, or the Argentina solidarity:
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/world/2004/08/296846.html

But PGA is all empty talk with nothing substantial behind its mask of exotic sponsored activist holidays..

...and 'Nobby' hides behind a silly name and posts criticisms without getting of his arse...if you hate PGA so much, why not get off your arse and do something useful instead eh? Personal grudge or getting paid to put this stuff out. how boring.

I'ts a bit strage for 'nobby' to ask PGA to do something for Nepal. If s/he knew anything about the PGA, s/he would know that it is a network, a meeting place for different social movements, rather than some anarcho version of International Rescue. There are groups that use PGA in Nepal, and I bet they're 'doing something' about the king's suppression of democracy. In fact, until I checked out the PGA website, I didn't know that there were any social movements in Nepal apart from the Maoists.

If people want to help grassroots groups in Nepa, I suggest they check out the All Nepal Peasants' Association (ANPA) and ask them what kind of support they'd like.

Prem Dangal
Secretary General
All Nepal Peasants Association (ANPA)
PO Box: 547, Lalitpur, Nepal,
Tel: 977 1 548971
Email:  anpa@mail.com.np or  rsn@ntc.net.np

he PGA is merely a global network of like minded grassroots groups, it is not an organisation in itself, it can only die when all the groups that have decided to use it's hallmarks decide to take a different route, like that of the WSF/ESF or what 'nobby' probably wants, to separate off into individual and isolated groups happy to carry on in solitude.

The PGA does have conferences, globally, and regionally, where many groups can send delegates to spread information of their latest campaign, network and be inspired. The conference itself does not claim to speak on anyones behalf but as a network, groups involved have been involved in many of the Global actions of the past 7 years. The Global Street Party in 98, The Carnival Against Capital in 99, Seattle, Quebec, Genoa etc along with many other networks these action grew and ideas spread.

There is no dominating committee, just rotating conveners that attempt to keep communication flowing, and a network of supporters that translate and help logistically. Of course for cynics like 'nobby' it is easy to complain, try and undermine what others do, and claim you are doing it for the greater good of 'the movement', your wisdom being of course greater than everyone else. But for some reason people are still ignoring you, they have listened to your rants and decided they are just a bit sad, and are able to make up their own minds.

Open to any group to participate who support the 'hallmarks' (see www.agp.org), it is hard to say the PGA is 'not working', new groups adopt the hallmarks all the time, yes, including the dissent network, this does not mean they that an 'elite' takes them over as 'nobby' claims, it means they want to work locally but link globally to a growing movement of campaigns and active anti-capitalists, people who will support them in solidarity and respect.

Many of the active groups in the UK are involved in some way in this network, some wanting to go to global or regional meetings some as info points at a local level - each to their own.