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Apologia of barbarity from the left intellectuals.

Dm. Bulatov. | 16.11.2005 01:53 | Analysis | Repression | Social Struggles

“The state is a coldest of all monsters“
Fr. Nietzsche.
The publication on the Internet the staff of a public execution of criminals in the Peoples Republic of China has caused ambiguous comments from readers.

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“The state is a coldest of all monsters“
Fr. Nietzsche.

The publication on the Internet the staff of a public execution of criminals in the Peoples Republic of China has caused ambiguous comments from readers. Some people support this disgusting method of punishment, others fairly consider its as deeply vicious and the certificate perversity of Chinese society. We know, that in China there is such barefaced barbarity. But for us was unexpected, that the known "left" resource - the central site of the most powerful party of the country - KPRF.ru , has published a note in which actually justifies this monstrous action.

In the justification of punishment authors give some reasons. Historical arguments – the opium dependence of Chineses provoked by foreign colonizers, psychological arguments – “It is an attempt to prevent the future crimes by showing horror of punishment “. At lasts a usual vulgar method of the justification of the state cruelty by means of attraction attention to depth of fault of the criminal. But for what all this arguments? What is the maximum justification of cruelty for authors of site Forum.msk? They unambiguously declare, that as such justification for them “ interests of statehood ” serve. They sacrifice humanity and progress of human culture for “great state“ idol. They secretly dream of empire and intimidate the audience made a fool by great-power education: “It needs to be shown. It is necessary to look at it. Because if with us there will be something similar to volume that has occured to China more hundred years ago, we will not rise any more...”

Following this reason, left intellectuals caring of “public morals“ and majestic interests reproduce on the site some stages of cruelty, thus at all not having supplied their any prevention.

Needless to say, that masking under a mask "left" journalists do not trouble themselves even with a hint on the marxist approach to this problem. In fact they risk to be not understood “a wide reader's audience “, simply speaking to spoil themselves political business, to lose in “the political market “ their capitalization.

We are not political businessmen, but Marxists. And it is necessary for us to bring an attention to the question on China precisely and clearly. Not fruitless conversations on great culture and great statehood, but essence of the class nature of the Peoples Republic of China – here that for us a primary factor. And for all consecutive Marxists it is obvious, that over China is dominated with economic environments of capitalism above that the political superstructure in the form of a totalitarian bureaucratic despotism towers. Therefore we do not admire, but we convict and we shall convict this vicious system. Besides danger consists that China in the today's world is aggressive imperialistic power. “The median empire“ rather resembles the Second Reich. However fruits of policy Wilhelm II can seem children's game in comparison with results of claims Peking Governors on world supremacy.

The position of authors Forum.msk is completely opposite to ours also because it, as well as many displays of depressive culture of rotting capitalism, goes counter with the main string of progress of human culture. In the Europe we had public executions – quarterings, burnings on a fire, etc only two or three centuries ago too. But the legal method of intimidation never was effective way of struggle against criminality. Roots of criminality - in the essence of a class society. Progress of a civilization has appreciably finished with this barbarity – in many countries not only public punishment, but also the death penalty is not supposed by the law. Great achievement of a western civilization is such change of public consciousness that guarantees that intimidation will cause more likely de-legitimate the state applying it as punishment and prevention of criminality. However a part of the society - enraged for horrors of capitalism petty bourgeoises and lumpens sing of cruelty and violence. We should make everything to protect from them culture. We should make everything that the world has not fallen in abyss of new barbarity!

Dm. Bulatov.

Dm. Bulatov.
- Homepage: http://www.aurora1917.org/eng/main.php

Comments

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timing

16.11.2005 04:46

Hey fella, you are a little too early! Blair's plans to wage war with China are still somewhat distant, and will need to follow many other conflicts. Therefore you might wish to recheck your timetable, and recall that now is the time for anti-Iranian comment.

For the rest, anyone who REALLY wanted to comment on the rotten behaviour of a state over issues of crime and punishment would talk about the US first, second, and third.

twilight


Poor understanding

16.11.2005 06:12

How depressingly indicative of the poor levels of understanding from so many Indymedia posters. An open debate about the behaviour of the Chinese government - even from a left perspective - is condemned as serving the purposes of the Washington government. From there it is only a short step to the paranoid thinking that any discussion of human rights abuses elsewhere is capitalist propoganda. Such reflexive thinking used to be confined to the handful of ultra-Stalinist groups still functioning, Harpal Brar's CPGB(M-L)for example, or the New Communist Party (NCP). We're seeing it increasingly on Indymedia, however, which is curious, as self-criticism is supposed to be a mainstay of progressive politics. For the poster responsible for the cheap sarcasm though, all manner of bizarre feats of logic are possible. Shame really, as people suffering from exploitation deserve so much better.

Caz


Yes really

16.11.2005 10:54

yes rather like the meaning of life scene in the restuarant where you get a list of possible topics to discuss.
The cold war was supposed to have been played out by two super powers although one was always way ahead of the other and simply brought the smaller one when time was right.
China will not be so easy to buy but there are always going to be more than one way to skin the cat, come on Twilight surely you can do BETTER than that. BLIAR and BOOSH start a WAR with the TWIDDLY WINKS
they will be LUCKY to get their ARSES out of IRAQ in one piece and if they do manage to get the WAR with IRAN of the drawing board they could already be BUGGERED on that one.
I would say that there is a good chance that the chinese HORDES will be sweeping across EUROPE in the not too distant FUTURE so at least let us read up on what we are likely to be in for apart from the CHINESE take aways, they are already taking over the TEXTILE industries in such places as Prato Italy and are very likely to just over run us on all manufacturing industries with out a SHOT being fiired.
IMC radicals will be first on the list for DONATING their ORGANS.

Don't jump outta yer pram just taking the piss and agree with a LOT of what you say, why don't you post some artiicles of your own ? instead of just commenting on other peoples ??

conspiracy Charlie


Missing the point

16.11.2005 14:45

Twilight may not have have noticed the recent second visit to Britain of the Chinese Premier in the past 6 years. Not likely that Blair will be having a war with them.

If anything, the Mongol hordes will over-run us in about 25 years as the most powerful capitalist economy the world has ever seen.

Brutus


Figures

16.11.2005 15:05

"For the rest, anyone who REALLY wanted to comment on the rotten behaviour of a state over issues of crime and punishment would talk about the US first, second, and third."

State executions (total in 2004)

1 China 3,400*

2 Iran 159*

3 Vietnam 64*

4 United States 59*

5 Saudi Arabia 33*

6 Pakistan 15*

7 Kuwait 9*

8 Bangladesh 7*

9= Egypt 6*

= Singapore 6*

= Yemen 6*

*Minimum

FTB


PS

16.11.2005 15:18

To account for different populations, the top five when re-jigged by number of citizens is:

1. CHINA - one execution for every 384,000 people
2. IRAN - one for every 427,785
3. SAUDI ARABIA - one for every 800,533
4. VIETNAM - one for every 1,305,243
5. USA - one for every 5,012,442

So, last year China slaughtered at least one in every 384,000 of its own people in the name of law and order. And yet we need to tackle the USA's crime and punishment system first?

FTB


Well said FTB

16.11.2005 16:55

"Don't you know that the USA is the most evil, corrupt, warmongering fascist state in the entire universe????? It's soooo evil (etc) that no other country comes close to being as evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Apart from Israel of course, which amounts to the same thing, as Israel (aka "The Jews") controls the USA.... blah blah blah......"

Well that's what it says in my Welcome to Indymedia factsheet anyroad... ;-)

Pro-Freedom


Eat my bombs

16.11.2005 19:49

The USA has bombed the following countries since 1945;

China (1945-46&1950-53)

Korea (1950-53)

Guatemala (1954 &1960)

Indonesia (1958)

Cuba (1959 &60)

Congo (1964)

Peru (1965)

Laos (1964-73)

Vietnam(1961-73)

Grenada(1983)

Libya(1986)

El Salvador& Nicaragua( all of the 1980's)

Panama (1989)

Iraq(1991&2003)

Sudan (1998)

Afghanistan(1998*2001)

Yugoslavia(1999)

Killing mucho millions of chinks, rag heads, spicks and commies.

Ernesto Serramos


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